Talk:Wigan Pier

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The way we were

I was in Wigan today, and managed a quick glimpse of the area around the pier. A taxi driver said "The Way We Were" is now permanently closed - can anyone verify this? Shame if it is, as I'm sure it was a major attraction to the area. regards, Lynbarn (talk) 00:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I heard the same too. Darkieboy236 (talk) 09:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Closed to the public on the 20th December 2007.[1] --Sturm 12:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was there in September (by boat), a sad sight. Windows boarded up and looking delapidated. Looked through main door - nothing at all inside. Ronhjones (talk) 22:42, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Future

Would anyone like to confirm which parts of this section are true, and which parts just an illiterate rant? If nothing is forthcoming I intend to delete all unverified material in the section. Skinsmoke (talk) 13:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are so many stories, by so many people, relating to anything about Wigan that it is almost impossible to hit on any true facts. The place is inundated with myths about anything and everything and the vast majority of these are, as you put it, 'illiterate rants'. The problem with these myths is that they are taught to local children in schools and are also promoted as 'marketing' by the local council. In the words of the 'Wigan Archaeological Society' - "Some things may not be true, but it's fun to speculate". Which is typical of the brainless lot who promote these 'Wigan Myths'. 92.239.71.235 (talk) 18:50, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of illiterate rants...

Although Orwell states he was in 'the dreadful environs of Wigan', on analysis he must have been outskirts of Wigan, looking in, as there has never been any 'slag heaps' in Wigan. Neither has there been any 'flashes' caused by coal mining subsidence. Yes, Wigan contained factories, 'sending out their plumes of smoke' which Orwell could see through the 'passes' in the slag heaps, but the slag heaps and flashes were located in coal mining towns nearby, not in Wigan.

Then he says "... as far as the slag-heaps in the distance, stretched the ‘flashes’", which again shows his position to have been quite a way from Wigan, probably somewhere along the Leigh Branch of the Leeds Liverpool Canal.

Another classy unreferenced addition Jemmy.Koncorde (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categorisation

@Dr Greg: Fair call - whether or not Wigan is in Lancs (as it still is AFAIC), Wigan Pier has never exactly been a pleasure spot unlike the others I moved into Category:Piers in Lancashire and suchlike. It's a mild oddity, and the broad category Category:Piers in England could well be the best place for it. Narky Blert (talk) 02:21, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Humorous? Orwellian?

To whom does the name have "humorous or ironic connotations since it conjures an image of a seaside pleasure pier"? No source. If it conjures up anything to anyone not living there it would surely be Orwell, and there's nothing funny about that. Speaking of Orwell, the entry refers to an "Orwellian link" when it just means a link to Orwell. "Orwellian" is something altogether different. Nicmart (talk) 05:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Check the entire second paragraph of the History section. Largoplazo (talk) 12:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]