Talk:WrestleMania 36

Fix something plz

At the match table I’m trying to put the citation (reference) next to the match but it’s accidentally under the table so if you could put it next to the stipulation of Brock and Drew that'd Be great it’s reference 18 MikeyWiki07 (talk) 21:14, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Its fake Just Google wrestlemania and it will say 5 April Jjbeno (talk) 17:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Natalya vs Liv Morgan and Drew Gulak vs Cesaro is on the pre show DanielMc100 (talk) 16:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Poster

Who removed the official poster? Please put it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.72.173 (talk) 23:47, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Theme song

Add theme song of WrestleMania 36 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights Punk.believer (talk) 08:29, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

The theme song parameter was removed last February. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:53, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Fix plz sorry

Sorry, I made a mistake with the match table. Plz fix I’m sorry, I was fixing a match somebody put that wasn’t confirmed. MikeyWiki07 (talk) 01:59, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

WrestleMania in June?

When did WWE confirm this? It's not mentioned anywhere on wwe.com or on corporate.wwe.com Can someone please provide evidence that a legit source from WWE has confirmed this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.80.152 (talk) 17:18, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

It is absolutely not confirmed at all, has no legitimate sources, and is a bullshit rumor that should be corrected immediately. Especially considering WWE themselves confirmed WrestleMania will take place in the Performance Center in Orlando literally yesterday 64.130.173.96 (talk) 17:36, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

It's not confirmed by WWE, or any reliable source for that matter. There's currently rumor from a couple of iffy sources that Orlando could cancel WrestleMania at the Performance Center, which would allow WWE to claim insurance for trying all options to host the show (so they wouldn't lose as much money), and then they could reschedule it for June, reportedly at Madison Square Garden. Again, this is just rumor right now from not so reliable sources. --JDC808 ♫ 00:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Edge vs Orton - Last Man Standing match

I've noticed the Match table does not include this match. However, this match has indeed been confirmed by WWE. Any reason why it's not included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.126.187 (talk) 12:22, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

It's actually not listed as a confirmed match yet. Will probably get the green light on Monday. --JDC808 ♫ 13:29, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Another Match

Edge announced that he will face Randy at Mania Last man standing. Sassou5588 (talk) 15:19, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Although it's like 99% going to happen, it has not been officially confirmed yet. There was literally a post right above this one about this. --JDC808 ♫ 02:27, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

King Corbin Vs Elias?

Should it be added? The Awesome Guy in the world (talk) 20:16, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Source? JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:10, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Remove Roman

As of now Roman Reigns will not Face Goldberg and will be replaced can we have Goldberg (c) vs TBD ZebraDX3.1 (talk) 04:47, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

No, it is just a report. WWE have not confirmed it yet. The report is notated in the article in their storyline description, but as of right now, the match from WWE.com is still Goldberg (c) vs. Roman Reigns. Until we get definitive confirmation, that is what remains on the article. --JDC808 ♫ 05:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Otis VS Dolph Ziggler

On Smack Down Otis and Ziggler announced that Match why is it still not listed? Talgus2002 (talk) 12:30, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

It should be added over the next couple of days MrWrestleFixIt (talk) 20:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Roman Reigns dropped out of the Universal Title match?

I’m still confused if this is true or not. Jimmyy68 (talk) 22:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the internet. None of us know for sure as it has not been confirmed by WWE or even Reigns himself. --JDC808 ♫ 03:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

he confirmed it on instagramMuur (talk) 03:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Which has been added to the article. --JDC808 ♫ 07:56, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Women's "World Titles"

Just curious why those matches aren't in the "world championship matches" section. D4S (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2020

Add more storylines AneesMUPS (talk) 06:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ActuallyTheFakeJTP ^{(talk • contribs)}_{(April Fools!)} 07:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Just so it's clear for AneesMUPS, only the main storylines are on the article. If we put something for every single match on the card, there would be too much information. There's also no storyline to a couple of the matches. --JDC808 ♫ 12:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

New opponent for Goldberg

So, when are we going to change Roman Reigns for Goldberg's new opponent since Reigns' dropped out of the match schedule due to health concerns revolving around COVID-19? Stephen"Zap" (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Probably after SmackDown airs and is officially confirmed by WWE. We know that Reigns has discussed it on his social media, but as it stands, WWE are still promoting Reigns v Goldberg, so for now, that's what the article says. Markitecht2305 (talk) 23:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Time of the Boneyard match

The table states the Boneyard match between The Undertaker and AJ Styles was 35 minutes, but there is no way it lasted that long. Rewatching it, from the time they first encounter each other to when The Undertaker buries him was less than 20 minutes. Somebody needs to put a proper time. Compy90; (talk) 10:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Womens titles are not world titles

omens titles are not counted as world titles, never was, never is, anywhere in the world including wwe. Stop violating WP:NOR and adding them in world title section just because you think they belong to world title. If you have actual proof that WWE themselves count it as world title give source or else do not violate WP:OR. Dilbaggg (talk) 06:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Dilbaggg First off, you didn't need to post this here and at my talk page, just one place is all that's needed. Secondly, there is not a violation of WP:NOR as since the introduction of the women's Royal Rumble matches, WWE has referred to the women's titles as world titles. Do we put a source every time we refer to the men's titles being world titles? No, so we don't need to do that here either.

Here's a couple of WWE sources referring to the women's titles as world titles though:

• From the WWE.com article about the 2019 women's Royal Rumble: "Becky then fought her way through perennial rivals Nia Jax and Charlotte Flair to win the whole thing and earn an opportunity to challenge for a World Championship at WrestleMania 35."
• From the WWE.com article about the 2018 women's Money in the Bank ladder match: "The victorious Superstar will guarantee herself the opportunity to challenge the World Champion from her respective brand anytime and anywhere they wish in the subsequent year." --JDC808 ♫ 07:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

User:JDC808 Well if its officially considered then fine by me. And mens world title dont need source every time because its been there since 1905, long before wikipedia, since the womens world championship is a new concept its better to cite it. Regardless as long as wwe officially counts them as world title now, I have no problem. But the structure here is different from other wrestlemania articles, like say WrestleMania 28 which includes all undercard matches regardless of title and only includes the main event separately. Night 1 should include all matches on the under card excluding the final match broadcasted which is the main event, night 2 should follow the same. World title matches are never written separately. But still if you decide to make an exception here, then no problem. Dilbaggg (talk) 07:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

I have no idea why you would think that the women's championships weren't world titles. There isn't exactly a full criteria as to what is a world title, but it's very clear the respective women's championships meet that. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Lee Vilenski Please keep in mind wp:or a good reason this section is rightfully on general section, just because you think they are world titles they are not, and they never ere considered so anywhere 1905-2017, calling them world titles is just like calling IC titles , US titles etc world titles. Untill recently women barely wrestled 5 minute matches, were rarely even booked on shows to wrestle and were side attractions. Regardless am not here to debate, but don't push your personal views, they are world titles today because WWE and perhaps other promotions too consider them as so now, but not because what you feel, as long as there is a wp:rs there is no problem. Dilbaggg (talk) 23:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Just would like to point out that women's titles not being considered world titles from 1905–2017 is false. The original professional wrestling women's championship was the Women's World Championship, from which came the NWA World Women's Championship, which it has been known since its introduction. Although just introduced last year, AEW's women's championship is the AEW Women's World Championship (going off of the very first sentence of your original post). So it's not just a recent thing with WWE (though it is true that WWE did not start referring to them as world championships until a couple of years ago). --JDC808 ♫ 17:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Don't forget the TNA title, sometimes called TNA Women's World Championship. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

JDC808 OMG [[that article reveals a bunch of sourceless entries filled with when tags. The article on Josephine Blatt does not even use a source to say when if ever she won a wrestling womens championship. WP:PW is more messed up than I thought, take that to ANI and see more sanctions for more wp:or and wp:pov violations. Most of the women listed weren't even wrestlers, rather strong women (i.e. female body builders with no fighting connections). No old news articles relating to them, most of the references seems to be contemporary post 2010 feminist fictions. The entries are rightfully listed with when tags. A source should be as valid as https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1905/05/05/100485496.pdf (the 1905 fiirst ever world championship match appeared in the new york times the same year it was won!). This is clear propaganda push, and am sure would be penalized if brought to ANI but I don't care whatsoever as it has no relevance. The NWA World Women's Championship may be relevant but the Women's World Championship clearly has 0 validity and should be an article considered for deletion. But that discussion does not belong here, and am sure no one outside a small group of wikipedia editors care about it, so i won't bother bringing it up, but just shows how much more messed up WP:PW is if it is full of contents with no wp:rs like that. Dilbaggg (talk) 12:46, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Further discussions regarding this matter which is going off-topic here should be made here. Dilbaggg (talk) 13:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Spanish Announcers

I've been watching WrestleMania with the Spanish commentary track this weekend, and Carlos Cabrera and Marcelo Rodríguez have divided commentary duties for this event: Marcelo did commentary alone during night #1, and Carlos is currently doing commentary alone for night #2. I found this one source (in Spanish) that announced this change to commentary, where Marcelo indicates that part of the reason behind this change is maintaining social distancing: https://superluchas.com/la-narracion-de-wwe-en-espanol-en-wrestlemania-36/

I'm not sure, though, if this source is enough, since it's not in English (nor do I know if it's considered "reliable"). Thus, I posted it here so that other editors who also read Spanish could corroborate what it says and make the appropriate edits to the article, if they see fit. --Andresg770 (talk) 00:24, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes. Superluchas is reliable. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2020

Match #9 has the incorrect time of 19:00, this is the correct time for match #9 35:00 ~~Chip3004~~ ~~ Chip3004 (talk) 01:13, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

References

Inclusion of 24/7 Title matches

I have included the 24/7 title changes. Not including them seems to be very odd. They were title changes. They are listed as what they are title changes. The segments were short and are listed as such. The position in the respective days is sourced by a reliable secondary source.I see no reason for its omission. Sparkle1 (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Because they weren't actually matches, and WWE doesn't consider them matches either or they would have included them as such. The prose covers these 24/7 title changes. The only time we include it on the match table is if an actual match is scheduled (that hasn't happened yet for a PPV). --JDC808 ♫ 00:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

We had this discussion before. The 24/7 segments are just segments. WWE and reliable sources doesn't consider the title changes as matches. If there is an official match, it's a match. If not, it's a segment, like WM X8 hardcore title changes. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Dark Match Inclusion

I also cannot see why a Raw Match which happened to be taped at this event is included. It seems pretty standard to use the venue and staff to tape another match. It seems silly to include an non-Wrestlemania match in the list of Wrestlemania matches. It seems very confusing and odd. Sparkle1 (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Dark matches are always included for the event on which they take place, even if they air on another show. Look at NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn II (or really any NXT TakeOver event) and AEW Revolution - the dark matches filmed for upcoming episodes of WWE NXT and AEW Dark are included in the events' results. Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

I think that's something we need to change. If a dark match was taped to be shown on a different show than the event, then it shouldn't be listed on that event's article as it was not a match for that event. It should only be included if it was not taped for another show. --JDC808 ♫ 00:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I (pretty much) agree with you but obviously edit warring isn't the way to make your point, take it up with Wikiproject Professional wrestling if you want change. However, I don't think what you said even applies to the Drew-Big Show match. Not only did the match take place at WrestleMania, WWE explicitly made it clear that it was a WrestleMania match (even describing it in some form as a "WrestleMania main event") unlike the AEW Revolution dark match which was never acknowledged by AEW as being a Revolution match. Removing the WWE title match would be removing a dark match that is being explicitly described as a "WrestleMania match" by WWE solely because it aired in a different manner than the rest of the show (Monday Night Raw or otherwise). Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

All dark matches from all PPVs are always included. Whether the dark matches took place before the PPV or after the PPV is irrelevant. The NXT TakeOver dark matches are different because those matches, in storyline, were specifically stated as taking part on a different show. The regular NXT episodes, where those matches later aired, didn’t say those matches took place the same night as TakeOver. They pretended it was supposed to be a different night. The Drew vs. Big Show match on the other hand doesn’t fall into that category. They didn’t pretend that the match took place on a different day. They specifically said it took place at Mania, which it did. It was essentially a video playing during Raw, showing what happened after Mania went off the air. Raw itself, including all of the other matches, was taped on a completely different day than Mania, and they didn’t pretend otherwise. OldSkool01 (talk) 07:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, this probably should get moved to WT:PW. Personally, I don't like the term "dark match", as jargon. Whether we should include them is another matter. I think we should have it down as a "post-broadcast" match, then it doesn't matter if it is later broadcast, which is the definition of a dark match. The same would be true for a match not taped, "pre-broadcast" before an event (the difference between that and a pre-show match is that of definition by the organiser).

Our issues about what classifies as an event, is it the broadcast of the event, or is it the live event itself. We should be WP:BROAD, and cover both in an article, so we should definitely comment on all matches that took place at the event, even if it's a taping for another show. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Those saying dark matches are always included on the same day they take place, WM 36 didn't take place in a single day (i don't mean just part 1 and part 2), but all the matches combining both part 1 and part 2 were taped throughout March. We cannot be sure that Drew vs Brock, Edge vs Orton, Charlotte vs Rhea, etc all part 2 matches were taped on the same day. Just because Drew vs Brock and Drew vs Big Show were taped on the same day doesn't mean that they should be included in the same event, especially considering the fact it is a complete myth that Drew vs Big Show was a dark match as it was taped for and shown on Raw. Unless WWE themselves considers Drew vs Brock as part of WM, or any other wp:rs as per WP:PW/RS considers it as such, this seems to be a massive wp:or and wp:pov violation as well as a total fan point of view. If WWE or any WP:PW/RS does considers it as part of WM 36 then its all right to include it. But that does not seem to be the case. Dilbaggg (talk) 13:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

All of Mania was taped on 2 days, Wednesday March 25th and Thursday March 26th. The Drew-Show match was also taped during those days because you could clearly see the Mania arena setup was still in place. You’ll notice Raw and SmackDown didn’t have the same arena setups. Mania had the commentary table to the left side of the ring with the giant Mania sign hanging behind them. Raw had the announcers table up on the stage and there was no giant Mania sign hanging on the left side of the ring. So regardless of whether or not the Mania matches were taped out of order, the fact is that all of those Mania matches were taped together on those 2 days. None of the Raw or SmackDown matches were taped on the same days as the Mania matches. OldSkool01 (talk) 16:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I think the raw matches can be included if there is a source. We have other similar articles with matches taped before the event and aired later, like NXT and ROH. I don't see this case different. Even we have cases where a wrestler lost a title days before he won the belt. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

What "we think" does not matter. Its what sources say that does. Does WWE or any WP:PW/RS say this Raw match is part of WrestleMania? If they do then sure it belongs here, if they don't then I don't think so, but I will leave it to the majority to decide. Dilbaggg (talk) 15:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Just wanted to add that WWE has acknowledged that the Big Show match was part of Mania: "We found out on Raw that McIntyre was provoked into a match by Big Show at WrestleMania just minutes after pinning Brock Lesnar to win the title, and the footage aired on Raw as McIntyre’s first defense" per https://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2020-04-06#full-detail-40075497 and by credible source CBS Sports: "The Big Show would interrupt McIntyre, throwing down a challenge for a title match, leading to the first time WWE had ever hosted a secret title match at WrestleMania" (https://www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/wwe-raw-results-recap-grades-surprise-wwe-title-match-debuts-and-returns-after-wrestlemania-36/live/) - Mt.FijiBoiz (talk) 15:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Well that settles its inclusion, no more problem. Dilbaggg (talk) 15:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Official WrestleMania 36 poster

The poster currently used on WrestleMania 36 is not the official poster. I previously uploaded a version of the official poster but the change was reverted. WWE Shop lists a slightly different version (without the Snickers logo) as official.[1] It looks like there is no official poster on the internet that lists both dates of WrestleMania 36 (April 4 and April 5). Could I suggest that one of the official posters be used instead, I think a note should be added to the image caption mentioning that the poster does not list both dates. Both posters linked are the largest and best quality I could find.

Official Posters
Version 1 – with Snickers logo
Version 2 – without Snickers logo

KC Roosters (talk · contribs) 07:10, 10 April 2020 (UTC)