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Canadian Senators Group change in party colour

Proposal: that we change the party colour, coded in Template:Canadian party colour for the Canadian Senators Group to #1B3E3D per this (at ~10:18:35 point in the video, when the colouring of the group's name below Senator Scott Tannas' name is displayed) either of #224845 or the brightness/contrast-tweaked #386B67 per The Tom below. Thanks. --Doug Mehus (talk) 22:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Not to be confused with
     Canadian particolour
 — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

To non-involved RfC closing editor/administrator: When consensus has been attained, please close with the optional WP:RFCCLOSE tags. Thanks. --Doug Mehus (talk) 22:09, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose for now, without more/better sourcing – and not that exact colour code. The idea seems reasonable to have some kind of colour in there that will match the "branding" of that parliamentary group, but I don't see that we have proof of that. And, while video devices can differ (from recording all the way through encoding [and transmission re-encoding] to playback), the code proposed above appears not to be anywhere near enough a close approximation to what I saw in the video. The proposed colour, #1B3E3D looks like this, almost black. Using "colour-picker" tools, and depending on exactly how I watch that video clip in Mac and Windows, I get #0722A3 to #0725A3, which are notably lighter and much more clearly blue. Using #0723A3 or #0724A3 would split the difference in that range. At any rate, the coloured bar in question in the video reads "CONSERVATIVE/CONSERVATEUR". Despite having lived in Canada for a couple of years before moving back to Yankeeland, I don't know enough about the .ca Parliament and its TV presentation to know if that's intended to be a party name, a parliamentary caucus/group name, or a general political alignment identifier. Regardless, it doesn't appear to represent Canadian Senators Group in particular. That said, if CSG is as conservative a group as it seems to lean, and if blue is being used consistently as a Canadian conservatives identifier (opposite the American usage :-), then a dark blue in the infobox might make sense after all.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

  SMcCandlish, I used the ColorPick Eyedropper Google Chrome extension to get that code. I could've been a little off, possibly because of the shading that occurs in the video. Canadian Senators Group is a parliamentary caucus that, obviously, does not contest elections since Senators in Canada are appointed by The Queen on the advice of the Prime Minister of Canada. I noted you referred to Conservative/Conservateur...did you look at the right time index? I gave only a approximation; you may need to fast-forward or rewind (as applicable) to "The Hon. Scott Tannas" when his chyron appears on the screen. The source is a good one because it's an official source and the SenVU/ParlVU parliamentary broadcasting service uses the official colours that the Senate of Canada website uses. Hoping you can take a second look at this, possibly with a different colour picking tool? Doug Mehus (talk) 16:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

  SMcCandlish, Have a look at the CPAC (TV channel) version, at around the 19:15 and 20:07 marks. I can't screen capture without the video player shading, and altering, the exact official party colour, but perhaps you will have better luck. Note that CPAC is a rebroadcaster of the official Senate of Canada parliamentary proceedings, so both are equally official sources. Doug Mehus (talk) 18:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

  I've checked out that version, and I get a radically different color, a somewhat greyed-out dark blue-green. If these colors ultimately come from the Senate of Canada website, that's the source to use, then, since we can either grab an actual HTML color code, or (if it's in image) pick the color with multiple tools from multiple image-viewing apps, without any interference from steaming-video compressors and such. That said, I'm moving to support in principle, given that we've been doing this with other parliamentary groups. Just use a color that's appropriate; the one originally proposed is near-black indigo for me in both macOS and Windows 10. Given the navy-to-teal range I'm getting in the actual video feeds, I don't know what to suggest if the website doesn't have something more precise.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:16, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

  SMcCandlish, Thanks! See The Tom's colour code that his screen capture produced, without the mouseover greying you and I encountered. He's proposed tweaking the brightness modestly, at least until the Canadian Senators Group has an official logo on a website or Twitter account. I'm happy with what he's produced.--Doug Mehus T·C 02:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

  Sure, The Tom's #386B67 works for me. That's about what I was seeing when I looked at the second video you linked to. PS: On re-reviewing the first video, you were correct that I'd been looking at and sampling from the wrong banner; that's where I got the navy blue from. Derp.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

• Seeing how the CSG doesn't contest elections, it might not ever do branding that would tell us its preferred colour. This video is hosted on parl.gc.ca, so it might be the closest we ever get to an "official" colour for the group. I'd be fine with basing our colour choice on this video. But on my screen, it looks a lot lighter than your proposed colour. Somewhere around #116663. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 18:33, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

  Arctic.gnome, We used the colour of the Independent Senators Group from the CPAC/SenVU/ParlVU parliamentary proceedings webcasts for their colour; they are the same type of non-partisan technical parliamentary group. I don't think we should need to wait for a group website to be forthcoming, particularly since the ISG's website does not use the purple colours. Thus, we're using, primarily, the colours of the official Senate video proceedings in that case.

  Yes, my proposed colour is off because the video player shades it darker when you move your mouse over it. It's kind of a shade of Teal, I would say, which makes sense since they are made up of conservative, centrist liberal, and some leftist liberal Senators. Doug Mehus (talk) 18:46, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• Agree in principle - My screencap from the video version on the Senvu site dropped into Photoshop and eyedroppered got me #224845 ( ), without any mouseover grey-out issues as discussed above.

However, I decided to nudge the saturation and brightness around a little to play better with our existing colourscheme and I'd like to propose we tweak it from  > , or #386B67, which gives us a Parliamentary Bob Ross palette of         . Thoughts? The Tom (talk) 02:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

The Tom, Excellent work. Yes, I'd support your tweaked colour to #386B67. If and when the Senate of Canada publishes on its official website, or the Canadian Senators Group establishes an official logo, we can always adjust the colour slightly to match the official colour. But for now, I think that'll work excellent. :) Doug Mehus T·C 02:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

The Tom, I was going to ask if you had template editor rights, but see you're an administrator, so assume all admins have template editor privileges? Doug Mehus T·C 02:41, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done - Always hesitant to admin my own suggestions into place in such circumstances, but based on the above we came to a pretty quick consensus. The Tom (talk) 06:48, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

New Canadian party colour group for Progressive Senate Group

The Tom, can you create a new party colour group named "Progressive Senate Group" for the newly-formed Progressive Senate Group? This seems like a non-controversial enough request, so consensus likely isn't needed (but welcomed if anyone wants to chime in). Set the initial colour to the light grey colour used for the independent/non-affiliated Senators.

Friendly pings: MikkelJSmith, SMcCandlish, and Arctic gnome

Thanks,
--Doug Mehus T·C 17:19, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

These are exciting times for people who like to make lists of parliamentary caucuses in their spare time. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 19:04, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Arctic.gnome, LOL, indeed! There are rumours of a further splitting, possibly from the ISG and/or the Conservative Senators, who are expected to lose official status in the next 4-6 years. Doug Mehus T·C 19:16, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Arctic.gnome, I finally had only second my article creation in the main namespace, the other being CKOO-FM, in creating the Progressive Senate Group. Doug Mehus T·C 19:17, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Their logo uses #5B081D ( ). Should we use that (or similar)? — Kawnhr (talk) 19:22, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

I got pretty much the same colour so I think that's what we should use. By the way, User:Dmehus, you forgot the 2 when tagging me. - MikkelJSmith2 (talk) 20:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

MikkelJSmith2, Sorry, yeah, did that before you told me about your former account to which you no longer have access. Thanks! Doug Mehus T·C 21:08, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Kawnhr, Yeah, I was going to suggest that. I'm fine with using that dark burgundy colour, at least until their logo changes. Assuming you used the colour of their logo name, not the background colour of their website, of course. Doug Mehus T·C 19:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

The Tom could you enact this change please? Doug Mehus, Kawnhr and I seem to have come to a consensus. I'm asking you since I see you're the one that did it last time. - MikkelJSmith2 (talk) 22:04, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

MikkelJSmith2, It doesn't have to be The Tom, but we seem to have unanimous support here. Bradv, Diannaa. or JzG, can either of you add "Progressive Senate Group" to Template:Canadian party colour with the hex colour code indicated by Kawnhr above? Doug Mehus T·C 23:16, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 15 November 2019

Per the emerging unanimous consensus at Template talk:Canadian party colour#New Canadian party colour group for Progressive Senate Group and per this similar discussion, could an administrator or template editor create a new name at Template:Canadian party colour/name for Progressive Senate Group (named Progressive Senate Group) using the hexadecimal colour code proposed by Kawnhr (#5B081D)?

Friendly pings to the other involved editors: MikkelJSmith2, MikkelJSmith, Arctic.gnome, and SMcCandlish

Thanks. Doug Mehus T·C 15:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Done. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Arctic.gnome, Oh, you're an admin? I thought I checked that. Or are you a Template Editor? Doug Mehus T·C 16:26, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm also a template-editor, but one really shouldn't act as either a t-e or an admin when one has been !voting on the topic. Better to let an uninvolved party do it, per WP:INVOLVED.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:38, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

SMcCandlish, Arctic.gnome didn't vote though. He just said this is an interesting time. MikkelJSmith2 (talk) 17:10, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

SMcCandlish, Yeah, I'd agree with that, SMcCandlish, too. Like MikkelJSmith2 said below/above, Arctic.gnome didn't vote on this request. Even in the previous request, The Tom didn't technically vote, though he did participate in the discussion and he acknowledged that he is reluctant to admin his own requests or requests in he's participated in some way; however, seeing as we had unanimity, it was likely not a problem (we can always justify it as an WP:IAR admin action, if necessary). Doug Mehus T·C 17:14, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough. It was a general point, not a specific criticism of Arctic.gnome. Basically, I don't like to see T-Es get the bit taken away or threatened with it. We need more T-Es, and more spin-outs of former admin-only tools to non-admins, but the catch is that people with bits like T-E tend not to be quite as careful with them as admins would be, because they're less used to scrutiny and didn't go through a wringer like RfA. >;-)  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:10, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

SMcCandlish, Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, it seems like template editors don't have the same sort of post-privilege scrutiny that rollbackers or admins might go through. That said, there's more potential to abuse rollback and pending changes reviewer privileges whereas template editors who frequently break things and don't show any sort of limiting themselves to templates in which they're competent seem like the primary reason for removing the privilege as I suspect template editors don't engage in intentional vandalism.

And yeah, I know you didn't mean a criticism of Arctic.gnome. Doug Mehus T·C 22:57, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Dmehus That was my thinking. If there is unanimity, it doesn't matter that the person closing the discussion was involved. If anyone disagrees with the conclusion, I'm happy to invite a neutral party to decide instead. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 22:51, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Arctic.gnome, Yep, while we're on the subject, I tend to think WP:COMMONSENSE and WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY supercede everything, and this is certainly the case here. Doug Mehus T·C 22:53, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 13 May 2020

I request that a new function be added to the template: |colourblock=<span style="color:#{{Canadian party colour/colour|{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}}}">█</span>.

This will produce a square that can be set to any currently accepted party colour in the template (For instance: #EA6D6A #6495ED #F4A460 #845B87 #336633 #FDD52B). It is effectively a form of the existing |color+name= function, except without the name; this could open it up to a variety of uses, though the one I have in mind is for Template:Senate of Canada.

Several months back, there was a discussion on Template talk:Senate of Canada about bringing the colour scheme used in that template in-line with the colours used elsewhere via {{Canadian party colour}}. Consensus was reached and discussion closed (though I only noticed recently), and so I was looking into updating the navbox accordingly… only to see it uses the old and supplanted {{Party shading}} for its colours, and that it that doesn't have new senate colours available; meanwhile, {{Canadian party colour}} didn't have the option to make a simple block of colour; leaving no clear way to go forward. The new function I suggested will solve this problem, allowing the colour scheme to be updated with this template instead of relying on an old and awkward one. I have also mocked up what this would look like in my sandbox, for reference. — Kawnhr (talk) 20:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps {{Legend}} or {{Legend2}} could be used? {{Legend2|{{Canadian party colour|CA|Liberal|bgcolor}}}} →   . —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Appreciate the suggestion, but after testing it out I'm not too keen on it. The issue I have is that the block produced by {{Legend2}} is considerably wider, which in turn lengthens the rows, and— in my opinion— calls more attention to the blocks, which makes the navbox look 'busier'. Compare this version (with Legend2) to this version (with my proposal) (which is actually already a bit wider than the current version, but not too bad). But beyond the specific use I intend, I think my suggestion (function to produce a block with partisan colouring) is both a natural extension of this template and one that potentially has use elsewhere, and should also be considered on that merit. — Kawnhr (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Maybe something like Template:Senate of Canada/sandbox would be better, but the contrast would need to be fixed for some of the entries. – BrandonXLF (talk) 19:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

That is similar to the style used until 2016, and which was abandoned by community consensus for not being easily distinguishable (and being out-of-step with other, similar templates, like Template:Current U.S. senators). Increasing the contrast to make it more distinguishable would go against a more recent consensus to bring the template's colours in-line with the one used elsewhere for Canadian politics. — Kawnhr (talk) 19:05, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. Cabayi (talk) 15:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Labor-Progressive Party Addition

The Communist Party was banned in Canada in 1940, the Labor-Progressive Party was formed in it's place. It should have a designation (Federal, Alberta, Ontario, maybe others) and the same colour code as the Communist Party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor-Progressive_Party — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caddyshack01 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@Caddyshack01: This has been done. The code to activate it is Labor-Progressive. There are no province-specific articles, so the code works the same for any jurisdiction. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 17:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

UFO-Labour

Can we add a United Farmers-coloured addition for United Farmers of Ontario–Labour? Agnes Macphail was elected as such in Grey—Bruce in 1935. FUNgus guy (talk) 03:31, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Request: New Party Colours for the 2021 Montreal Municipal Election

There are currently 13 registered political parties for the 2021 Montreal municipal election. Five parties have defined colours on their respective websites. Can we have these added to the party list template, please?

New Parties and Colours

Colour	Colour Name	row-name	name short	Input text
	#2061AE	Action Montréal	Action Montréal	Action Montreal
	#B22235	Citoyen.ne.s Outremont	Citoyen.ne.s Outremont	Citoyen Outremont
	#6EBE43	Équipe CDN - NDG / Team CDN - NDG	Équipe CDN - NDG / Team CDN - NDG	Equipe CDN
	#83BB1E	Équipe LaSalle	Équipe LaSalle	Equipe LaSalle
	#124CA1	Équité Montréal - Équipe Cloutier	Équité Montréal - Équipe Cloutier	Equite MTL

Saum1 (talk) 00:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Nova Scotia

Hello. Can someone please edit the color for the Nova Scotia party "Atlantica" from 1E90FF to 5073B8 so as to fit with its Template and page. Thanks.--Aréat (talk) 03:10, 18 August 2021 (UTC) @Frietjes: if that's ok with you.--Aréat (talk) 14:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Aréat, should be implemented now. Frietjes (talk) 14:39, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!--Aréat (talk) 14:47, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Protected edit request (25 August 2021)

Request to adjust the colour for PPC to 3e2b7c per its website. HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 19:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

@HapHaxion: on the website I do not see that colour. I see dark purple (#442D7B) and a light purple (#604C8F). Where did you get this specific colour from? Terasail^[✉️] 19:56, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

@Terasail: I downloaded an EPS file of the logo provided in the press kit, converted it to the standard SVG format, and grabbed it from there. I'm not sure if the colour in that file and the dark purple used on the site are slightly different though (if they are then either will probably do). HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 01:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done I changed the colour to: #442D7B. For now since I did not see #83789E (old) being used, the difference between #442D7B and #3e2b7c is minimal, so I chose the one from their website background. Terasail^[✉️] 13:26, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that shade is a little too harsh compared to the pastel colours of the other major parties. It's not always about selecting the official colour used, but what looks good stylistically in the election boxes. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:34, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and switched to the lighter colour from the website mentioned by Terasail (604C8F). -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:49, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Canadian Nationalist Party

This party shows up in election templates as its full name, but there seems to be a consensus to remove "Party" from the election tables, so it should only read "Canadian Nationalist". FUNgus guy (talk) 23:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. Fixed. -- Earl Andrew - talk 06:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Colour for PPC too dark

Hello, when someone places a link in a table cell where the background is the colour of People's, there hardly is any contrast. Can someone please make the purple lighter? Thank you. — Eric0892 (talk) 05:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I changed it recently to #604c8f, but I admit it is still a little too dark. So, going here, the next shade lighter is #6f5d9a, so I will try that.-- Earl Andrew - talk 06:05, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

All right, thanks. — Eric0892 (talk) 16:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit requests for Vancouver parties

Two requests for Vancouver parties:

1) Please change the NPA's colour from #360058    to #7228D8   . The latter colour (which comes directly from the NPA's logo) is currently used on the NPA's own article via hexcode and I think it should be adopted into the template: it's lighter and easier to make out, and makes for a better scheme alongside the rest of the parties: compare            vs           .

2) Please add The Electors' Action Movement into the template. Editors have already assigned TEAM a colour where it needs one, like on its own page and on List of mayors of Vancouver (#FF5CCD   ), so it should be incorporated formally into the template. I admit that it would have limited use right now, as TEAM has been defunct for decades, but it was once a major player in Vancouver politics and if anyone were to make articles for Vancouver's municipal elections in the 70s/80s, then it would be handy to just reference the template. — Kawnhr (talk) 18:23, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Done :-) -- Earl Andrew - talk 23:44, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

New Ontario party

Hi - Randy Hillier has formed a new political party (Ontario First Party) that is affiliated with the PPC. Could we have this added to the template? Probably the same purple that PPC uses. Thanks —WildComet ^talk 06:01, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Edit request for Quebec party

Could we possibly change the name for the Conservative Party of Quebec from "Conservative (2009)" to simply "Conservative"? After all, there doesn't appear to be one other than "Conservative (historical)". Fulserish (talk) 05:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Edit request for Ontario party

We currently use the default gray colour for The Peoples Political Party in Ontario. I'd like to suggest the colour code be changed to #6F9BA8 ( ) as it is the closest to an official color we will get based on their party's logo on their website (see File:The Peoples Political Party.png). In addition, I recommend we change the short name to The People instead of People's, and the input text from "People's Political Party" to "Peoples Political Party". Fulserish (talk) 09:37, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Done! -- Earl Andrew - talk 21:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Edit request for federal Liberal Party colour

The current colour for the federal Liberal Party is #EA6D6A ( ). However, the official colour of the Liberal Party is #D71920 ( ), a much darker colour. Cyrobyte (talk) 02:36, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

While official colours are used as a guide, the exact shade is not necessarily used on Wikipedia, if editors feel that the shade conflicts with readability. In this instance, I think the current, more pastel shade of red is more pleasing to the eye when used in large quantities, as happens often with political colours on the wiki. — Kawnhr (talk) 23:51, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Edit requests for Newfoundland parties

I was checking the Newfoundland party colours when I noticed something strange: the Fisherman's Protective Union and the Newfoundland Reform Liberal Party don't have codes here, even though I swore I'd seen them on election pages with their own colour. Looking into it, I see what happened: editors had been using other means to give those parties colours. You can see on 1913 Newfoundland general election that the FPU's colour is actually generated with NL|Farmer, while 1975 Newfoundland general election gives the Reform Liberals their colour just through a hex code. However, both of these two parties are notable and so I believe they should be formalized in the template.

The colour used for Reform Liberal is #db7093   . But I think the FPU could do with a new colour… it's obviously not a farmer party so giving it that shade (or the UFC/Progressive) seems wrong. I like #6cac82,   — a lighter shade of a green (#32593f) I plucked from the image of its flag.

In short: Please add NL|FPU with the colour #32593f, and NL|Reform Liberal with the colour #db7093. — Kawnhr (talk) 21:16, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:49, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @MSGJ:, appreciate that you've accepted my request, but it doesn't seem to be working for me. Using either of them gives #DCDCDC, as if it's an invalid code. For example: #32593f (this doesn't come through well on the page but that was rendered with the template code…). Can you have another look? Thanks! — Kawnhr (talk) 00:39, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Kawnhr: I'm guessing the issue is the inclusion of the # in those entries. Before I look further into that, though, can you please clarify the purpose of having two NLs in there? This uses #switch syntax, so the second NL will be ignored, unless I'm missing something. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 00:00, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

@Tamzin: Hi, thanks for the quick response! I didn't add the code into the template so I can't say for sure, but I think it was just a mistake on MSGJ's part when he tried to fulfill the request. If you could fix it up and move the code into the proper NL area, it'd be much appreciated! — Kawnhr (talk) 01:57, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

@Kawnhr: Okay, I think I see what happened with the NL part... In your edit request, when you said Please add NL|FPU ... and NL|Reform Liberal, did you mean that as, "Please make it so {{Canadian party colour|NL|FPU}} and {{Canadian party colour|NL|Reform Liberal}} do this"? Because I think MSGJ took that as "Please add the literal markup NL|FPU and NL|Reform Liberal", which is probably how I would have taken that too, because that's usually what that means in an edit request. But adding that markup does something totally different, creating a {{Canadian party colour|NL|NL}} case that is synonymous with {{Canadian party colour|NL|FPU}}, which I'm assuming is unintended. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 02:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

@Tamzin: Yes, that's how I meant it, and now that you've pointed it out I can see how easy it is to misinterpret. That's my bad for sure; I was attempting to summarize my request, and I just assumed whoever came to answer the request would be someone in the WP:CANADA community who's familiar with the template, and didn't even consider that another helpful editor would swing by. This is something I will absolutely keep in mind in future, and I apologize for the confusion I caused. With that in mind, allow me to amend my edit request: please add |FPU=32593f and |Reform Liberal=db7093 under the NEWFOUNDLAND section, and remove |NL|FPU=#32593f |NL|Reform Liberal=#db7093 from the CANADA section. — Kawnhr (talk) 05:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

@Kawnhr:   That should do 'er. Please let me know if there are any problems. And no worries about all this. Miscommunications happen, and no pages were actually made worse as a result of this mixup. :) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 05:22, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 31 March 2022

TrickieDickie1 (talk) 20:04, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 20:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi I dont know how to use wikipedia well at all.

The party colour for the Ontario Party should be changed to #112f53

Logo was changed, so a new colour is necessary https://www.ontarioparty.ca/our_platform_en TrickieDickie1 (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Done. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:06, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 4 May 2022

change TrickieDickie1 (talk) 17:36, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

change what? -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 13:48, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 10 May 2022

Hi there, the Populist Party Ontario (abbreviation "PPO") has officially been registered with Elections Ontario. Can its official colour be included in your colour coding? The hex code is #582C89 ( ). Thanks!! WiiDS (talk) 20:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

...anyone? WiiDS (talk) 18:35, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

I guess this is my job. Anyway, it's been done! :-) -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:56, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

You're awesome, thank you so much!! :) WiiDS (talk) 04:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Edit request for BC municipal party

Hi there, web developer for ABC Vancouver here (a new party running for the 2022 Vancouver municipal election; no Wikipedia page up for it yet). Our official colour is #14A2DC, could we have it put up please? Naturalapple (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Was anyone able to get around to this? Naturalapple (talk) 19:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Done (as well as the other parties). -- Earl Andrew - talk 14:13, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! 174.7.231.185 (talk) 21:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm the Communications Director for ABC. To differentiate ourselves from some of the other parties, we would like to use #E81F76 instead (it is one of our secondary colours, you can visit our official website abcvancouver.ca to confirm) 2604:3D08:9780:5A0:2596:EF0D:95FB:A6EC (talk) 22:46, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Fair point. Looks like you have three main colours to choose, and pink is more prominent than the light blue anyway on the website. -- Earl Andrew - talk 02:24, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Edit request to complete TfD nomination

Template:Canadian party colour has been listed at Templates for discussion (nomination), but it was protected, so it could not be tagged. Please add:

{{subst:tfm|help=off|1=Party color}}

to the top of the page to complete the nomination. Thank you. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 22:33, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

 Installed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 23:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

I have noincluded the TFM tag. It completley breaks all styling in canadian election infoboxes and shows the cell styling when displaying the TFM notice. Terasail^[✉️] 00:07, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Seems odd that the invoked Noinclude module didn't take care of that without the need for external noinclude tags. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 02:22, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth The noinclude module only applies to the |bigbox=yes parameter where the value "yes" is noincluded so that the template isn't big on transclusions, I just made it so that it is never transcluded. Terasail^[✉️] 20:25, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Mybad, because had I sandboxed it and checked it, I would have added the |type=disabled parameter to the same end. Thank you for catching that, editor Terasail, and a belated Happy New Year to you and yours! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 20:34, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Saskatchewan United Party colour

The SUP appears to have updated their branding, having gone to a blue-ish colour (#055284) with some red accenting instead of the lime green they were using before. ViperSnake151  Talk  22:26, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 12:27, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

The Saskatchewan United Party is different than the Saskatchewan Party. The latter is not changing its colours. Bkissin (talk) 17:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for that, editor Bkissin! Hopefully it's now  fixed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 22:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

But coud you please change the SUP colours, as ViperSnake151 proposed? Tundraski (talk) 21:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Here is editor ViperSnake151's proposal: #055284 =  ,

and {{Canadian party colour|SK|SUP}} or {{Canadian party colour|SK|Saskatchewan United Party}} = #055284

so  already edited. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 21:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Edit request to add BC United

Today, the BC Liberal Party changed their name to BC United. It seems best to add United as a new entry in the template rather than repurpose the existing Liberal one, so as to allow the old name and colour to be used in historical contexts.

Their new branding uses both pink and teal, but I propose using the pink (#DB1C63 =   ) as it will better contrast with the BC Conservative Party, which has had increased relevance in recent months.

So, please add |United=DB1C63 to Template:Canadian party colour/colour and |United=[[British Columbia United|United]] to Template:Canadian party colour/name. Thanks! — Kawnhr (talk) 02:10, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree about using pink for BCU -- browsing their website, it seems they're predominantly using teal (#19BFD2=   ), with pink as more of an accent colour. I also think on most displays this teal is distinct enough from the BC Conservatives' blue (currently #9999FF=  ). MAINEiac4434 (talk) 03:56, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Personally, I support using pink. It seems to be the consensus among the election mapping community from what I can tell. Also, the BC Liberals primarily used blue before, but that didn't stop us from using red for them. -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

I back using the pink as well. Their branding primarily highlights the pink colour in their logo in advertisements, not the teal. I would stick with that. Jebussez (talk) 14:46, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Have you considered that the colour is not teal or pink, but rather, dark grey? their billboards are mostly grey with a smaller and equal amount of pink and teal Hholdenday (talk) 15:41, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Grey is reserved for Independents.-- Earl Andrew - talk 15:50, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

I support using teal, as per @MAINEiac4434. Also since the BC United party is right of centre, I feel that teal is more appropriate; teal is similar to blue, which is traditionally the colour used by more conservative parties. — Eric0892 (talk) 19:20, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

This would be fair to say if BC United was an official merger of historical centre-right parties in BC, such as Social Credit and its descendent Reform Party - but they are not. They're a rebranding of the BC Liberals that chose the pink and teal colour scheme to specifically 'unite' their Liberal and Conservative voting base. Even if it was a strict merger, similarly to how Wikipedia chose to distinguish the historical Conservative/Progressive Conservative Party of Canada from the 2003 post-merger Conservative Party of Canada with different shades of blue, it would make more sense to do that here with BC United - a distinction but not separation from its history. Jebussez (talk) 04:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

I have no strong opinions on this, if the consensus is to use pink, then pink should be used. My own personal feelings is that we should broadly match how the party itself wants to look. And since the party appears to use teal more prominently than pink, that's why I think we should use teal. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 13:14, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

This is a fair point; I suppose it would make sense to use a colour more similar to the colour of its predecessor. — Eric0892 (talk) 20:23, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

all four CPBC logos since they returned to their old name

@Kawnhr: why don't we change the color of the conservative party, since 1990s at least (when they stopped calling themselves PC) they used dark blue (i know we use usually a more lighter shade than their logo but not always:   UCP in Alberta &   PCQ) Braganza (talk) 13:08, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

I have to admit that I didn't realize there would be debate over the colour, which makes me regret the way I made this request (phrasing it like my recommendation was obvious and not in dispute). Would it be better to start this again as an explicit discussion? — Kawnhr (talk) 17:50, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

And a discussion over the name too, maybe ("BC United" or simply "United")? — Kawnhr (talk) 17:53, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

yeah Braganza (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

both (the second one should be easy tho) Braganza (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

maybe we should make a RfC (Options: A) teal, pink & grey; B) BC United & United; C) for CPBC light blue & dark blue) so its more organized @Kawnhr: (sorry for the three replies) Braganza (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Alberta

is there a reason why Alberta Liberals & the now defunct Albertan PC use different colors? Braganza (talk) 13:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

@Kawnhr and Earl Andrew: we should change it imo Braganza (talk) 19:31, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, there was a movement several years ago to differentiate the federal party colours and the provincial party colours in provinces where the parties were not connected (i.e. not directly affiliated or connected with the federal Liberal or Conservative party). It is one of the reasons why, despite the BC Liberals having Liberal in the name, their colour was not the same colour red as the federal Liberals. I lean more on the side of keeping party colours as uniform as we can, but it is also not a hill I'm going to die on, so I'm fine with whatever decision is made. Bkissin (talk) 14:35, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I agree. We shouldn't be conveying information through colour alone. It's better to keep the colour scheme consistent unless we are doing something to more strongly differentiate the provincial parties from the federal ones. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:04, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Interesting. I'd been curious why the Alberta parties had their own colours, but never thought to ask, so I appreciate the explanation. If the only reason was because they organizationally split from their federal parties, then I would support moving them back to their standard colours. I agree with Bkissin that consistency is good, and I agree with Arctic Gnome that using the colour to indicate an organizational split is not really how it should be done (nor is it obvious); I'd also add that, even when provincial wings disaffiliate, they tend to remain in a similar ideological space and keep a close-but-informal relationship with their federal counterparts, so granting them a new colour seems excessive. I think only in instances where the former provincial wing undergoes undergoes significant ideological evolution or otherwise tries to distance itself from its federal counterpart — the BC Liberals, for example — is a new colour warranted. — Kawnhr (talk) 19:32, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

is anyone here allowed to edit it? Braganza (talk) 21:31, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Done; Alberta Liberals and PCs now use the default colours. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

thank you Braganza (talk) 20:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Single-Candidate Parties and others not included in the Template

Howdy folks! I just looked at the list of parties using the template for the first time in a while and noticed the section we have for Parties not included in template. If we are going this particular route, do we then need to remove some of the existing single-candidate or moribund parties that are currently on the list? I'm not saying throw out the baby with the bathwater (as I'd much rather see all the colours added), but we should consider standardizing our approach. Alliance of the North, which only ran one candidate, is listed on the Template (though without a color, which is strange) while both versions of the United Party are not listed, but had multiple failed candidates? Bkissin (talk) 18:27, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think we need to include parties who only ever ran one or two candidates. The template can accept custom values, so very little parties can be wikilinked in the field for the name of that party. Before parties had to register, there were lots of these little parties, so including all of them would make the template a bit bloated. But I agree that we need to standardize our approach. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 17:33, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

RfC: British Columbia United

Which colors should be used for British Columbia United and CPBC? Which short name should be used for --Braganza (talk) 21:28, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

• Options for colors to be used for British Columbia United:    Pink,    Teal,    Grey
• Options for the short name for British Columbia United: BC United, BCU, United
• Options for colors to be used for CPBC:    Light Blue,    Dark Blue

Survey

• Teal, BC United or BCU, Dark Blue, teal because it is dominant color and this is why i support dark blue too since the light blue color is just the color used by the national PC (but CPBC is not PC anymore since 1991) Braganza (talk) 21:39, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
• Pink-United, fine with either blue as long as it is easy to distinguish from the other colours on maps etc. Pink is likely better because it is closer to the historic Red used, and thus hopefully will stand out on maps. Teal may be too close to the Blue or Green colours to be used for the BC Conservatives and BC Greens. That said, generally I think we will use the colours that reliable sources (like the CBC, Global News, CTV etc) are using. As such it may be premature to decide this, as I will expand on further below.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
• Teal; United; Dark Blue; these colours align more with those that the parties use on their web site, advertisements, billboards, etc. — Eric0892 (talk) 00:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
• Teal; BC United; Dark Blue.--Autospark (talk) 08:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
• Pink; the abbreviation doesn't matter, as we can use more than one. Anyway, pink is closer to red, the colour we used for the Liberals, plus teal is too close to the blue used by the Conservatives and the Green used by the Greens. Also, 338 has already begun using pink, so we have one source showing that pink is preferred, though if other outlets (e.g. CBC) start using teal, I think we would also have to do the same. For the Conservatives, I don't think there's any reason to change the colour, so cornflower blue to match other conservative parties in Canada. -- Earl Andrew - talk 12:58, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
• Pink for their colour, as it stands out best amongst the other parties; the teal isn't so similar to Conservative blue that they're liable to be confused, but I think think it's better to use a wider spectrum of colours if possible, and BCU using pink equally allows for that. Simply United for their name, as I think "BC" is redundant – it's a BC party, BC is implied. We don't call them the "BC New Democratic Party" in infoboxes etc. I don't have a strong opinion on which colours the Tories have, but I lean towards keeping them at cornflower (light) blue for consistency with other Tory parties. — Kawnhr (talk) 14:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
• Teal; BC United; Dark Blue. --Checco (talk) 05:18, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
• Teal and BC United. I was going to add it to the module, but realised that there was a discussion for it. I was for pink, but seeing as the site is prominently teal, I'm for it. As the party isn't that long in name, BC United is preferable. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 17:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
• Dark Blue for CPBC. Why is it the current colour anyway? Did the party use this colour in the past? ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 17:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
• A Darker shade of Blue or a shade of Teal for its colours and BC United should be used in my opinion. BC United since that is their official name even if it may seem redundant. As well, just calling them United may not be the best idea because of the many corporations and and football teams using United as a diminutive, making it seem a bit less topical even if the page could be called United (political party). BC United is their official name (their website being votebcunited) and should be treated as such in my opinion as I stated earlier. Lexoomfie (talk) 21:41, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
• Teal; BC United; Dark Blue ― Teal seems to be the primary color in use by the party. "BC" seems to be a more integral part of the name than the province's other parties. Dark blue allows for greater internal consistency with the rest of the current provincial parties as the pastel colors seem to be dropping in use. Sticking to the color convention of the national party is only necessary to me if an official affiliation exists, which does not seem to be the case here. Windfarmer — talk 19:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
• Teal; BC United; Dark Blue. Teal is what they use on their branding, dark blue would match the BC Conservatives logo and internal consistency. TDK1881 (talk) 05:27, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

Pinging @Kawnhr, MAINEiac4434, Earl Andrew, Jebussez, Hholdenday, Eric0892, and Autospark: who took part in the discussion above or the discussion on British Columbia United. Also pinging @PLATEL and Briguychau: the former because he keeps Module:Political party up-to-date and the latter because they changed the color in File:British Columbia 42nd Legislature Seating Plan.svg Braganza (talk) 21:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

If we are going to just follow the lead of reliable sources (like the CBC, Global News, CTV etc) should we even be deciding this now? If media and pollsters all generally use the same colour for the United Party, are we going to do differently? I think not. So maybe, we should just wait to see what they do. As someone else mentioned, it is worth noting that 338Canada is using Pink. We may see other polling firms and poll aggregators make decisions soon too. I suspect something like a consensus will emerge among media and pollsters soon. Perhaps we will use a colour slightly lighter or darker as needed to contrast well on our maps and graphs, but I don't see us using Pink if everyone else is using Teal, or vice versa.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

a RfC can take up to a month, so there is some time Braganza (talk) 05:05, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

@Darryl Kerrigan's point is valid re: the media, however I think there's a good chance our choice here could factor into their decision making as well, bit of a chicken/egg moment. One thing I will add to this discussion, which is important despite it contradicting my own choice: the BC Legislative Assembly has made its own decision on this, and chose teal to represent BC United. You can view a screenshot here on Imgur or visit the Assembly website and sift through any recent webcasts. If we're going to factor in media, you can't get much more official than this. Jebussez (talk) 10:21, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, I made some mockups of what the proposed colours for BCU will look like against others in my sandbox. — Kawnhr (talk) 13:33, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

main-line national	main-line regional		Other national	Other regional		wexit
PC/Conservatives before    CPC	PCs   UCP   PCQ   Albertan PC   Yukon	Old NFL Conservatives   BC Unity   Union Nationale   Unité Nationale	PC Party    Reform    CA    PPC	BC Reform   SUP    Alberta Alliance   Wildrose	PANB   New Blue   Ontario Party   BCP	WCC    WIP    Alberta Party    Buffalo    WIP Alberta	Refederation    CoR    FCP    AIP

@Earl Andrew: it's true that we use manly one color but something i just want to mention is that there is still some variation among main conservative parties

Albertan PC despite being PC had it's unique color (i wonder why though, i wouldn't oppose it if you want to assimilate them into the other PCs) Braganza (talk) 14:14, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Right, but the difference there is that all the conservative and right-of-centre parties with their own blues are parties that were formed either independently or through splits and mergers. For example, the Union Nationale was formed by a merger between the original Conservative Party of Quebec and some dissident Liberals; likewise, the modern-day Conservative Party of Quebec has no legal lineage to the original party, so it has its own blue. There's some exceptions there (the Alberta PCs are one; the Yukon Party, which is just a rebranding of the old Yukon PCs, is another), and it's not like we absolutely have to stick to that rule, but there is a method to the madness. — Kawnhr (talk) 15:48, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Teal look good beside the other parties in the sandbox example. But we should keep an eye on what colour the media uses and be willing to change if a consensus develops. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 16:08, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@Arctic Gnome: this should be in #survey but yeah i agree Braganza (talk) 19:45, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for putting together those samples in your sandbox Kawnhr. I would encourage others to have a look. I think looking at them side by side it shows Pink would be a better contrast than Teal, which could be an important consideration for us (and for media/posters) when it comes time to create maps and graphs.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 20:31, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

• Well, here's a new development: 338Canada, which used pink for BCU, is now using teal. Also, Angus Reid, in their first poll after the rebranding, chose teal. Combined with that Legislative Assembly example above, I think a consensus is emerging here… though it may still be worthwhile to wait and see what other pollsters do. — Kawnhr (talk) 21:25, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the 338 change is interesting. Maybe, my eyes are deceiving me, but isn't Angus Reid using blue (more of a conservative blue), not teal? If so, that is odd. I note they do not chart BC Conservatives separately (just as part of a grey "other").--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 22:47, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, you're right: that is a blue. What I was trying to get at (but apparently got lost between my brain and my fingers) was "Angus Reid uses blue, which is similar to teal". But on further investigation, I see that Angus Reid used blue for the Liberals even before the name change (example), so that's moot. So not an indicator of anything after all. I'll strike that part… — Kawnhr (talk) 22:56, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The CBC has went with teal; if you take a look at CBC Vancouver's post regarding upcoming by-elections on their Instagram, the graphic they published uses teal for BC United. Interestingly, the article on their web site uses blue (which is similar to teal): https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/byelection-vancouver-langford-date-1.6857119. — Eric0892 (talk) 05:32, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

That seems like blue to me as well, not teal. When I pick the colour is says it is #6F90A5 which is apparently known as "Bermuda Gray" whatever that is. CBC doesn't include the BC Conservatives in that table, so they didn't need to consider any blue/blue conflict, which is a consideration for us. Or perhaps they just chose to avoid it by bumping the BC Conservatives out of the table and into the paragraph below. Perhaps when there is an general election they will grapple with that though, or perhaps they will punt again. I still think pink makes the most sense for contrast, but it seems like for now most others are using teal, blue, or "bermuda gray", and we should probably stick with some version of those unless WP:RS go in a different direction later (eg at general election time). For what it is worth the Angus Reid colour is #0070C0, which is apparently known as "Lochmara".--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:49, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

@Arctic.gnome: two votes for cornflower blue and seven for dark blue, so you should change the color of CPBC Braganza (talk) 07:17, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

@Frietjes: could you change the color of CPBC? Braganza (talk) 06:10, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

done here. Frietjes (talk) 16:04, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

thanks Braganza (talk) 17:06, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

@Frietjes: last ping, could you make "BC|Conservative (historical)" with the PC color? Braganza (talk) 17:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Braganza, assuming I did it correctly, done here. Frietjes (talk) 18:34, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Exactly thanks Braganza (talk) 18:35, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Saskatchewan Party

I've never understood why the colour of the party is lighter than it already is. I could understand if there were graphs that use the current colour, but there aren't. So I propose using this    green instead. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 18:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

You will note that the colours of many major parties are lighter than used in logos. This is done for a variety of reasons, such as being able to see text on it.-- Earl Andrew - talk 13:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)