Talk:Mahabad

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I don't know why Bcorr reverted my edits, Every body in Iran knows this city and its condition.

Perhaps anyone can writre more bout the situation in Mahabad during July/August. In the german one, there is much written bout this. --134.147.31.54 22:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi I have found in the german Article a picture from Mahabad, perhaps anyone can put it here 2. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Mahabad.jpg

Hi, I think it's copyrighted. Diyako Talk + 16:59, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

City Name

The kurdish name of the city is Sablakh/سابلاخ(kudish latin script, Sabilax). Mahabad is the persian name of the city.

deleting irrelevant

GRAMMATICAL ERRORS

Greetings!

I have noticed that this article is riddled with innumerable grammatical errors. Please double-check your content prior to posting it.

Thanks,

--Shahram12

Russian backed forces?

It's writte the iranian army reconquerd the city from russian backed forces. Are there any refernces the forces who where in 1979 in Mahabad where russian backed? --134.147.73.74 11:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Mah+abad

The article says: The name of 'Mahabad' (mah+abad) is the Persian translation of the ancient Mannaean name meaning place of moon, which is also a cognate with the Kurdish word mang. I dont know to what degree this is true, as the poorly known Mannaeans themselves were absorbed by Medes; but I'm sure that the Persian word 'mah' as in 'Mah'abad means Medes or Media (Thus Mahabad meaning Cultivated by Medes or Land of Medes). Kurdish translation of this 'Mah' is Mang which also can be seen in the name of Kurds for themselves KurdManj (or KurManj). Asoyrun 17:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Budak Sultan

According Encyclopaedia iranica and Islamic encyclopaedia, this Budak Sultan is unknow. Please quote the reference or delete it. Can be a confusion of Bulak from he Ak Koyunlu? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.16.142.62 (talk) 21:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Reversion of fusion and page renaming

Hi. Since Piranshahr is at 80 from Mahabad and the title "Piranshahr 6 Mahabad" makes no sense in my way, I tried to undo the changes which Neekan (talk) made on this page. However, I got the message "The edit appears to have already been undone." and my reverting of the changes was not visible on the preview page and had no effect. Can someone help me undo the changes or undo them? Thanks. CathFR (talk) 12:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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شهرهای مهاباد و پیرانشهر دو شهر اصلی‌ منطقه مکریان به شمار میروند. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevesh7ap (talk • contribs) 01:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Edits made by Migboy123

Your edits show that you are trying to eliminate the kurdish identity of mahabad in this article , which is an obvious matter and accepted fact. Explain your reasons and why you are concentrating your energy about this particular city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reverter33 (talk • contribs)

Instead of accusing me of such things with no basis, you should explain why you are supporting the severing of the Iranian identity of Kurdish people. Kurds are Iranians, you cannot say "The people are Kurdish", there are other Iranians living there too. Such as Persians, Azeris etc. "Most People follow Sunni branch of Islam.", who said this, where is it from? "Modern Kurdish State in Mahabad", the Republic of Mahabad wasn't a Kurdish state, it was a Soviet puppet state, it didn't mention in it's constitution that it was a "Kurdish state". "In 2017 thousands of Iranian police forces arrived in the city after Kurds in the region celebrated the Kurdistan Referendum.", this is fake news, provide evidence for this. "...ethnic Kurds rioted following the unexplained death on 4 May 2015 of Farinaz Khosravani, a Kurdish hotel chambermaid. Khosravani fell to her death from a fourth-floor window of the Tara, the hotel where she worked. Anger mounted following reports that Khosravani died attempting to escape an Iranian official who was threatening to rape her." Why is there the need to put "Kurd" in every sentence? The lady was supposedly had threats of rape made against her, that's it. The people naturally erupted, this happens everywhere in Iran. Everything I delted was unsourced and written with bias and politically motivated. Iran isn't Turkey or Iraq, our Kurds are Iranians, Iran is their nation, their race, culture and history is Iranian. Stop trying to sever this tie and separate us.Migboy123 (talk) 12:37, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunatley you are trying to impose your biased ideas by accusing others , by the way I am not going to enter an edit war with you. I'm trying my best to improve the article and I hope you'll do the same.If this leads to a deadlock, then moderaors will enter.

Some points must be clarified first and seperated .
1) Demogrraphy : It is not a political issue. It is an obvious inseperable part of every serious article about each city.
2)"Other ethnics beside kurds are living there." It is an obvious matter. This is true for every major city in every part of world, including azeri speaking cities in iran like tabriz,ardebil , zanjan, khoy , which obviously you don't have any problem their relevant articles that show them as azeri cities. When we say this city is predominantly kurdish , it means that that the majority of city population are kurds not every body .
3)"This city is predominantly kurdish", who says that? every body in iran, but I used an extra source which is not kurdish or even an iranian source . I used britannica and you deleted it . If you have any doubt about validity of britannica then lets moderators solve the problem.
4)"Who says the predominant majority follow the sunni branch of islam "? While some kurds follow shi'a Islam who are living in southern part of kurdistan ( including kemanshah , Ilam and feyli kurds in iraq) and while some are Ahl-e-haqq , majority of kurds follow the sunni branch of Islam , who say that ? look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Kurdistan .
5)For the moment I will just restore only the Demographic part. If you insist to delete it without any reason, It will be a deadlock. If not , there will be some hope to improve the article to a better condition.Reverter33 (talk) 21:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

This isn't biased ideas, the article is biased. Stop acting like the victim. 1) Tabriz, Ardebil and Zanjan etc, do not say in their opening paragraph that "the city is Azeri". It states that the majority of the city's population is Azeri speaking. I did the same with those articles. 2) You are using "Kurdish" and "Iranian" as two separate entities, they are one entity. Iranian is not a nationality, and it is especially not one in this context. 3) This issue is that no one knows the religious demographics of Iran, according to the government 98% of the population is Shia Muslim. You shouldn't add that because there is no reliable information on it. 4) Once again, stop playing the victim. The article is improved by removing politically motivated material which is factually incorrect and unsourced. I check all the sources used and debate whether or not they are realible and from credible sources. It must also be noted that non-sourced material is not acceptable, you cannot support that.Migboy123 (talk) 23:55, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

"1) Tabriz, Ardebil and Zanjan etc, do not say in their opening paragraph that "the city is Azeri". It states that the majority of the city's population is Azeri speaking. I did the same with those articles."

So why not add " Majority of city's population is Kurdish speaking" to the opening paragraph.

"2) You are using "Kurdish" and "Iranian" as two separate entities, they are one entity. Iranian is not a nationality, and it is especially not one in this context."

No , not right. It is about language. Iranian in this context is a language family which is a branch of Indo-European language family, Kurdish language is a member of northwestern branch of Iranian language family. So it has nothing to do with nationality or ethnics, its about linguistics.

"3) This issue is that no one knows the religious demographics of Iran, according to the government 98% of the population is Shia Muslim. You shouldn't add that because there is no reliable information on it."

Iraninan Goverment never gave any official statistical data containing ethnics or religion materials. If you are refering to CIA World Fact book, it is saying that 89% of Iranian population follow shi'a branch of Islam. Nobody challanges it. Sunnies are absolute minorities, again a proven fact. This does not change this fact that majority of kurds follow the sunni Islam, If majority of city population are kurds, so majority of population are sunni. There are 72 mosque in this city and only two of them are for shi'a. This is in a country that the official religion is shi'a and it has a religious goverment.

"4) Once again, stop playing the victim. The article is improved by removing politically motivated material which is factually incorrect and unsourced. I check all the sources used and debate whether or not they are realible and from credible sources. It must also be noted that non-sourced material is not acceptable, you cannot support that."

Ignoring your childish literature, I am also against adding unsourced material and also against chaniging this artilcle to a political pamphlet. Reverter33 (talk) 13:00, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 July 2021

Please add the following image:

Panoramic view of Mahabad in 1951

Mhsheikholeslami (talk) 02:26, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:43, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Shootings

Iranian government shooting its own citizens 2A02:C7C:749C:3A00:D00E:8C64:AAE4:7187 (talk) 00:42, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 April 2024

Regarding the article of Mahabad in English wikipedia

please add the well-sourced material to the article of mahabad in english wikipedia.

here the information which is sourced and i ask you to be added to the mahabad article

Demographics

Language

The majority of the people in Mahabad speak the Sorani dialect of Kurdish. Although a very small minority speak Azerbaijani.

Religion

The predominant religion in Mahabad is Sunni Islam, however there are a small number of Jews and Christians in the city. There is a also a minority of Shia Muslims who have migrated to Mahabad from other cities. The majority of the Shia Muslims, whom comprise about 2% of the city, speak Azerbaijani.

Employment

In 1977 the employment rate of the city was 95.8%, much higher than the provincial average of 86%. However after the Iranian Revolution of 1979 the employment rate fell and reached 88.8% in 1997.

Transportation

By road, Mahabad is 122 kilometres away from the provincial capital Urmia, and 679 kilometres away from the country capital Tehran.

Railway

In 2013, Mahabad was connected to the national railway and a 40 kilometre route between the city and Miandoab was established. The project was inaugurated in the presence of then president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Bus system

In 2000, the Mahabad bus service was inaugurated with five buses which operated three routes within the city. By 2007, the number of buses had reached 39 which operated nine routes.

Sports

The biggest sports complex in Mahabad is the Azadi Sports Complex. The complex has a football ground which was built in 1973, a 2,000 seat covered arena, a wrestling hall, table tennis complex, weightlifting hall and a gymnastics hall.

Volleyball

Volleyball is the most popular sport in Mahabad and the city has several teams playing in the different levels of the Iranian league system. Mahabad's rise in volleyball dates back to the 1990s, when Farmandarie Mahabad became champions of the Iranian first division (second tier). In 1995, the team then went on to finish a record fourth in the Iranian Super League, however the team was dissolved only shortly after. Farhad Piroutpour is the most successful player to have come from Mahabad, he has been a member of the Iran national volleyball team since 2011.

In 2012, after two decades, Farmandarie Mahabad was re-established and began competing in the Iranian first division. In 2013, another team by the name of Shahrdari Mahabad was formed and started competing in the West Azerbaijan Super League.

here is another part of the text which you can add

Culture

The prolific translator into Persian, Mohammad Qazi came from Mahabad. He translated more than 70 important literary works into Persian. Some poets and writers have hailed from this city in the 19th and 20th century. Wafaei(1844-1902), Hejar (Abdurrahman Sharfkandi)(1920-1990), Hêmin(Sayyed Moháammad Amini Shaykho-al-Eslam Mokri)(1920-1986), Abdorrahamn Zabihi (1920-1980) and Giw Mukriyani, all from Mahabad, are considered as the main writers and poets. The first Kurdish-Kurdish-Persian Dictionary in Iran was written by Hejar. Kurdistan's national poet was the title given to Hejar(along with Hêmin) during the short lived reign of the Republic of Mahabad in recognition of his poetry's service to the cause[1]. After the fall of the Pahlavi monarchy in Iran in 1979, "Hêmin" set up the Salaha-al-Din Ayyubi Kurdish publishing house in Urmia, which publishes Sirwe (from spring 1985), a quarterly cultural magazine that Hêmin ran until his death in 1986 [2]. The dialect of Mahabad, is adopted as the literary standard of Kurdish language in western Iran.(which is very close to the standard "sorani" used in Iraqi Kurdistan) Hedayts (talk) 00:50, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done I looked at the first few sources and all of them were dead in one way or another. Unless this can be properly verified with working sources it should not be added. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:06, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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