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I've imported much of the information in Chung Kwei into this article, including links. Someone needs to decide whether 'Zhong Kwei' (Pinyin romanization) or 'Chung Kwei' (Wade-Giles romanization) is the name this figure is most commonly known by - then both names can be listed in one article under that name, and a redirect placed on the other. I'll leave it to the professionals from here. :) --Samf-nz 01:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Radagast83 03:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Same as?

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Is this fellow also known as 驅魔大神 the "great spirit of exhorsism?" In the late 1960's I saw a fantastic painting of him, stompping down a winding path from a cave on a mountain, accompanied by five bats. He was carrying a large broadsword in his right hand while his left hand was clenched in a fist. His hair was akimbo as was his beard and the tassels on his hat stood straight out to the left and right like he was charged with millions of volts. The painting was $120.oo even though I was poor I could have purchased it. Looked like he was ready to kick butt and take names. I understand that he is sort of the patron saint of education. And according to the web page at https://books.google.com/books?id=KhLzDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA419&lpg=PA419&dq=%E9%A9%85%E9%AD%94%E5%A4%A7%E7%A5%9E&source=bl&ots=yb6ACzG6Rr&sig=B4wvsR0tIYpGzIIX3XExfbfeSb0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjEhZ6kpZHWAhWLj1QKHdv8DnIQ6AEIbDAP#v=onepage&q=%E9%A9%85%E9%AD%94%E5%A4%A7%E7%A5%9E&f=false he is the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.168.161.84 (talk) 19:21, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify

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By the way, "The great spirit of exorcism" is 驱魔的伟大精神; "exorcism" is 驅魔大神.

Although Chung Kwei and Zhong Kui are sometimes treated as interchangeable I"m not sure if they are the same person. Does anyone know for sure? I may be off piste, but according to this article, by Michael P. Garofalo, Great Star of the Literary God...[1] the differences are as follows. Zhong Kui protects homes and vanquishes evil. The patron saint of education success and scholars is Chung K'uei (later, Wen Chang) with two underlings (K'uei Hsing and Chu Yi) in the service of achievements in education. K'uei Hsing stands on one good leg on a turtle, with brandished inkbrush, and a crippled leg held high behind. Zhong Kui's iconography is a fan, a bat (or 5 bats), a sword and a vessel. He takes a martial arts pose with a fierce face. Because they were all meant to be ugly top scholars who were rejected then died, people tend to mix them along with Zhong Kui and sometimes another deity the God of War, patron saint of martial artists, Guan Di with a red face.
There's an interesting discussion of etymology in the article. If any of this is useful or relevant I'm happy to include it in a section or feel free to do it anyway. Manytexts (talk) 04:33, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]