Talk:Scouting and Guiding in Ukraine

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Is Spilka Ukraïns'koï Molodi (СУМ) really Scouting?[edit]

After checking their websites, I think CYM is not a Scouting organization. Should we move this content to an article of its own? --jergen 13:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

There is some debate, some say it is, others say it is not. When I did my senior thesis in college in 1992, I counted SUM as a Scout organization. I say break it off, like Plast, and label it with the Scouting portal, see how it grows. It may even have its own article already. Chris 00:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
СУМ is a scouting organization similar to Plast. This article also needs internal links to СУМ and Plast added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.251.66.254 (talkcontribs) --jergen 08:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Any sources or only your opinion? The CYM-homepage doesn't mention any elements of the Scout method. I think this is an "ordinary" yoth organization and doesn't belong to the Scout movement.
An internal link to Plast exists, CYM doesn't have an article of its own, so why link it? --jergen 08:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
A second idea is to place it as a subsection of Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, what do you think? Chris 00:59, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

As a member of the organisation since my youth (10 years) i can confirm that the organisation is a scouting one - particularly in Ukraine and Canada. Nevertherless, it is fair to say that the organisation is affiliated to OUN. I think there should be an article for the organisation on its own (as it does on the Ukrainian version of Wikipedia) or it should have an extended section the OUN page. However, the OUN page seems to be frought with argument and political point-scoring. Ideas as to how to rectify this? Ukirednffc (talk) 12:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

If you can translate it, I will support and watch it. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 04:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Created. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 09:09, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

which organization?[edit]

Can anyone identify the coat of arms inside this File:Scouting and Guiding in Ukraine regional organization.png Scout logo? It is Ukrainian but clearly Russian-speaking. Chris 05:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 19:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Plastova Sich[edit]

The reference in the article "a national camp in their training and camping centre Plastova Sich in Canada.[12] Oleksander Tysovsky took part in this camp." - simply put this means they called their camp "the Plast fortress"

The only mention I can find on SIch is the mention in the letter introducing the PLast merge in 1996[1], where it says "Many groups, such as scouts of Dnipropetrowsk (Skif), Perekop (in Crimea), "Chysta Krynytsia", "Sich", etc have now formally or informally joined the Plast organization."

Chysta Krynytsia means Crystal well, Perekop is an area of the Crimea, Dnipropetrowsk is an area of Ukraine , and it seems to me that these titles are only for the individual groups of scouts of the PLast, like naming them "the Tiger troop" or "the Founding Fathers troop" or "the Minutemen troop".

thanks--Chaosdruid (talk) 05:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

PS - Here are some more links ! [2] [3] [4] [5]--Chaosdruid (talk)