Talk:Same-sex marriage law in the United States by state
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- 1 DC section needs updating.
- 2 Maryland now recognizes Same-Sex Marriages
- 3 Replacement article
- 4 "Outdated" Tag Removed (June 2011)
- 5 NM update?
- 6 PA needs updated
- 7 Request for Comment
- 8 Louisiana
- 9 Article title
- 10 Illinois legalization
- 11 Pennsylvania gay marriage ruling & discussion of current status - USA Today, May 20, 2014
- 12 Same-sex marriage map
- 13 Merge
- 14 Purpose
- 15 Effect of 10th Circuit cases
- 16 Add state names to map?
- 17 Strike though seems inappropriate for an encyclopedia
- 18 Alabama
- 19 Regarding "Other U.S. jurisdictions"
DC section needs updating.
Maryland now recognizes Same-Sex Marriages
Native94080 (talk) 23:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
"Outdated" Tag Removed (June 2011)
I removed the "Outdated" tag that appeared on this article, dated August 2010. The article now appears to be up-to-date, reflecting several recent changes in this area of law in New York, Delaware, and Illinois. The comments from other editors regarding Maryland, DC, and New Hampshire, all appear to have been resolved. Bry9000 (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Does the section detailing NM law need to be updated, as per the AG ruling on Jan. 4, 2011? http://www.nmag.gov/Opinions/Opinion.aspx?OpID=1131 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
PA needs updated
State Senator Daylin Leach has proposed a bill to amend § 1102 of Title 23 Chapter 17 to allow same sex marriage and recognize out of state marriages involving the same sex. PA Senate Bill number 461 http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&sessYr=2011&sessInd=0&billBody=S&billTyp=B&billNbr=0461&pn=0450 M80kamikaze (talk) 18:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
The reference (currently #28 here), in the first paragraph, is a link to a general Tulane publication web page (no mention of anything it is suppose to source and listed as [dead link]), that has to cast doubt on the validity of the content, leaving the said content unsubstantiated thus original research. Otr500 (talk) 07:27, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
The title of this article ''Same-sex marriage law in the United States by state would be far more appropriate as Same-sex marriage laws in the United States by state. The word law is singular. There is not one law covered by the 50 states nor a "singular" law involved, such as one handed down because of a Supreme Court decision, so there are many laws.
- The word law is used in its collective sense. When one studies, for example, "Constitutional law" or "Criminal law" or "Family law" or "International law", one is not studying a single law, but a body of law. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 23:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
I need some clarification because the answer above is the meaning I supposed. There actually are such words (phrases) such as "Constitutional law", "Criminal Law", "Family law", and "International law", that is inclusive of many laws (plural) concerning the subject collectively referred to in the singular law. I searched, what I considered fairly completely, and I could not find any source to point me to an area of law known as Same-sex marriage law in the United States or elsewhere. This included looking for any singular use that would be comprehensive enough to be considered "a law" (in the singular form to include groups of laws) that would cover the subject under the title heading.
So the question is: "If" we are not creating "new words" or "phrases" (neologisms) would you be so kind as to point me to the source or reference(s) for "Same-sex marriage law" such as the examples you have given? I used Google and in every instant I could not find such a title, actual name, or phrase. I could find much information concerning your provided examples to include Wikipedia coverage:
- Family law: "is the area in law that handles the family related situations", or "Statutes, court decisions, and provisions of the federal and state constitutions that relate to family relationships, rights, duties, and finances.".
- Criminal law: 1)- a system of law (the body of law) concerned with the punishment of those who commit crimes, or 2)- the branch of law concerning crimes, or 3)- governs crimes, including felonies and misdemeanors.
- Constitutional law: "The broad topic of constitutional law deals with the interpretation and implementation of the United States Constitution.", or "Constitutional law is the law set forth by a country's constitution.".
- International law: "a body of rules established by custom or treaty and recognized by nations as binding in their relations with one another.", but Same-sex marriage law seems to have eluded me nor could I find such a law classification one might study. I would imagine, given recent court decisions, that such a name would likely be classified as family law.
- Wikipedia policies and guidelines gives consensus derived guidance on titles so I just like to know if I have missed something or if we are covering (in advance) a phrase that will likely be used in the future. Otherwise, the suggested title (lacking references I did not find) would be more suited to be in compliance with the policy covering article titles, particularly; "Generally, article titles are based on what the subject is called in reliable sources. When this offers multiple possibilities, editors choose among them by considering several principles: the ideal article title resembles titles for similar articles, precisely identifies the subject, and is short, natural, and recognizable.". I am simply pointing out that by using the current title, especially comparing it to other "known" areas in law, if such an area in "law" as the title implies does not exist, then the following may need to be consulted:
Pennsylvania gay marriage ruling & discussion of current status - USA Today, May 20, 2014
Same-sex marriage map
What is the purpose of this article? All this article does is list a bunch of laws regarding same-sex marriage. I don't think we need an article that does this.. I might request for this article to be deleted if it qualifies for deletion. Prcc★27 (talk) 05:09, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Effect of 10th Circuit cases
We need an update on the US Supreme Court's denial of writ of certiorari as it relates to the 10th Circuit. Therefore, is marriage equality a reality today in Wyoming, or not? Bearian (talk) 13:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
- No it's not. Court rulings establish precedents that are binding on other courts. But no court has yet ordered WY to do anything. There's a new lawsuit in WY today that's trying to get a federal court there to issue such an order. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 14:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Add state names to map?
A bit of a niggling comment, but is it possible to add the state abbreviations to the map? That would make it near perfect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 16:09, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Strike though seems inappropriate for an encyclopedia
I understand that the strike though text on this page is meant to single that the law is no longer in effect and/or over ruled. To me it would it seem more appropriate for the article to simple state whether not that the law is still in effect like have a box box above the law that says Ineffective rather then a strikethough because doing so makes the text unreadable which seems counterproductive to an encyclopedia.--22.214.171.124 (talk) 15:55, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
We need to change Alabama's green "same-sex marriage legal" checkmark, since that is no longer the case. Perhaps a checkmark, and a slash, then the red ex to denote complications. Or we can just write it out like in Kansas's samesex marriage checkbox. VisaBlack (talk) 01:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Regarding "Other U.S. jurisdictions"
It is my understanding that blanket declarations by the US Supreme Court, as happened with Obergefell, apply to all US jurisdictions, including territories, commonwealths and districts. So the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, et al. should be tagged as having same-sex marriage bans overturned and same-sex marriage being legal, correct? TechBear | Talk | Contributions 00:37, 30 June 2015 (UTC)