Talk:Richard Stallman

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 September 2019[edit]

I wish to provide a citation for the rms's resignation.

Please change:

On September 16th 2019, he stepped down as president of the FSF and left his ‘visiting scientist’ role at MIT.


On September 16th 2019, he stepped down as president of the FSF[1] and left his ‘visiting scientist’ role at MIT. jbailey (talk) 05:58, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


  1. ^ "Richard M. Stallman resigns". September 16, 2019. Retrieved September 16, 2019.
Better sources:
--Guy Macon (talk) 07:16, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 Done Sceptre (talk) 16:36, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

needlessly malicious sentence structure[edit]

"resigned from MIT in 2019 after an email exchange related to Jeffrey Epstein, Marvin Minsky, and sexual assault of minors." easily reads as "Stallman resigned after stuff and sexual assault of minors", which is just not ok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:96BF:B663:9D4:11B0:B627:7DCE (talk) 19:20, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

  • Why, exactly, is your IP range repeatedly posting about this here This is not malicious at all. That's exactly what happened. -- Rockstonetalk to me! 21:13, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

In "Controversy" section, wording w.r.t. reporting is imprecise[edit]

It says "Stallman's colleagues reported that he made statements on an internal CSAIL listserv", but the cited articles just generally they were "leaked". Other articles mention that they were leaked by a specific person who says at that "I’m writing this because at 11AM on Wednesday, September 11th 2019, my friend sent me an email that was sent to an MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) mailing list." So the emails were not leaked by colleagues, but by a person on the quite large CSAIL mailing list, to a person not on the mailing list, to the media. The person not on the mailing list is not a colleague of Stallman; she is just affiliated with the same quite large university Stallman had an office at. There is no indication anywhere that they ever worked on a project together, or in fact that they ever met at all. I don't think this fact has any strong bearing on the situation one way or the other - it's just wrong. Djbclark (talk) 22:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, good point, I took that out. Haukur (talk) 22:58, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
If someone was on CSAIL, they're a colleague, and they leaked it to someone who leaked it to the press, but do you. (talk) 02:22, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

That's just not what the word "colleague" means - to make sure I'm not illiterate I just looked up the word in a bunch of dictionaries, and they all have some variant of "Your colleagues are the people you work with, especially in a professional job." Stallman was not employed by MIT, and did not teach there; he was just given an office as an honor for his contributions to computing. Stallman did not work with the person who leaked the emails to the press, and I don't think we know his relationship with the person actually on the list who was first in the leak chain either. Stallman in fact did not really work with anyone at MIT except a few people who were also on the FSF board or volunteered for the FSF. I do not understand what your "but do you" means, so I can not comment on that. Djbclark (talk) 12:10, 24 September 2019 (UTC)