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Did you know... that in the 1970s, Coors Brewing Company owned Television News Inc., which provided newsfilm to North American TV stations?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in the 1970s, Coors Brewing Company owned Television News Inc., which provided newsfilm to North American TV stations? Source: (various)
- ALT1: ... that Joseph Coors's refusal to resign from Television News Inc. derailed his 1975 nomination to the board of the U.S. Corporation for Public Broadcasting? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/95632611/panel-refuses-broadcast-post-to-coors/
- ALT2: ... that two decades before starting Fox News, Roger Ailes served as the vice president of news operations for Television News Inc., a syndicated service for local TV stations? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1975/01/10/archives/tv-news-service-to-transmit-materials-by-satellite-salvation-for.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dawnus
- Comment: A lot of possible hooks, depending on the angle you want to go.

Created by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Hooks are all fine and are supported in the article. I think ALT0 and ALT1 are more interesting, but ALT2 would be fine as well. Article is new enough, long enough, and properly sourced. I did some spot-checks and found no copyvio. QPQ done. Hog Farm _Talk 15:37, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 03:06, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gonna disclaim before starting my review that my knowledge of journalism itself is pretty limited, but nevertheless I hope that I can give this article a fair review and I am excited to learn! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 03:06, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I believe that is all. This article is genuinely fantastically written, and it turned out to be a pretty fascinating read. Thanks for writing it! I will put it on hold for a week but I doubt we will need that much time seeing as this should be a quick fix. Please ping me once you have addressed my concerns fully so that I may know when to respond. If you wish to respectfully disagree with any of my points please do so—I reckon we can work it out. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 03:11, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
All my concerns have been addressed and I am now happy to pass this for GA status. Congrats! Thanks for the fast response, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 04:23, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check

Earwig says good to go. Quotations are properly attributed and usable per WP:COPYQUOTE.

Files

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Prose

"with Robert Pauley as its chief executive and $4 million in initial capital, most from Coors. Pauley had pitched the idea to Joseph Coors" – Coors and the wikilinked Joseph Coors should be switched.

Not here because the Coors Brewing Company is the first reference and Joseph Coors is the second reference.

Noted; my bad!

"The first customer was Miami's WCIX-TV, which was in the middle of expanding its local news service; the check from the Miami station was framed at the network's offices." — I do not think a semicolon is necessary here; IMO using a period here instead makes more sense.

It's not important enough imo for a standalone sentence.

Fair enough.

"What set TVN apart from its competitors—the major networks—was" – could there be any more elaboration on what these major networks are?

Added an appropriate link.

"This was a bleeding-edge proposal for its time" – I could be wrong but bleeding-edge sounds rather unencyclopaedic, or at least I have not seen it used on Wikipedia before. Are there perhaps any alternative words to describe this?

It might be too much in most cases, but here, I think the sources support this characterization. In 1975, satellites were not being used for the regular delivery of television programming, and very few if any local stations had satellite dishes of their own to receive them. If TVN had been able to carry this out in the way it hoped, it would have brought forward by several years significant changes in the way television programming was distributed to local stations.

I was unfamiliar with bleeding-edge initially but see now that it is appropriate jargon in this context. Thanks for the explanation!

"A Coors assistant, Jack G. Wilson" – sounds strange to me; recommend changing to "An assistant of Coors, Jack G. Wilson"
"Coors told him, "No, I will not", citing his fiduciary duty to Coors stockholders." – This quote seems unnecessary as it is generic. It could be replaced simply with "Coors refused, citing … "
"On September 29, 1975," – the last date we are given is "That September" so I doubt the year is necessary?
"particularly its connection with Ailes in light of later projects such as Fox News Channel." – I am not familiar with the naming of TV stations but I reckon it is missing a the?

In this case, no.

Noted.

Other items modified. Pinging LunaEatsTuna. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

The references I spot checked are good and support the article's content. I have access to ProQuest via the Wikipedia Library.

Other

Categories look alright. Not required but I recommend adding Template:Use American English in order to denote its spelling variants.

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