Talk:Ronald Searle

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Bibliography

I just started a bibliography in this article, but it's wildly incomplete. In fact, all it is is the Searle books I happen to have on the shelf to the left of my computer. Please feel free to add more. Artemis-Arethusa (talk) 17:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Books illustrated by Searle. Ditto. 78.147.200.242 (talk) 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll paste the bibliography from http://www.ronaldsearle.co.uk/biblio.htm (an unofficial/unaffiliated site) to here, in a collapsed section, for people to work on verifying and incorporating. -- Quiddity (talk) 01:25, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Bibliography that needs checking

2 sections: Books that might be written/illustrated purely by Searle (?). (1948) Hurrah For St Trinians (1949) This England 1946-1949 (Audrey Hilton ed.) (1951) Back To The Slaughterhouse (1953) Souls in Torment (preface by C. Day Lewis) (1954) The Female Approach (1954) The Journal Of Edwin Carp (Richard Haydn ed.) (1955) The Rake's Progress (1956) Merrie England Etc (1959) Anger of Achilles: Homer's Illiad (Robert Graves trans.) (1960) Penguin Ronald Searle (1961) Which Way Did He Go? (1964) Searle In The Sixties (1964) From Frozen North to Filthy Lucre (1966) Haven't We Met Before Somewhere? (1967) Searle's Cats (1968) The Square Egg (1968) Take One Toad (1969) Hello, where did all the people go? (1969) The Second Coming of Toulouse-Lautrec (1969) Secret Sketchbook (1971) The Addict (1975) More Cats (1977) Zoodiac (1978) Ronald Searle (1980) The King of Beasts & Other Creatures (1980) The Situation is Hopeless (1982) Ronald Searle's Big Fat Cat Book (1983) The Illustrated Winespeak (1983) Ronald Searle in Perspective (1985) Ronald Searle's Golden Oldies 1941 - 1961 (1986) Something in the Cellar (1986) To the Kwai and Back: War Drawings 1939-1945 (1988) Ronald Searle's Non-Sexist Dictionary (1988) Ah Yes, I Remember It Well...: Paris 1961-1975 (1989) Slightly Foxed - But Still Desirable (1994) Marquis De Sade Meets Goody Two-Shoes (2002) Ronald Searle in Le Monde Books noted as being "with" someone. Searle be co-author, might be illustrator, might be other.) (1947) White Coolie - with Ronald Hastain (1950) The Stolen Journey - with Oliver Philpot (1950) An Irishman's Diary - with Patrick Campbell (1950) Dear Life - with H.E. Bates (1950) Paris Sketchbook - with Kaye Webb (1951) A Sleep of Prisoners - with Christopher Fry (1951) Life in Thin Slices - with Patrick Campbell (1952) It Must be True - with Denys Parsons (1952) London So Help Me - with Ellis Winifred (1952) The Terror of St Trinian's - with Timothy Shy (1953) The Diverting History of John Gilpin - with William Cowper (1953) Looking at London and People Worth Meeting - with Kaye Webb (1953) Down with Skool! - with Geoffrey Willans (1954) The Dark is Light Enough - with Christopher Fry (1954) Patrick Campbells Omnibus - with Patrick Campbell (1954) How to be Topp - with Geoffrey Willans (1955) Modern Types - with Geoffrey Gorer (1956) Whizz for Atomms - with Geoffrey Willans (1956) Molesworth's Guide To The Atommic Age - with Geoffrey Willans (1956) Anglo-Saxon Attitudes - with Angus Wilson (1958) The Big City or the New Mayhew - with Alex Atkinson (1958) The Dog's Ear Book - with Geoffrey Willans (1959) USA for Beginners - with Alex Atkinson (1959) The St Trinian's Story - with Kaye Webb (1959) Back In The Jug Agane - with Geoffrey Willans (1960) By Rocking Horse Across Russia - with Alex Atkinson (1960) Refugees 1960 - with Kaye Webb (1961) A Christmas Carol - with Charles Dickens (1969) This Business of Bomfog - with Madelaine Duke (1969) Monte Carlo Or Bust - with E.W. Hildick (1970) Scrooge - with Elaine Donaldson (1971) Mr. Lock of St. James's Street - with Frank Whitbourn (1975) Dick Dead Eye - with Gilbert & Sullivan (1977) Paris! Paris! - with Irwin Shaw (1980) Winning the Restaurant Game - with Jay Jacobs (1994) The Tales of Grandpa Cat - with Wardlaw Lee (1995) The Hatless Man - with Sarah Cortum (1999) A French Affair : The Paris Beat, 1965-1998 - with Mary Blume

I've now added this list, merged with what we had here, split the Trinian's and Molesworth books into subsections, and verified what I could. Plus added the latest releases as listed at Amazon.co.uk. All of which will probably make some folks happy, and some notsomuch. So it goes.

I (or you) could eventually separate out a section of his solo works. That will make me happy. -- Quiddity (talk) 23:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

The "creator of necklaces"

"... he moved to Paris, leaving his family and later marrying Monica Koenig, theater designer and creator of necklaces." - This needs clarification. Call me a Neanderthal but apparently necklaces have been about for 40,000 years. I can't find a source but should it say something like "jewellery designer" or "necklace maker". - Cablehorn (talk) 04:27, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Is there some kind of actual ambiguity in the original? To be honest I find this rather far-fetched. The meaning you see would be expressed as "created the first necklace" - every individual necklace can be described as a "creation" - the word "create" is in fact very commonly used in senses other than "originate" or "invent", especially in artistic contexts.

If it does seem a rather odd way of describing the second Mrs. Searle, it is clear, succinct, and unambiguous - which, with due respect, neither of your tries are. Did she design any other kind of jewellery? Did she "make" the necklaces at all - or did she just create the designs? In "brushing up prose" we have to be careful we do not change the meaning of the original - or introduce new implications - unless of course we are aware of real inaccuracy in the original, and want to correct this. Does anyone know anything about Monica? Was she a crafswoman or a pure designer? Was it her profession or just a hobby? The text doesn't say, and without knowing more ourselves (and having a reliable source we can quote) we do have to be careful not to say more than the text does when we edit it. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 22:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

One of the references to the main article links to a jewellery exhibition in New York: the announcement describes her as a "painter, theater and jewelry designer." NRPanikker (talk) 13:58, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Searle's "release from captivity" weight

"Pounds" is totally American and quite impossible. People in Britain (and Australia) were NEVER weighed in pounds but in "stones" (there were 14 pounds in a stone) so giving Searle's weight in pounds doesn't give any idea of his emaciation (except to an American). So should we translate 85 pounds to "6 stones"? Nearly did just that - but then this would mean nothing whatever to American readers, nor to young British or Australian ones for that matter, since the English speaking world apart from the U.S. is now pretty comprehensively metricised. Finally decided to convert to (rounded) kilograms (no need for precise conversion when we're talking about an approximation anyway) as this is what we would currently say in the English speaking world outside the US (not to mention in most non-English speaking countries as well). --Soundofmusicals (talk) 08:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Court artist at Nuremberg trials

There's no citation for Searle acting as a court artist at the Nuremberg trial, I've found no drawings for this but there are drawings from the Eichmann trial in Jerusalem some fifteen later. Has a contributor got the two events mixed?

LelseyandOl (talk) 16:39, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

References