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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk00:42, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OneLove design
OneLove design

5x expanded by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 01:45, 2 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Reviewing. I am reviewing this now. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:18, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Initial review. Timely article, providing historical context beyond the recent news cycle. Personally, I would recommend running the hook ASAP while the World Cup is still ongoing. On to the review: long enough, well sourced, Earwig says copyvio unlikely, neutral tone in describing controversies. May technically be two days late (DYK tool says 5x expansion began on November 23), but that is within the "one or two day" grace period per D9, and it looks like there were several mitigating factors including the involvement of multiple editors which caused the article to expand and contract significantly at least once, which is understandable given the currency of, and widespread interest in, the topic. The QPQ is done. The hooks are OK. Before I go ahead and tick "approve", I just wanted to ask Kingsif if any hooks are possible mentioning the current World Cup? Also not a blocker to approval, but I might suggest mentioning within the article the Germany team's "covered mouth" protest and the story about the German supermarket pulling its sponsorship causing the German FA to replace their logo with OneLove instead; and possibly other sponsors (e.g. Lucozade) as well? Another side comment is that the bots will eventually flag the fact that there are 7 footnotes strung together at the end of the lede, so I would suggest cleaning that up somehow. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cielquiparle: Thanks for the review! I have made some edits per your suggestions, though I didn't want to add too much about the current World Cup as there is already a lot about it at some more specific articles that are linked. I can suggest some World Cup-related hooks, but did (still do) wonder if they might be too "current" to be accepted, especially if running during the World Cup. Kingsif (talk) 15:10, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Approved. Re: Scheduling: Recommend running *before* World Cup ends on 18 December 2022. Thank you. Cielquiparle (talk) 19:22, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cielquiparle and Kingsif: the first paragraph of the History section has a significant copy-paste from knvb.com. See the earwig report. I know it says "violation unlikely", but if you read the full report, it's obvious it was copied. This needs to be fixed before it can be promoted. The other top items from Earwig are direct quotes which are appropriately attributed, so those are OK. If you want to get this to run before the World Cup is over, time is short. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:38, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: Thanks for flagging. Not sure how I missed that (something to do with translation bots maybe?), as I usually do check "Compare" if the percentage seems high, but I've now edited the copy further and got it down to a 12.3% similarity with KNVB, which is hopefully good enough for now. (Will probably keep tweaking, I'm a bit obsessive-compulsive that way.) Cielquiparle (talk) 21:00, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good now, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Three colours

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Ok, why was noting that the pink, yellow and blue stripes that are said to be for sexual/gender orientation are identical to the Pansexual Pride flag unacceptable to someone? A couple of Pride flags that aren't identical are mentioned, so why not one where - by coincidence or not - that is? Lovingboth (talk) 23:19, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The edit reasons say it is unsourced speculation. I would agree: there is a source for what those three colours represent, and it does not mention the pansexual pride flag. If there was no existing source for the colours, you may have been able to use observational information - a source about the pansexual pride flag with the colours - to reference the similarities. That would still be dubious as it is implying that the two things are related, with no source, which Wikipedia doesn't accept. But you might have got it in. Unfortunately, there is a source about the colours and it doesn't mention pansexual pride. So it either isn't notable enough for coverage, and so shouldn't be included. Or it isn't mentioned because it isn't a reason for the colours, and so shouldn't be included. Your own views on what the colours are, are exactly that: your own. Kingsif (talk) 23:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
See other reply: the German football association say that's where the colours come from. Lovingboth (talk) 23:36, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Interestingly, I don't see the top left colour as like the one in the Pan-African flag at all, but yep, that's what the source says that half was inspired by. Lovingboth (talk) 19:56, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ha, I have found a source - the German Football Association, i.e. the largest single sports federation in the world and one of the nations that wanted to wear it at the recent FIFA World Cup, say that the colours come from the Pansexual Pride flag. Lovingboth (talk) 23:35, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]