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Consistency[edit]

Please ensure that this article remains consistent in the use of BCE/CE as a dating convention so that others may not change to BC/AD. Editors wishing to comment on this issue are welcome to do so. SouthernComfort 12:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Worth noting that this article started out life as a BC/AD article. On that basis, it should be a BC/AD article. Greenshed 18:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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Names[edit]

  • I have the surname "deSousa," Portuguese lineage, and wonder if Susa (Iran) or Susse (Tunisia) is the referent of this name. Pdesousa 15:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Paul J. deSousa
  • Does the girl's name 'Susan' come from Susa? How about the word 'suzerain', or 'suzerainty' (sovereign)? Also, the Parthian Empire's name sounds like a lisping way of pronouncing 'Persia'. (Oct.)
Susan and Susa are not related. Susa in Persian is "Shushiana" or "Shush".
The name Parthia is "Part haa" in Persian. Not related.--Zereshk 19:23, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Does the girl's name 'Susan' come from Susa? How about the word 'suzerain', or 'suzerainty' (sovereign)? Also, the Parthian Empire's name sounds like a lisping way of pronouncing 'Persia'. (Oct.) Susan and Susa are not related. Susa in Persian is "Shushiana" or "Shush". The name Parthia is "Part haa" in Persian. Not related.--Zereshk 19:23, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Susan is indeed derived from Shushan and in turn from Inshushinak, the name of the patron diety of Susa. A plance very close to Susa is also called "Susan-gerd", meaning the fortress of Susan. Parthia is derived from 'Parthaw', the name of an Indo-Iranian tribe whose heartland was rigianlly near Ashkabad in present-day Turkmenistan. The Parthians have had close links with Persians (another tribe with similar ethnic backgrounds) in historical times. The names Parthaw and Parsa might have been related origianlly, but in modern terms they refer to totally differnet peoples. --~Tissa

The note on the Greek form of Susa seems to be in error. In neither the Middle Liddel and Scott nor the full version of the dictionary is it given as a name for Susa. In fact, it seems to be merely an adjective formed from the name Seleucus, and therefore might be a Hellenistic adjective ascribed to the city as relating to the ruling dynasty of Seleucus. What is absolutely certain is that the Greek form of Susa is Σουσα (Sousa). Alexaion (talk) 01:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

The Picture of the Ashurbanipal relief depicts Hamanu not Susa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by El Giggi (talkcontribs) 12:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

fixes[edit]

I made some basic changes to clean up all the garbage that has accumulated in this article. I think we can use the sumer city articles as a guideline to write this one

  • grouped history section by theme and date
  • moved location info from modern to lead-in
  • temp. storage of images in gallery until we can get a good text to image ratio
  • replaced map with more relevant map from elam article stored the old one here
Susa is located in Iran
Susa
Susa
The city of Susa is identified on this map

--Gurdjieff (talk) 07:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I didn't think that was any improvement, so I went back to the old layout. If the section is titled "history" why do we need to start of with "literature" and then only talk about history in the 3rd paragraph? Surely keeping it in chronological order would be more logical. And what is with the super-long quote in praise of Ahura Mazda? I can see maybe quoting the lines that mention Susa, but the whole thing? Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 18:50, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

lets not undo EVERYTHING because of a few minor issuses ok? please? have u looked at the articles on cities in Sumer? I dislike when biblical history is mixed in with real history so I refer to it as literature, from a Historiography POV the biblical refs to Susa precede the ones by the euro expeditions therefore they are cited first.--Gurdjieff (talk) 12:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Bible reference[edit]

What about mentioning the references to the city in the old bible? It was referenced in Daniel, Nehemiah, and Book of Esther... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aviadbd (talkcontribs) 18:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

good point145.93.148.29 (talk) 12:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

ANE wikiproject feedback[edit]

Looks good Colin. Nice addition to the Susa page. Sara — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slfitzpa (talkcontribs) 03:10, 9 May 2013 (UTC)