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[edit]The content of this page was split off from Stereotypes of Asians as a separate subtopic. --Drenched 20:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Apu
[edit]This article needs to mention Apu Nahasapeemapetilon from the Simpsons, at least once. After all, the page about Western stereotypes of West and Central Asians mentions Borat several times. Hokie Tech (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC)Hokie Tech
More citation and expansion
[edit]I note that in comparison to the southeast asians article, this one is dreadfully small. Who's watchlisted this, and can we get a group together to crank out some content? ThuranX (talk) 13:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I think that the section Japanese views of Indians isn't well supported. The citation (currently 23, (Japanese)"NY niche Geki column" (Mag Mag) October 2, 2006 Keiko Tsukada, Yukiko Nakahachi) is essentially a woman's blog about an Indian student she met while studying in New York. Also, the article never states anything about engineers or doctors. The first part basically asks, "what do you tink of when you think of India?" And follows with what about... people good at English and numbers, curry, outsourcing from the US etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.253.190 (talk) 04:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Quotations and essay
[edit]I'll try to make it into something vaguely neutral...moving cut material over to Talk:Stereotypes of South Asians/Dumping ground. Moreschi (talk) 13:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Rename to Stereotypes of Indians
[edit]This is article is almost entirely about stereotypes of Indians. It would be reasonable to rename the article to Stereotypes of Indians for clarity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FonsScientiae (talk • contribs) 02:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
more to the point, the article is broken and uncencyclopedic. It should be a coherent presentation of literature about such stereotypes, but instead it seems people just use it as a dumping ground for what they perceive as examples. I suggest WP:TNT it and start over based on actual scholarly literature on ethnic stereotyping. Also, as you say, "South Asian" is far too wide a term. Naturally, "stereotypes" do not make fine distinctions between ethnic groups, but there are distinct sets of stereotypes on, at least, Muslim Pakistanis, Hindus and Sikhs. Needless to say, these groups also mutually hold stereotypes of one another. Indian politics is basically a big pile of such stereotypes, Muslim vs. Hindu, Indo-Aryan vs. Dravidian, etc., but that's not really the topic here. --dab (𒁳) 07:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Stereotypes of South Asians
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Stereotypes of South Asians's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Fisher":
- From Miscegenation: Fisher, Michael Herbert (2006). Counterflows to Colonialism. Orient Blackswan. ISBN 81-7824-154-4.
- From British Pakistanis: Fisher, Michael Herbert (2006). Counterflows to Colonialism: Indian Traveller and Settler in Britain 1600–1857. Orient Blackswan. pp. 111–9, 129–30, 140, 154–6, 160–8, 172. ISBN 81-7824-154-4.
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: CS1 maint: postscript (link) - From Barack Obama: Fisher, Daniel (August 11, 2008). "November Election A Lawyer's Delight". Forbes. Retrieved January 11, 2009.
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[edit]The article is relevant to the topic because it gave background information, main ideas, and major historic events and demographics lead up to the topic. There is an equal distribution between where these stereotypes of South Asians happen and overall accurate emphasis on how the topic circulates among population and reasons to why it happens. There was a part of the article where I was distracted and it was the 'Sexual Jealousy' heading. There is a source tied with the heading, but the editor should have been more clear and concise on how that heading had to do with the topic instead of quoting the source.
All information presented in this article are seen to be neutral to me. Even though the topic consists of 'stereotypes' there were loads of appropriate ways of interpreting information that consisted other races or ethnic groups views on South Asians. Since the article is primarily based on South Asians, there was only information about stereotype against them instead a bias. Ayasin 4 (talk) 15:13, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Why is there no racism article of South Asians (Indians) article and shouldn't this article be merged into such?
[edit]Sorry I am little disappointed and perturbed by the denoting the stereotypes of Indians aka South Asians which is basically it's colloquial eponym. But shouldn't that be a significant and important article in addressing separately or concordantly with stereotypes which would fall under racism? Just my thoughts. But it sadly seems out of a billion indians in the world that none feel the priority or necessity in addressing and rectifying the subject. And in my opinion will always give way and cause into the culturally engrained superiority of the Aryan/Anglo-Saxon civilization's preferred norms, values and also ironically prejudices against out-groups such as South Asians. In which they have substantially shaped the history of the country until the present with basically from my understanding of others exploiting the continent and its resources and leaving it in a state of divided territories and inflaming tensions between religions which were previously able to co-exist peacefully and not become enemies and forget about the ones who conquered and owned their country. Sorry this is just a bit of me grieving and venting, but I think if there isn't one, racism about South Asians should be made an article. As there is ample evidence but hard to locate scholarly resources on the subject. Thanks for your consideration and time for something I feel is important and deserves credence and importance to a large group of individuals it applies to.
Change the article to Stereotypes of Asians
[edit]Changing the article to Stereotypes of Asians gives a wider scope, like inclusion of Japanese stereotypes that exist. Available reference: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0016549299061003008 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.4.26.61 (talk) 04:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Something being "more likely" is not a stereotype
[edit]As seen in the first section of "Region-specific stereotypes -> Great Britain and English-speaking territories -> Cultural stereotypes" : "[...] more likely to be in poverty,[63] more likely to be in prison,[64] and more likely to be less educated ..."
As per Wikipiedia's own definition of a stereotype, a stereotype is "an over-generalized belief about a particular category of people" and "an expectation that people might have about every person of a particular group [...]".
Thus when you deem people from a specific population as being more likely to show some characteristic trait or another, like being more likely to come from a lower income social strata, more likely to adhere to a specific religious tradition, or more likely to be marginalized and resort to criminal behavior to ascend the social ladder etc. etc. you are not stating a stereotype but your own assessment of a social trend.
Your assessment may be spot on or very wrong and ill-considered, but in any case it only becomes a stereotype if you expect every person from that group to present said trait. Otherwise about any kind of assessment made about any trait from any group can be deemed a stereotype. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB05:8281:5600:E5D9:4F2B:E7A6:CE57 (talk) 15:26, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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