Template:Did you know nominations/National Wrestling Conference

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 21:52, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

National Wrestling Conference

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The Ultimate Warrior

• ... that in 1995, The Ultimate Warrior (pictured) agreed to make an appearance for the Las Vegas-based National Wrestling Conference after nearly three years in self-imposed exile? Source: Simon, Harry (2005). "Behind the Pyro: The Ultimate Warrior". TheWrestlingFan.com.
  • ALT1: ... that the National Wrestling Conference formed a partnership with The Ultimate Warrior which included jointly promoting Warrior University? Source: Simon, Harry (2005). "Behind the Pyro: The Ultimate Warrior". TheWrestlingFan.com.
  • ALT2: ... that the National Wrestling Conference's controversial KKK storyline was the basis of an episode of the Netflix series GLOW?Source: Stroud, Brandon (December 10, 2017). "The Stars Of 'GLOW' Revealed How Wrestling Superstar Virgil Inspired The Show's KKK Story". Yahoo.com.
  • ALT3: ... that during a National Wrestling Conference show, Cactus Jack piledrove Sabu onto a blackjack table at the Silver Nugget Casino? Source: Johnson, Mike (April 14, 2020). "YOUTUBE CLASSIC: CACTUS JACK VS. SABU IN A DESERT DEATH MATCH". PWInsider.com.
  • ALT4: ... that the National Wrestling Conference pioneered the use of the internet to promote itself and interact with wrestling fans across the country using AOL Chat? Source: "[CHAT NWC on AOL 8/25 pt.1]". Newsgroup: rec.sport.pro-wrestling. August 25, 1995.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Global arrogance
  • Comment: Based on a post from WT:DYK – will strike and edit hooks to follow :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Created by 173.162.220.17 (talk). Nominated by Theleekycauldron (talk) at 20:42, 1 November 2022 (UTC).

• Striking ALTs 3 and 4 – the former is rather routine for wrestling, the latter not based on reliable sources. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
  • I don't watch wrestling, but is it really "rather routine" to piledrive someone onto a blackjack table?  MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM  01:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
    • i have to imagine that it's a C6 violation... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:32, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
• Article is new enough, long enough, Earwig flags up possible copyvio, but that is a direct quote that is appropriately cited. QPQ is done. Haven't yet reviewed the specific hooks. The main issue that I'm having is that a few of the sources look like blogs that probably don't satisfy WP:RS – e.g. WrestlingFigs.com, CrazyMax.org, TheWrestlingFan.com, possibly a couple others. Until that is addressed somehow, I don't think this DYK review can proceed. Cielquiparle (talk) 23:32, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
  • @Cielquiparle: I think that's about what I suspected. I'll see what I can do, but time's short and i'm not overly invested. Shall we say a one-week deadline? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:30, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

I replaced / removed WrestlingFigs.com and CrazyMax.org. I didn't think it was an issue since they've been used by members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling and aren't listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling/Sources#Unreliable sources. The author for TheWrestlingFan.com is Harry Simon, a longtime wrestling journalist who contributed to both the Pro Wrestling Torch and Wrestling Observer. The column I'm citing is essentially a retrospective of his original PWT article from 1995. If there's anything else I can do please let me know. Thanks. 173.162.220.17 (talk) 17:32, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation re: TheWrestlingFan.com, and for the clean up. Regarding the hooks, ALT0 checks out and is OK. Regarding ALT1, I wasn't able to verify it using the source cited in this nomination (which doesn't seem to mention Warrior University), but I did notice that you cite a different source within the article, which is Wrestling Observer Newsletter (which is paywalled). I think it's one of the weaker hooks though, so I'm inclined to strike that one anyway. Regarding ALT2, I wanted to recommend a slight edit to the wording:

• ALT2a: ... that the National Wrestling Conference's controversial KKK storyline was the inspiration for an episode of the Netflix series GLOW?

In other words, changing "basis for" to "inspiration for" (which seems more accurate). What do you think? Cielquiparle (talk) 20:59, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

I actually included quotes for WON in my original submission but they were removed during the review process. From the 6/13/95 WON: "Apparently part of the deal is that Hellwig is doing a favor for Bill Anderson, his original wrestling trainer back in 1985, when he and Sting started out together as Power Team USA and also that Hellwig would share in the profits of Martin opening up a Warrior wrestling training school." The Wrestlecrap.com article shows this school was called Warrior University [1]. Not a problem if the hook isn't necessary though.

Also the rewording for the ALT2 hook sounds fine to me. 173.162.220.17 (talk) 22:54, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, but I think the real reason ALT1 doesn't work is because it's information that sounds PR-like ("partnership...to jointly promote"), so I've struck it out.

• Approved ALT0 and ALT2a, per above review and discussion. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:13, 2 December 2022 (UTC)