Talk:Self-deportation

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Removed entry #1[edit]

I have removed the below entry from article page:

Polanski, however, was a legal immigrant.[citation needed]

If there is proof that Polanski was a legal immigrant, then prove it without such assumptions. --George Ho (talk) 07:47, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Added Post 911 Section[edit]

I added the post 911 section to describe the ethnic cleansing strategy that is currently being used to create undocumented immigrants that self deport after their transportation is illegally seized and sold at auction. I hope this finds everyone well.Nanoatzin (talk) 05:24, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Most of the sourcing in this section is from various primary sources and a read through them does not show support for what they are supposed to be referencing. In addition, there is significant content that has no reference at all and appears at best to be WP:SYNTH. In short I see absolutely no support at all for this section. See WP:RS. Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:01, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Original research[edit]

The recent addition of a section on post-911 is I believe original research, and I've raised it at WP:NORN#Self-deportation. Dougweller (talk) 12:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello Dougweller. The title of the article is "self-deportation", which has the following definition according to US law and policy: ... immigrant ... having departed voluntarily while under an order of removal (a “self-deport”) .... A "self deporter" is defined as a foreign citizen that left the country after a deportation order was issued (i.e.: subject to deportation after committing a crime like driving without a license, ...). Anyone that goes across any US border any other way is not applicable to the article. Voluntary movement of foreign citizens that are not subject to forcible deportation are not appropriate for inclusion in this article. People that are forcibly deported because they failed to obey a deportation order are not applicable to the article. People that cross the border without authorization are not applicable to the article. The article implies that "self deportation" involves "voluntary border crossing" but fails to mention that is an "urban legend" (or equivalent), which is an omission that makes the article sound racist, bigoted, and ignorant. That would be highly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. I am absolutely certain that was a mistake. Nobody would have done that on purpose. I'm trying to help by including the reason for the crimes that result in deportation orders - which needs to be included to eliminate the appearance of race bias in the article. That seems like a good idea to me. I hope this finds everyone well. Best regards.Nanoatzin (talk) 03:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
  • This looks like an anti-Mitt Romney WP:COATRACK and I'm tempted to just stub it and let someone who can be objective take a stab at or. Or merge it into something else or simply AFD it and see it deleted altogether. To have multiple mentions of Mitt Romney, someone who was a governor for what, a few years? Obviously this biased and is designed to smear one political party. I may have to do some serious trimming myself and again, send it off for AFD if it gets reverted back. Dennis Brown - © Join WER 17:06, 15 September 2012 (UTC)