Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)

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Need citation for Angoulême International Comics Festival[edit]

I went through the Critical Reception section and added citations to everything except the Angoulême International Comics Festival award, which I couldn't find a reference for. If anyone knows where to find this, please add to finish up this section. Sutematsu (talk) 00:22, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect Speculation on Series Ending[edit]

This unsourced line is not only speculative, but also appears to be incorrect: "Gaiman's contract stipulated that the series would end when he left it."

In the interview in Prince of Stories, Gaiman says that he first suggested to DC ending the comic at the end of his run around issue #22 or #23. He was rebuffed. It wasn't until around issue #60ish that Karen Berger agreed to end the comic when Gaiman was done. See pages 478-479. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.159.220.52 (talk) 01:40, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Article's Title[edit]

The comic series is not and was not called 'The Sandman.' It's simply 'Sandman.' Every volume ever released by Vertigo or DC has been under this title. Even the images on this very Wikipedia page indicate this. The title should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.204.65.7 (talk) 18:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Not true. Every cover has a little "The" above the big "Sandman". --Nicknack009 (talk) 19:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Yep. This should visually clear things up. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 13:46, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

New source about how Sandman was created by Gaiman[edit]

That can be found from this RS. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 13:45, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Need more bulk to Critical reception[edit]

The article looks really great and well-referenced, and I believe its almost eligible for GA nomination someday. But the critical reception needs more content. I think it's too short, and we should write the comic book's overall commercial sales and other critic's opinion on it rather than just depend on the awards.Bulls123 (talk) 17:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Which graphic novel?[edit]

The intro section says "In 2013, Warner Bros. Studios announced that David S. Goyer will be producing an adaptation of the graphic novel, with Joseph Gordon-Levitt.[5]". Which graphic novel does it refer to? There are at least ten in the series. The cite doesn't say anything about the matter (or about it being from a graphic novel at all). Either way, it probably shouldn't use the term "the graphic novel" which implies there is only one. Thanks. :) --Irrevenant [ talk ] 07:23, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 17:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC)


Appears to be a solid article. I'll leave some initial comments within a day Jaguar 17:18, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

  • Just a question, in "Further reading", why refer only to the Preface of The Sandman Papers? It is a book of literary essays on The Sandman and seems all the essays would be relevant and informative on the subject. maclean (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
  • To be honest I have no idea, maybe that's a question for the nominator? Jaguar 22:06, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:


Initial comments[edit]

  • "Artists include Sam Kieth, Mike Dringenberg, Jill Thompson, Shawn McManus, Marc Hempel, and Michael Zulli" - be careful of over-mentioning and WP:OVERLINKING straight up in the lead. This should only include all the 'crucial' editors rather than a full list of staff credits
  • "It ran for 75 issues from January 1989 to March 1996" - the infobox says that two new publications existed in 2009 and from 2013?
  • "The Sandman is a story about stories and how Morpheus, the Lord of Dreams" - wait, is Morpheus still Dream? Seems confusing that he is two different names
  • "in a black-and-white Annotated edition" - why is Annotated italicised?
  • The lead is missing important chunks of information from the article, so this doesn't comply per the WP:LEAD at this present time. More specifically, it has no reception paragraph (what critics thought of it). This can be achieved by shifting content around
  • Some red links in the Creation section. If the people aren't significant, unlink!
  • The fifth paragraph in the Original series section is just a huge list of people, going against WP:OVERLINKING. It wouldn't hurt to cut down or remove entirely
  • Summary section completely unreferenced
  • Please make sure every paragraph in the Collected editions has a citation
  • I think the bullet points in the The Sandman library section can split through this GAN, but is it necessary to include the ISBN numbers in prose? Seems a bit listy
  • "It has been announced that David S. Goyer will be producing an adaptation of the graphic novel," - weasel words, and when was this announced?
  • The Television section should be in prose and not bullet points

References[edit]

On hold[edit]

Sorry for the delay. This appears to be a solid article so it wouldn't take much of a job to push this up to a GA standard. All I see her are a few prose problems and the lead is missing information - so it shouldn't be too difficult. I'll leave this on hold for seven days for you. Jaguar 22:06, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Re: Fixed some stuffs. Hope it's enough. Anything else?Bulls123 (talk) 15:29, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

That's looking good, thanks for your improvements. I think we're good to promote this Good article Jaguar 17:15, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

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