Talk:Robert E. Murray

A news item involving Robert E. Murray was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 26 October 2020.

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A fact from Robert E. Murray appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 August 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Robert E. Murray, a partial owner of Crandall Canyon Mine, which recently collapsed trapping six workers, says he was himself once trapped in a collapsed mine for 12 hours?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/August.

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He reminds me a lot of Captain Ahab. 142.104.60.203 06:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious tag on talking squirrel story

I'd like to propose that we keep the tidbit about the talking squirrel, and remove the "dubious" tag next to it. (Full disclosure: I started this article and included that element.)

I worked hard to explain that the UMWA article is the only avialable source, and that it's more of a legend than a fact. However, the fact is that the legend exists. Today on WORT-FM, I asked Ellen Smith (who has been reporting on mining in the US since 1987) about the squirrel; she confirmed that it was a widely-retold story about the man, and indicative of his personality (which, I think we can all agree given his behavior in the past week or so, is erratic).

She then described a situation with a miner at one of Murray's mines who got his arm ripped off and bled to death. I'll be researching that and adding it as soon as I have some time. — Scartol • Talk 22:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am on the fence about the dubious tag; the story itself is obviously dubious, but it was in that particular article and including the assertion that it is "satirical" shows that it's more a story than fact. However, I don't see what a man getting injured in one of his mines has to do with him personally or how that would be relevant, unless he personally had neglected safety in some way or has been blamed by reliable sources for the death. The Crandall Canyon mine is obviously worth mentioning because that's how he came to national attention, and he has been mentioned in news coverage of the incident. He would have to be mentioned in connection with this horrible incident if it is to be mentioned in the article; this follows the standards of the living persons guidelines.--Gloriamarie 20:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MSHS Investigation Findings and Fine Issued

The MSHA report concluding the investigation of the Crandall Canyon incident was released just under a year ago and a $1,340,000 fine issued to Genwal, the mine operating subsidiary of Bob Murray's UtahAmerican Energy Inc., on July 24, 2008. If no-one has a problem with it, I propose adjusting current entries to reflect issued reports and levied fines with links to the referenced sources. Sh33ph3rd (talk) 04:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I put in part of it. Please go ahead and adjust and do whatever else you feel needs to be done. Fanra (talk) 19:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biased POV in Murray Energy section?

Much of the content in the first two parts of the Murray Energy section seem awfully biased (almost self-defense). Starting with the third paragraph ("In addition to the wages and benefits...") down through the entire Mining Safety subsection, this material seems to be overtly biased to put Murray in a very positive light - and much of the material isn't even necessarily relevant to the man himself, more so to the company. Putting an NPOV tag on for others to make the call. Ψν^Psi_nu 13:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, also see the last couple of paragraphs in "Early Career". Seems odd. Ψν^Psi_nu 16:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Last Week Tonight segment

I'm not sure there's much coverage of it yet, or how notable it is, but Last Week Tonight with John Oliver just did a segment focused on Murray Energy and Murray himself. He also sent the show a cease-and-desist letter and threatened to sue. V2Blast (talk) 20:48, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See the reading of the suit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns71Z8RoVn0 - Murray is a criminal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.183.138.57 (talk) 13:00, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Very funny ACLU amicus brief about the absurdity of the lawsuit: [1] --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:50, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Having just heard about the suit being dismissed, I am so so tempted to add the "Dr Evil" comparison picture to the article's infobox…but no, I am a good Wikipedian so I'll just have to dream! —Phil | Talk 11:07, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mine collapse

So, when all the expert and consensus sources state that the truth is that the collapse was caused by Genwal Resources' unsafe practices, can we just state that as fact in wikipedia's voice? Or do we still have to frame it as a claim?199.247.45.139 (talk) 14:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He was criticised by who?

The second sentence of the first paragraph reads as:

"Murray was widely criticized for his denial of climate change,[2] his actions following the Crandall Canyon Mine collapse and his consistent support of the Republican Party."

Is there any other article on Wikipedia that mentions a notable person as being criticized for being a member of the Democratic Party?

Thanks Jeffrey Roehl

Jroehl (talk) 23:58, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Republican Party part was undue. I removed that. --Hob Gadling (talk) 12:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Jroehl (talk) 14:21, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]