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Requested move 21 January 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 06:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Suburban multiple unitSuburban Multiple Unit – Currently the Queensland Rail rolling stock articles are named in a combination of upper and lower case format. Official name per operator Queensland Rail is to capitalise all words (Suburban Multiple Unit) vs (Suburban multiple unit) [1] while many secondary sources use the SMU acronym.

The Manual of style section on trademarks states editors should choose among styles already in common use (not invent new ones) and, among those, use the style that most closely resembles standard English text formatting and capitalization rules. Can't find any examples of Suburban multiple unit being used other than on Wikipedia, so propose article be renamed Suburban Multiple Unit. Primetime44 (talk) 05:47, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose per MOS:CAPS and per WP:CONSISTENT with other similar articles, especially the obvious Electric multiple unit. This is a class of things, not a thing, so this is a common-noun phrase not a proper name. Cf. all the zillion prior RMs of ocean vessel classes, music genres, roadway types, non-trademarked sports and games and dances (and classes thereof), etc., etc., etc. The fact than an "official" source prefers to capitalize is meaningless (this is almost always the case is in the bureaucratese of government agencies/ministries, and in the marketing-style materials of manufacturers; both styles rampantly overcapitalize for emphasis, which is against the first rule of MOS:CAPS. It simply isn't an encyclopedic writing style. And there isn't anything magically special about Queensland. PS: No, do not use "mixed" case; this should appear as "suburban multiple unit" in mid-sentence, not "Suburban multiple unit". — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  08:42, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per SMcCandlish, who nails it. Tony (talk) 09:22, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per MOS:CAPS and WP:CONSISTENT per the reasoning of SmCandlish. Coastie43 (talk) 01:53, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Completely at odds with MOS:CAPS. Shem (talk) 21:56, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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