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Gulf of Aden, 2014

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Is this the same ship? Mjroots (talk) 17:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. This is the only ship in the Ukrainian Navy that could participate in long-range anti-piracy ops.71.178.200.38 (talk) 09:13, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 27 January 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 16:22, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian frigate Hetman Sahaydachniy → Ukrainian frigate Hetman Sahaidachny – Change from a non-systematic romanization to one derived by an established system from the native Ukrainian name (per WP:TRANSLITERATE), and still a commonly used spelling (WP:COMMONNAME). This is also consistent with the eponym’s article title Petro Konashevych-Sahaidachny.

Search results in Google Advanced Book Search:

  1. frigate "Hetman Sahaidachny" -Wikipedia 26 (corresponds to modified LOC romanization of Ukrainian)
  2. frigate "Hetman Sahaydachniy" -Wikipedia 26 (non-systematic romanization)
  3. frigate "Hetman Sagaidachny" -Wikipedia 24 (modified LOC romanization of Russian)
  4. frigate "Hetman Sahaydachny" -Wikipedia 12 (BGN-PCGN romanization of Ukrainian w/simplified ending)
  5. frigate "Hetman Sahaydachnyy" -Wikipedia 5 (BGN-PCGN romanization of Ukrainian)
  6. frigate "Hetman Sahaidachnyi" -Wikipedia 3 (standard Ukrainian romanization, suggested by WP:UKR)
  7. frigate "Hetman Sagaidachniy" -Wikipedia 1
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 —Michael Z. 22:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also found 7 results for a proper romanization from Russian frigate "Getman Sagaidachny" -Wikipedia, and zero or one for other versions. —Michael Z. 18:42, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Reported Scuttled

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Pravda reported on February 27th that the ship was scuttled in Ukrainian territorial waters. Can we actually cite this in good faith in the article, considering that Pravda is a Russian newspaper? Kai2004 (talk) 08:01, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've added this in now that there are pictures, but kept the "reportedly" in the meantime. 38.92.34.46 (talk) 20:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You still have to provide citation for the earlier date - "reportedly" without saying by whom is not acceptable. Davidships (talk) 19:20, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ilenart626 Noted your added ref, unfortunately behind a paywall for me. Can you confirm that it clearly confirms a date for the scuttling? Davidships (talk) 22:34, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Could not confirm the date scuttled, so temoved the February date. Looks like their are enough references out their, particularly the Ukraine Defence Minister. Note that I have also updated the brief comment on the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine page. Ilenart626 (talk) 00:10, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Telegraph has it: It was in Mykolaiv that the Hetman Sahaidachny, Ukraine’s 30-year-old flagship frigate, was scuttled on the first day of the war in order to save it from falling into enemy hands.[1] The scuttling is adopted by the author, not attributed. Solipsism 101 (talk) 21:53, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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