Talk:Sexuality and disability
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Improving the article
[edit]Disability studies person here, I'm going to be working on this article but probably slowly. AlyHillary (talk) 04:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC) Awesome! I'm looking forward to see what you can make of it. I believe the late Laura Hershey wrote quite a bit on the topic (from a "queer crip" POV). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:46, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey there, I also will be working on the page. I am looking into Laura Hersheys work right now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatimaalkh (talk • contribs) 05:32, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
-The article draws many conclusions either from speculation or questionable sources. I listed the seemingly questionable sources in a separate section. The article also implies many things about worldviews on sex that are not supported (and likely incorrect) For example a sentence in the history section: "After much groundbreaking research, it was not until the 20th century that sex and pleasure became normalized." What groundbreaking research? What about subcultures or countries other than the US, or other periods of time that had more progressive views on sex? There are countless books and accounts that imply sex and pleasure were normalized before the 20th century. Other than the one source from the journal "Sex and Disability", there are no sources cited for this fact, or any of the other facts in this entire section.
-The section "self image" feels very out of place in an article centered around sexuality and disability, it would also be better to have "History" lead directly into "In contemporary society"
-The resources section is essentially an advice section which is not supposed to be on Wikipedia. The section would be better framed as something like "Education and counseling" There are numerous other sections and sentences that don't fit the tone or standards of Wikipedia.
-If anyone is able to take the time, I think this article needs to be rewritten with more attention to the style of Wikipedia, in which each section is a summation of facts and research, not just a paragraph that talks about the subject. Each fact should have a source, and if a single source lists many facts, it is probably not the original source. Always look for the original source in that case.
-I would suggest using the article "Sexuality_after_spinal_cord_injury" as a reference for what this article should look like after much improvement, there is already some overlap in content. Maybe as a start, write the article similarly to "Sexuality_in_older_age", it has a few of the same problems as this article (mostly with overly wordy sentences), but does a far better job at conveying a neutral tone, consistent with an encyclopedia. Edwardfd1 (talk) 08:08, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
The article focuses quite heavily on the US. It needs to represent a more worldwide view. American culture is not the default. Emerald fairies (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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"Queers"?
[edit]The "Queers with disabilities" section has several problems:
- Use of the word "queer" is problematic. It is an in-group term, just like "crip", and should not be used outside of that context and without explanation of the context. The LGBT community has worked for decades to popularize the use of "LGBT" by the general public, the same as disabled people have worked to deprecate "crippled" and "retarded", so please use acceptable mainstream terminology, rather than in-group slang.
- The section is based on a single source, rather than a balanced selection of sources offering a variety of viewpoints. It is also basically promoting two films, which could probably be cited as sources instead.
Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:54, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Interesting. I understood that the word "queer" had been reclaimed. Has something changed?--Auric talk 16:54, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, it has been reclaimed but as an in group term, the same as "crip", but not for general use. The word "nigger" is similar in that use by people who are not black is unacceptable. This website is a general encyclopedia, not queerpedia, so standard mainstream terminology is strongly preferred. Also see Queer#Controversial nature of the term. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:17, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, what term would you suggest then?--Auric talk 18:23, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, it has been reclaimed but as an in group term, the same as "crip", but not for general use. The word "nigger" is similar in that use by people who are not black is unacceptable. This website is a general encyclopedia, not queerpedia, so standard mainstream terminology is strongly preferred. Also see Queer#Controversial nature of the term. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:17, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I changed some of the instances of "queer" to "LGBT." I also re-wrote some of the sentences. I think this section of the article has great potential, but right now the structure might be holding it back. For instance, I wonder if the examples of disabled LGBT people in media really should be written as a bulleted list. Is there a page for disabled people in media? Is there a way to include a section on examples of specifically LGBT people within that hypothetical page that we could then link to in this section? I'm new here, by the way, so let me know if I'm doing things incorrectly. Thanks Squashbby (talk) 16:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Questionable references
[edit]-Source 2 is a news article used as a source for sexuality after disability, the "Sexuality_after_spinal_cord_injury" wiki article has numerous peer reviewed sources that support similar claims
-Source 3 is from a peer reviewed journal titles Sexuality and Disability, but many of the facts attributed to the article are questionable, and hard to support without more specific and relevant sources. For example the entire history section makes the broad claim that sex was only normalized after groundbreaking research in the 20th century. Does this source actually state that? And if so, maybe this is not a reliable source. Source 5 is a guide
-Source 11 is self described as "A Guide for Everyday Practice", although it may contain factual information, that information needs to be retrieved from the primary source, not a guide or memoir as this appears to be.
-Sources 10, 12, and 13 are from Disability Horizons, a magazine about living with disabilities, not a peer reviewed journal. This doesn't disqualify it as a source, but it is used to support factual information where a peer reviewed source would be preferred.
There are many other guides news articles,and memoirs referenced where peer reviewed journals should be the goal here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwardfd1 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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