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See also: Talk:History of Western Australia and Talk:Perth, Western Australia


Dams in WA[edit]

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Year of establishment[edit]

This edit puts Western Australia into Category:1829 establishments in Australia - the year the Swan River Colony was started - which is consistent with History of Western Australia. However a settlement was established in King George Sound (now Albany, Western Australia) in 1826 specifically for the purposes of claiming the rest of the continent (to stop the French from doing it), so why is the state not deemed to have been established in 1826? Why was the state not deemed to be established until the Swan River Colony in 1829? Is there some legal distinction between a "settlement" and a "colony"? Is it because the Albany settlement was purely a penal settlement with no free settlers? Mitch Ames (talk) 01:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

You have answered your own question JarrahTree 01:13, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Which is it? "Legal distinction between settlement/colony" or "we don't count crims"? A slightly more comprehensive answer would assist my understanding. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
My understanding is that it is because the Albany settlement was under the control of the NSW government, whilst the 1829 colony was independent. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:24, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
sounds good JarrahTree 02:56, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok, so I think I have found the answer - Stirling was acting under a British Act of Parliament when he established the colony. On the other hand, the consitutional centre's website calls Albany a military outpost.
Interestingly, I have found that this page has the unsourced statement: "21 January 1827 – Western Australia was established when a small British settlement was established at King George's Sound (Albany) by Major Edmund Lockyer who was to provide a deterrent to the French presence in the area." However, external sources such as this do not even mention the earlier settlement, so I think the History of Australia (1788-1850) article should be fixed. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 03:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Western Australian state song[edit]

Western Australia has an unofficial state anthem. This is called "Western Australia for me". It dates from 1831, and was sung by George Fletcher Moore at the First Governor's Ball in 1831. See references at http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2010/04/13/2871828.htm and https://membership.wags.org.au/swan-river-pioneers-1829-1838-mainmenu-57/256-western-australia-for-me-srp. The article needs to be updated to include the state song in the Info Box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.149.192.132 (talk) 08:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


Environmental section[edit]

I propose that a section be created which is specifically about environmental issues in Western Australia (and a similar one for Queensland). I was about to add sentences about the impacts mining and deforestation have had in Queensland and Western Australia (including their impact on aboriginal peoples), but after the reverts I decided not to, at least without discussing it first. Currently the QLD and WA articles do not really mentioning anything having to do with environmental issues (such as the bleaching of coral caused by human activity). The shark issue could occupy one sentence each in each of the proposed sections about environmental issues. LumaP15 (talk) 01:16, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I suggest you start new articles rather than expand this one. Looking at your reverts it seems you have some issues with WP:SOAPBOX and WP:NPOV - these won't just go away. Good luck! John beta (talk) 06:47, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps a better approach would be to add state-specific sections to Environmental issues in Australia. Is there really enough material for a new article for each state?
I agree with John beta that LumaP15's edits (now-reverted, [1][2][3][4]) don't appear as neutral as they ought to be. Once we work out where to put the material, we'll need to ensure that it is more neutrally worded. Mitch Ames (talk) 07:15, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
It wouldn't be a new article for each state, it would be a paragraph or less in each state's article briefly discussing environmental issues in that state. For example, Western Australia's article could be have a section with a paragraph or less describing mining issues, degradation of aboriginal lands, drum lines, deforestation, etc.
The Environmental issues in Australia article covers the entire country, whereas individual sections in each state's article would be only about those state's issues. LumaP15 (talk) 08:53, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
If the issues are state-specific, this makes sense, but I suspect that most issues are not state-specific. For example I think Environmental issues in Australia § Shark culling is better than individual descriptions in each state's article. But there's no harm in creating Western Australia § Environmental issues and Queensland § Environmental issues. The contents can always be moved/merged elsewhere later if appropriate. But what about the other states? Do they have similar sections? Should they? Mitch Ames (talk) 09:12, 27 November 2016 (UTC)