Talk:Rainbows End (Vinge novel)

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On 20 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Rainbows End (novel) to Rainbows End (Vinge novel). The result of the discussion was moved.

Fair use rationale for Image:VernorVinge RainbowsEnd.jpg

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Blathnaid (talk · contribs) fixed the rationale - cohesion 19:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hugo Award

Since this novel has now won the 2007 Hugo Award, I suggest the importance of the article be reviewed. Metamagician3000 13:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I've changed this to a mid-importance article since most previous winners are at that status. Not to mention that Vernor Vinge is a successful sci-fi author. Iansmcl 01:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How did such a shockingly terrible book win the Hugo? JCDenton2052 (talk) 06:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Links

The link to http://vrinimi.org/rainbowsend.html was removed in a previous edit, the reason being "in probable violation of copyright". However, a brief search of domain registry records shows that vrinimi.org is registered to Vernor Vinge, the author. See http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=vrinimi.org for reference. Will T Brown 15:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citation

I just added a citation to this page where I saw a citation needed tag. Hopefully I did this right. I remembered Vinge talking about it during a presentation at long now. The URL is in the citation I created. If there's a better or different way to do this, please feel free to review because I'm not sure I did that according to convention.. but the content is there and applicable. CouchRambo (talk) 01:03, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additional citations

Here are some more citations that might be worked into the article:

Reviews:

Wagner, Thomas M. "Rainbows End". sfreviews.net. Retrieved 23 September 2014.
Harvey, Colin (6 June 2006). "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge". Strange Horizons. Retrieved 23 September 2014.
Tierney, John (25 August 2008). "Technology That Outthinks Us: A Partner or a Master?". New York Times. Retrieved 23 September 2014.
Pulizzi, James (17 April 2014). "Singularity Now, or Why We Already Live in the Future". Los Angeles Review of Books. Retrieved 23 September 2014.

Interviews:

Farrell, Shaun (April 2006). "Shaun Farrell interviews Vernor Vinge". Far Sector. Retrieved 23 September 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |work= (help)
Costello, Paul (Summer 2012). "A Singularity Senstation". Stanford Medicine Magazine. Retrieved 23 September 2014. {{cite web}}: External link in |work= (help)
"Author Vernor Vinge Predicted Google Glasses". Talk of the Nation. 18 April 2012. Retrieved 23 September 2014.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 0x0077BE (talk • contribs) 18:59, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jerzy Hacek

Minimal importance here, but the name is loosely inspired by the Czech háček (ˇ) diacritical mark and well-known Czech author Jaroslav Hašek (The Good Soldier Schweik). In Czech, the c of 'Hacek' would be a 'ts' sound, but Vinge gave no canon pronunciation. -- Ahazred8 (talk) 01:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 January 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. – robertsky (talk) 06:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rainbows End (novel) → Rainbows End (Vinge novel) – I know that this one differs from the others by not having an apostrophe, but I think that adding the author makes it clearer on searches, seeing that there are two other novels of the same name (with apostrophe) (see Rainbow's End (disambiguation)). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:05, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Or, even if we ignore that guideline, there is only one other novel with an article, not two, and even if they had identical titles, this one would be the overwhelming WP:primary topic (see pageviews). There does not seem to be a problem with the current setup. Station1 (talk) 07:28, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination. Differentiating main title headers of English Wikipedia entries via accents, diacritics or punctuation is insufficient, even taking WP:SMALLDIFFS into account. Thus, the adjoining parenthetical qualifiers — Rainbow's End (Cain novel) and Rainbows End (novel) — appear unbalanced and it would seem more intuitive if both Rainbows End (novel) and Rainbow's End (novel) were judged to be incomplete disambiguations and redirected to the Rainbow's End disambiguation page.
As for the dab page entry "Rainbow's End (Grimes novel), a 1995 novel by Martha Grimes", which redirects to Martha Grimes#Works, since it has no article and barely a WP:DABMENTION, its link is misleading users into thinking that this novel has an actual write-up. Ultimately, it would be more intuitively listed on the dab page as "Rainbow's End, a 1995 novel, see Martha Grimes#Works". —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:08, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:SMALLDETAILS - what the guideline actually says, that small details usually aren't enough. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:21, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:15, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.