Talk:Rose Freistater

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A fact from Rose Freistater appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 March 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Rose Freistater was "too fat" to be a teacher in New York City?

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The result was: promoted by Dying (talk) 09:44, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Rose Freistater was fired from her teaching job for being overweight?~~ Source: Perrillo, Jonna (2017-02-24). "Beyond "Progressive" Reform: Bodies, Discipline, and the Construction of the Professional Teacher in Interwar America". History of Education Quarterly. 44 (3): 337–343. doi:10.1111/j.1748-5959.2004.tb00013.x.
- ALT1: ... that Rose Freistater was too fat to be a teacher in New York City? Source: "City Holds Woman Too Fat To Teach". The New York Times. 1935-07-16. p. 21. ISSN 0362-4331. ProQuest 101415570.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Francis O'Connor
- Comment: I'm aware ALT1 might read as offensive to some, but "too fat" is the exact language used in the source.

Created by ThadeusOfNazereth (talk). Self-nominated at 00:36, 1 February 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rose Freistater, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Article is neutral, meets the required length, and is sufficiently referenced. QPQ looks good. Hooks are interesting and succinct, but I see no mention of Freistater being "fired from her teaching job" in either the article or the source, just that she was denied her full-time license. Please let me know if I'm missing something, but I'd recommend rephrasing. I don't oppose the phrasing in ALT1, but I'd consider putting "too fat" in quotes and adding this to the article if it fits. This is almost good to go! – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good catch - That's what I get for not taking editing breaks! Rephrased hooks below: ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 01:18, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

... that Rose Freistater was denied a teaching license for being overweight? Source: Perrillo, Jonna (2017-02-24). "Beyond "Progressive" Reform: Bodies, Discipline, and the Construction of the Professional Teacher in Interwar America". History of Education Quarterly. 44 (3): 337–343. doi:10.1111/j.1748-5959.2004.tb00013.x.
ALT1: ... that Rose Freistater was "too fat" to be a teacher in New York City? Source: "City Holds Woman Too Fat To Teach". The New York Times. 1935-07-16. p. 21. ISSN 0362-4331. ProQuest 101415570.

Perfect! This is good to go. A fascinating topic; thank you for sharing it. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 01:24, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Completing the circle

Are we certain of the birth date listed (Sept. 24, 1908)? Because if that is correct, we should also list her death in Mexico City on Nov. 30, 1974. The death certificate (for Rose Gardenberg), which gives the same birth date, as well as the record of her marriage to Rafael Gardenberg in 1939, are both on Ancestry. Biggleston (talk) 23:54, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]