Talk:Western Australia Roller Derby

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Vector.Ward (talk) 03:42, 14 January 2012 (UTC): There are some images missing; I'll add these when my account is old enough to be able to upload images.

Vector.Ward (talk) 08:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC): Thanks to amandaellis for upload the images.

References Criticisms[edit]

Vector.Ward (talk) 01:29, 16 January 2012 (UTC): I have inserted references from an independent national Australian broadcaster (ABC News, their Kalgoorlie desk), a News Limited publication (Sunday Times, known as PerthNow on the web) which is Perth's ONLY Sunday paper, and Western Australia's ONLY weekday newspaper (The West Australian). I am arguing that these are very independent; I would go so far as to say that if these are not considered independent sources, then it is impossible to create a page on wikipedia for a topic worth of inclusion, but nevertheless primarily focused on the region of Western Australia. I am also still working on the article.


the query is about notability not references. There are 100s of stories in major papers everyday that aren't notable enough for articles. Will results be published? Changes in team personnel? I doubt it. It is simply not a notable sport/league in WA. The-Pope (talk) 02:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Those 100s of stories are typically about topics completely independent of each other; Western Australia Roller Derby and rollerderby in WA more generally receives significant, independent coverage during its season, thus fulfilling the primary criteria for wikipedia notability. Vector.Ward (talk) 03:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Other sources[edit]

Speed dome packed for interstate derby clash, Southern Gazette (Perth, Australia) - Tuesday, July 26, 2011.Edition: 1, Page: 050, Record Number: CSG_T-20110726-050-150060. Article says it was the state's first interstate match against the Melbournes South Sea Sirens with a score of Sirens 132 to WARDs 80. Article is all about this match and the team.--LauraHale (talk) 08:50, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Soozie skates way out of suburbia, Mandurah Coastal Times (Australia) - Wednesday, September 7, 2011. Edition: 1. Page: 062. Article talks about WARD member Soozie Slugworth. Finishes with "The next WA Roller Derby ( WARD ) match is Block to the Future on October 8 at Midvale Speed Dome. " and another sentence about roller derby in general. --LauraHale (talk) 08:52, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Mother of two an Ang, Weekend Courier (Perth, Australia) - Friday, August 5, 2011, Edition: 1, Page: 095. Article talks about Dr Angela Thomas-Jones, known as Ang El Grinder, who skates in the league. --LauraHale (talk) 08:56, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Not going to summarise but the following are other sources that can be used in this article:

  • Packed Speed Dome crowd enjoys first interstate Roller Derby, Guardian Express (Perth, Australia) - July 19, 2011, Length: 147 words (Estimated printed pages: 1)
  • Interstate bout a Roller Derby sellout, Canning Times (Perth, Australia) - July 19, 2011, Length: 184 words (Estimated printed pages: 1)
  • Sandgropers kept beached, Fremantle-Cockburn Gazette (Perth, Australia) - July 19, 2011, Length: 109 words (Estimated printed pages: 1)
  • Big crowd cheers on all-star stoush, Midland-Kalamunda Reporter (Perth, Australia) - July 19, 2011, Length: 183 words (Estimated printed pages: 1)
  • Sirens ward off All Stars, Wanneroo Times (Perth, Australia) - July 19, 2011, Length: 48 words (Estimated printed pages: 1)
  • New players sought for roller derby, Mandurah Coastal Times (Australia) - July 6, 2011, Length: 56 words (Estimated printed pages: 1)

There are another 20 or so similar newspapers from Australia that mention the team.--LauraHale (talk) 09:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)