Talk:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis
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Move from Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis in accordance with (1) clarity and wiki standards and (2) uniformity with other diocesan articles.
- Support move.The current name is too long. No one in the Twin Cities calls it the "Roman Catholic Archdiocese". It should be identified as such in the text as now, but there is no reason to give the article this LONG name that is not used. EdwinHJ | Talk 22:11, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose move. It is a Wikipedia standard to include "Roman Catholic" in the title of all articles about the archdioceses and dioceses for (1) uniformity, (2) clarification to distinguish dioceses of other denominations with similar names and (3)concensus with other Wikipedia admins/editors in various other discussions concerning naming conventions. See List of the Roman Catholic dioceses of the United States, List of the Roman Catholic dioceses of Japan, List of the Roman Catholic dioceses of Italy as examples. --Gerald Farinas 01:53, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose move. You would throw off the entire standard for all the articles on the archdioceses and dioceses of the Roman Catholic Church. For example, see: Category:Roman Catholic dioceses of the United States. --James Easton 01:56, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- The standard is simply silly. Why should an article be named something that no one calls it simply because some people on Wikipedia prefer it for ease. In some cases, there may be a legimate need to distinguish between different denomination's divisions, however in the US no other major church body even USES the term archdiocese. In this specific case the only other diocese in the same area is the Episcopal Church's, and theirs is called the Diocese of Minnesota not Saint Paul and Minneapolis. This standard is arbitrary and has no relevance to archdioceses within the US.EdwinHJ | Talk 18:34, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
"It is led by the prelature of an archbishop which administers the archdiocese from the cities of Saint Paul and Minneapolis."
Per the MOS, should the archbishop, archdiocese etc always be referred to as "Saint Paul" rather than "St Paul" (or worse "St. Paul"), since the city's official site seems to currently heavily favour the full form? DBD 12:46, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
- Probably yes, more because the archdiocese itself exclusively uses the full form than because of anything the city's website says (which amusingly calls itself "City of St. Paul, MN - Official Website", though apparently it uses the full name ewerywhere else). Since this article already does so, this may not be the best place for the discussion, though. Huon (talk) 22:22, 30 July 2011 (UTC)