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Requested move 4 July 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus against move(s) as proposed. Natg 19 (talk) 01:31, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


– article on the concept of Profane in the english wiki belongs at the primary namespace rather than a latin term for it. Darker Dreams (talk) 10:34, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:22, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Darker Dreams: Your concerns may very well be justified, but I think that the solution you are looking for would be to rename "Profanum" to "Profanity (religion)". The parenthetical disambiguator would still be necessary because "Profanity" most commonly refers to offensive language in general.  Mysterymanblue  22:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mysterymanblue: just to be sure there's no confusion; I'm not suggesting the name be Profanity with or without a disambiguator. I was trying to move this page to "Profane," then add a hatnote pointing to a disambig page that is currently at that page and Profanity. Darker Dreams (talk) 14:38, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prior to the recent Darker Dreams' edits, the article was a rather incoherent collection of thoughts on the level of a (poor) high-school essay [1]. Religion is organized primarily around the sacred elements of human life and provides a collective attempt to bridge the gap between the sacred and the profane. - O RLY? The material merged from Sacred-profane dichotomy is much better and can serve as a material for more coherent article, plus the etymology material from Profanity.
I think we all agree that the title "Profanum" is unacceptable. However, I think whatever title we choose will work best when contrasted with sacred, either in the title or by merging the contents into Sacred. As in "sacred", I'm willing to violate WP:NOUN and keep "profane" in the title–it's much more recognizable in this sense than "profanity", which is instantly associated with cursing.
As a step forward, I'll move the novel to Sacred and Profane (novel) and make a dab page at Sacred and Profane – there are several works of art by that name. No such user (talk) 08:51, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If the concept of "profane" is going to be displaced to "sacred profane dichotomy," I think it's probably better to just merge this start-class article with the Sacred start-class article and several other related stub/start class articles (sanctify, desanctify, desecrate, etc) and try to make on higher quality center of gravity for the concepts that necessary sub-pages can spin off of later. This also gets to live at a page name that is shorter and more natural for searching. Darker Dreams (talk) 19:21, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.