Talk:State Highway 1 (New Zealand)

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Map

Since SH 1 now starts at Cape Reinga, the map needs modifying to show this extension - but that's beyond my capabilities. Birdhurst 20:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK - I'll have a look at it (I made the original map, so it shouldn't be much work. :) Grutness...wha? 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SH78 junction?

The SH78 junction at Timaru should be included in the SH1S junction list (although SH78 only goes until the Marine Parade intersection.) Also, remove the SH70, SH72, and SH92 junctions (as they are no longer highways) and put down the SH93 and SH98 junctions. Scott Gall 04:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough - I was working from an old map when I made that sidebar. Grutness...wha? 04:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Orewa update?

SH1 no longer travels through the town of Orewa since the tolled northern gateway opened in Jan 2009. Perhaps the article should be updated to reflect this change?

210.246.36.71 (talk) 05:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

busiest section of road

According to http://www.transit.govt.nz/about/faqs.jsp#4 SH1 just south of auckland is busier than spaghetti junction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.38.153 (talk) 07:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How many lanes ?

"At Bombay, SH 1 becomes the Waikato Expressway, a four-lane dual-carriageway expressway. The expressway takes the highway down the Bombay Hills to Mercer, where SH 1 meets the Waikato River which it follows for the next 130 km. The Waikato Expressway temporarily ends at Longswamp and becomes a three-laned dual carriageway,"

Is it possible to have a three-lane dual carriageway ? How would you pass a tractor ? Does this mean six lanes ?Eregli bob (talk) 06:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's total lanes - a four lane dual carriageway has two lanes in each direction; a three lane dual carriageway has two in one direction and one in the other - the number of lanes alternate every few kilometres. And they have hard shoulders so slow vehicles can pull over to allow vehicles to pass. Lcmortensen (mailbox) 08:41, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

I've dropped the assessment back to C. The problem is that the article's largely uncited. The junctions list should also be merged back into the main article. --Rs chen 7754 22:52, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Junction List

I would support moving the junction list back into the main article; it seems pointless to have it in a separate article. I would like to know the opinions of other editors on this.Videomaniac29 (talk) 08:37, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Virtually all the other road articles worldwide have the junction list in the same article. --Rs chen 7754 08:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A junction list is one of the things required for a road-article to get a B rating, so moving it back is definitely in the best interests of the article.Videomaniac29 (talk) 04:16, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No one has opposed the move so I have carried it out. Once a few more references have been added, and a few sections cleaned up a little bit, this should be eligible for a B rating.Videomaniac29 (talk) 08:10, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

History

Where applicable, each highway article should have a history section.^[1] Apart from history in the linked Great South Rd article, the only history in this article is scattered around. Papers Past has lots of information about building, bridging, metalling and sealing of parts of SH1. For example, Auckland to Rotorua was almost completely sealed by 1938.^[2] Should the current items of history be gathered together under a new History heading, or, in view of the length of this article, should it form a separate main article? Johnragla (talk) 04:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

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^ "LOCAL AND GENERAL (New Zealand Herald, 1938-09-23)". paperspast.natlib.govt.nz. Retrieved 2018-11-25. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)

Requested move 29 March 2020

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Moved as proposed. BD2412 T 19:34, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– Nobody talks about "New Zealand State Highway 1" but it's always "State Highway 1". None of the leads include the "New Zealand"-part of the article title in bold font. I suspect the country is there for disambiguation purposes only. If so, that's not how disambiguation is done. According to our naming conventions, we should use parenthetical disambiguation instead. I've picked half of our single-digit state highways (those that appeared longest according to an eyeball test) to test this. If this proves uncontroversial, we can simply move the rest. If it's not uncontroversial, well, we'll put them through the formal process. Schwede 66 02:17, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, though lots of names begin with the country, eg NZTA, NZR. Johnragla (talk) 03:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Nothing stops an organisation to include the country in their name, and the New Zealand Transport Agency (amongst others) has done so. But that's not the point here. Schwede 66 04:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Common usage, uncontroversial. Paora (talk) 20:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any naming convention for highways, if so we should follow this. Otherwise I'm leaning towards the status quo. Ajf773 (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the closest is Place names in New Zealand #3. I know that the Australians have specific naming conventions for roads; they do the same disambiguation as per our conventions. Schwede 66 22:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder what naming conventions were the basis of them being moved the other way, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_Highway_2_(New_Zealand)&action=history Nurg (talk) 10:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree this is a little bit better.PrisonerB (talk) 11:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Kawakawa

Not sure why you say that's nonsense, Moriori. This is SH1 going through Kawakawa and the Bay of Islands Vintage Railway runs through the town. Schwede 66 00:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, shouldn't have said nonsense, my bad. Can't rv it now unfortunately. I don't see how "...the two-lane highway shares the same right of way as a heritage railway" makes sense. I know we learn something every day and I am willing to be educated if someone can explain with refs what is the right of way the road shares. What does it have right of way over? Moriori (talk) 01:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Right of way is a technical term. Could instead just say "road". Schwede 66 01:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kawakawa revisited

I have removed the image that showed the unusual intersection at Kawakawa. A new roundabout opened there this week. Moriori (talk) 22:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All good with that. Ajf773 (talk) 09:01, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Junction list

I do not support the split of the road junctions to a separate article. This goes against the standard for practically every other highway article. This was previously attempted in 2013, and reverted back to listing on the main article (see List of junctions on New Zealand State Highway 1). It is also common practice for editors to gather consensus before making major changes. Ajf773 (talk) 09:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How long is SH1?

The article says SH1 is 2,033km, 1,081km in the North Island and 952km in the South Island. In a fact sheet which looks as though it was written in about 2010, WK confirms 2,033. However, since then several new stretches have shortened the road. Google maps now shows Cape Reinga to Wellington airport as 1,074km (it's 1,068km via SH32/41) and Picton to Stirling Point as 932km (it's 922km via SH93), a total of 2,006km. Johnragla (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we'll find some official sources on its exact length so approximated length is fine. Ajf773 (talk) 20:52, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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