Talk:Waltheof of Melrose

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 05:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Waltheof → Waltheof of Melrose — This is not he most famous Waltheof, so the title is illogical and the destination of unexpected. Waltheof II, Earl of Northumbria, is a better candidate for this honour. I also propose moving Waltheof (disambiguation) to this title. This requires the fixing of many links. — Srnec (talk) 02:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Support - fine with me. I generally think of the earl first too. Ealdgyth - Talk 02:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Xn4 (talk) 16:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Walteof of Melrose is fine. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 04:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

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Ancestry

Hello, I have an idea to add his ancestry:

Ancestors of Saint Waltheof of Melrose (c. 1095–1159)^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]

4. Laudri de Senlis,^[5] sire of Chantilly and Ermenonville

2. Simon I de Senlis, Earl of Huntingdon-Northampton^[2]^[5]

5. Ermengarda^[5]

1. Saint Waltheof of Melrose^[2]^[5]

24. Bjorn Estridsen?

12. Siward of Northumbria^[8]

6. Waltheof of Northumbria^[2]^[7]

26. Ealdred II of Bamburgh

13. Ælfflaed

3. Maud of Huntingdon^[2]^[5]^[6]

28. Eustace I of Boulogne

14. Lambert II of Lens

29. Maud of Louvain

7. Judith of Lens^[2]^[7]

30. Robert I of Normandy^[2]

15. Adelaide of Normandy^[2]

31. Herleva of Falaise?

Sources:

Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage. 1934
Oram, Richard; David: The King Who Made Scotland, (Gloucestershire, 2004).
Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals 2008. ISBN 0806317523, ISBN 9780806317526
Matthew Strickland, 'Senlis, Simon I de, earl of Northampton and earl of Huntingdon (d. 1111x13)', Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004

Additional source:

Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings.

Dmitry Azikov (talk) 21:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
^ F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 102–103, 161–162
^ Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings and England, anglo-saxon and danish Kings
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e Matthew Strickland, 'Senlis, Simon I de, earl of Northampton and earl of Huntingdon
^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 147
^ ^a ^b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 102
^ Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161

[<1-1] A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48

[<2-2] ^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

[3] F. Weis, W. Sheppard, W. Beall, K. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 102–103, 161–162

[<7-4] Foundation of medieval genealogy: Scotland, kings and England, anglo-saxon and danish Kings

[<Strickland-5] Matthew Strickland, 'Senlis, Simon I de, earl of Northampton and earl of Huntingdon

[6] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 147

[<8-7] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 102

[<5-8] Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161

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