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Dear Aramgutang[edit]

I am trying to get an idea what do you have in common with User:Tabib, playing role of Armenian guy at the same time. I get a feeling that there is something here that I don't quite understand. First of all, do you really speak Russian? Second, why you choose so obscure and anti-Armenian user name? Rovoam 22:39, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't think I have much in common with Tabib, and I disagree with most of his beliefs and contributions to Wikipedia. However, I do believe in Wikipedia's NPOV policy and that "history is a lie agreed upon" (--Voltaire), and thus that arguments should always be presented in the form of "this is what these people believe happened and this is what these other people believe is true" on Wikipedia, avoiding concrete statements of fact about any past event. Also, I am not "playing the role" of an Armenian guy, I am in fact Armenian, born and raised in Yerevan, thus I could (and still can) speak Russian in addition to Armenian from a very early age. Since my real name is Aram, a common Armenian name, I find the username Aramgutang to be a funny combination of my name and the word "orangutang". --Aramգուտանգ 00:15, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It sounds like it really does not matter much to you if history facts would be told based on Tabib's writings and not on Strabo, Plinius Secundos, Clavdius Ptolemeus writings... But... why referencing the above mentioned history sources should be prohibeted? Do Strabo, Plinius Secundos, Clavdius Ptolemeus support pro-Armenian point of view?
Why should we allow Tabib to present Azeri point of view and call it NPOV, not even trying to say that there are also other points of view, which are based on well known historical facts?
Should Wikipedia become Azeripedia or even Turkipedia? Is Wikipedia a good place for promoting Turkic and anti-Armenian propaganda? Is this what you call NPOV?
From what you just stated above, I understand that because the "history is a lie agreed upon", we don't have to try to do any historical research at all, and Azeri lie is the best lie ever. If your statement is true, what are you doing here, in Wikipedia? Don't you think you simply waste your time? I thought, we are here to learn something new and to share our knowledge with others. I don't mind excepting any truth (Arminian or non-Armenian), but I don't want lie, especially as a part of someone's propaganda (which has been created in purpose)!
Regards, Rovoam 01:01, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
You have to understand that I know very little about history, and it was never a subject that interested me. Thus I would have a hard time debating about historical facts, and I generally prefer not to get involved in things I know nothing about. I prefer to contribute to Armenian bias in Wikipedia constructively by writing articles about places in Armenia or important Armenians, rather than arguing endlessly with Turks or Azeris trying to push their agenda. Again, it's not that I agree with their version of history, it's that I don't know or care enough about history to argue with them. --Aramգուտանգ 14:47, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)


I have a few photos of Armenia. I can't believe it, but I don't have one of Khor Virap (I have a picture of a bad view from it.) I added a photo of a little model of the monastery I have.

I will look through my collection to find photos of other places and landmarks and get back to you. Dmn / Դմն 16:51, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I have just returned from my trip from Armenia and now I'm writing some articles about it into Slovenian (sl:) Wikipedia. Among other photos I also have a few from Khor Virap (not very successful, though, and the Ararat was not visible through clouds) but unfortunately at Geghard my camera's batteries emptied so if you are ready to share at least one with me. Otherwise thanks for correcting my contribution to Mer Hayrenik (obviously I do not speak Armenian). If you manage to find any errors at the Armenian alphabet at sl:Armenščina (I prepared it just before traveling there) feel free to drop remarks at its discussion ("pogovor") page. Maybe I can ask you about one detail about the alphabet I'm not quite sure about. If somebody doesn't do it with better photos I will add mine to your Armenian landmarks articles ASAP.

BTW for some other purposes I also "composed" a character converting script and it's usable for Wikipedia, too. It is available here and you also have "keyboards" with many European (and Armenian, too) languages characters. PHP source code is available upon request. --Fpga 07:26, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Oh, yes I also added some non religious facts to your Sanahin article. --Fpga 07:30, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Just uploaded my photos to Khor Virap. However I have no idea about their layout... --Fpga 09:36, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'm afraid that what I wrote under Lake Sevan in Armenian script is actually a town, not the lake. So if you can take a second and check this out... What about words containing 'և', is this letter replaced by 'եվ' in Western Armenian? Unfortunately I don't have any photos from Geghard as my camera batteries were empty while being there :-( --Fpga 06:25, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'm writing an article (with photos) about Odzun, a well known church just above Alaverdi, and I don't know how to write it in Armenian script. Probably it can't start with 'Ո' as in that case it would probably be "Vodzun" while the letter 'Օ' is probably younger than the church and reserved for the words of foreign origin. --Fpga 09:16, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Is Lake Sevan in Armenian written as Սեվանի լիչ (western) and Սևանի լիչ (eastern) or should չ be replaced by ճ? BTW, Odzun is finnished from my side. --Fpga 11:01, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I don't iknow if you have noticed my article about a khachkar which is probably the last one with my photos from Armenia. Maybe it would be interesting to write the word in Armenian script (2 possible letters for 'ch', 'k' and 'r' give 2^3=8 possible combinations) and if you have any objections against its transliteration into English (or anything else inside the article), please let me know about it so that I can update Slovenian article. --Fpga 12:41, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Unicode conversion[edit]

With regards to your Unicode conversion script: I don’t see the need for it. All current browsers I know of will already convert characters outside of the webpage’s encoding into numeric references. Am I missing something here, or is this only intended for really archaic webbrowsers of the Mosaic generation, such as Netscape (pre-Mozilla) and MSIE≤4 ? [[User:Anárion|File:Anarion.png]] 09:29, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I understand now: I meant that if I type the actual characters (e.g. Какой-нибудь текст в Кириллице), if the page encoding does not support it (and then no matter what encoding is used), it will be changed into numeric references. I was not talking about typing e.g. Êàêîé-íèáóäü òåêñò â Êèðèëëèöå and then relying on the encoding magic to transcribe them into Russian. I now understand what you would use your script for — but as I generally type the characters directly it is not something I’d ever need. Thanks for clarifying! [[User:Anárion|File:Anarion.png]] 21:46, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yerevan's population[edit]

Hi, I used this page. By the way, do you know what the red portion here represents? Is it only the city of Yerevan or is it some kind of a municipality or a province? --webkid 21:14, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I responded on your talk page. --Aramgutang 22:18, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

U.S. embargo against Cuba[edit]

You voted for U.S. embargo against Cuba, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.


Hi Aram, I thought you'd find it interesting that an Armenian focus wiki has been started called - it is not officially announced yet, just being quietly worked on, but it is almost fully functional. -Raffi


Alla Pugacheva done .LOL:) Vorash 00:56, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Armenian-language Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Aramgutang,

I just thought you might be interested in knowing that an Armenian version of Wikipedia also exists.

It doesn't have much content yet at all, but it could use some help from somebody like you...


Hi, I see you've edited the Nagorno-Karabakh article. There is a fierce dispute over the contents of this page right now and I have coaxed the disputants over to the talk page and am attempting to get them to work together. They have begun working together (a little). I am serving as an unlicensed mediator. The ground rules I set in order to get them to stop reverting each other were that I would lock down the main page and perform any agreed-to edits; so far there have been no agreements — and both parties are preparing their own versions in their user space. The only changes I have made so far to the article are the removal of the contentious bits. My 'lock-down' and authority in this matter is, of course, entirely a bluff. If you visit Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh, you'll find my rules — one of which is a promise to recuse myself upon request; anyone's request. This whole process has been brought to a fair number of people's attention and I've gotten no requests yet, so I infer a tacit approval.

I'm going to have to revert your changes in order to maintain my arrangement with the disputants. I promise that I will get your changes into the article again (I'm aware of quite a number of short comings to the current placeholder page). I would really welcome your participation on the talk pages (pages is more accurate; it's 180K and counting). Thanks for your understanding and sorry, really sorry, about the revert. — Davenbelle 14:21, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your understanding; I have proposed to the disputants that they agree to your change: Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh#Aramgutang's_edit. I'm really rather glad this has come up as something is needed to move things along, and I do understand your reluctance to get drawn into their 60 page discussion. I am not well versed in the issues they are delving into, however I continue to find this interesting. Tabib invited me into this debate to offer a third-party opinion — presumably because I edited the N-K page a few times last month to clean-up the infobox (diff, plus a few further adjustments). I had noted your earlier contributions and was considering dropping you an invite. I will, of course, take you up on your offer of assistance with specific issues that may come up. Thanks again, Davenbelle 21:53, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

Nagorno Karabakh Republic - New Version of the Article[edit]

Dear Aramgutang:

I need your help. Could you please check my new version of the article: User:Rovoam/Nagorno Karabakh Republic and express your opinion?

Thank you Rovoam 19:47, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I suggest myself as a candidate to mediate the article. I already made my initial assesments. -- Cat chi? 08:16, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You are welcome to point out what you have your resrevations for in the article. Thanks.


Good timing; I was just looking at all the POV pushing in the Armenia article; I was thinking that most of the last week's 'contribs' needed removal (I will leave it as your call.) — Davenbelle 01:05, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)


Hi Aramgutang - you wrote: I would like to suggest that the Czechia-geo-stub be unprotected, because even if the edit war continues and escalates, it will not affect the readers looking at the articles with the stub message a great deal. The current protected message box is big and unsightly and may lead readers to think that the article itself is protected. What's even worse, the talk page link in the message box points to the article's talk page, instead of the template's talk page.

The protection message should have been on the template's talk page (where it is now). What the reader sees is irrelevant as far as stub templates and categorisation are concerned. Repeated changing of stub categories requires a lot of work from stub sorters. For every edit that is being made by NoPuzzleStranger and (his probable sockpuppet) Starky to change a stub category, 101 are currently required by stub sorters to revert it, since every article in the category requires a null-edit to move it to the correct categorisation. For that reason the protection is necessary - stub sorters are overworked enough without having to perform massive extra duties every time a stub template is moved. Grutness|hello? Grutness.jpg 02:50, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Call for cooperation over Nagorno-Karabakh[edit]

Hi Aram,

Today Rovoam vandalized the N-K page again. He disappeared for a while after his username and some of the IPs he operated under were blocked. I had a little hope that he's gone for good, but unfortunately, this wasn't the case. I am afraid that this person, even if blocked, will return from time to time and acting under various IPs will vandalize the N-K page. I will revert all his vandalisms (be it explicit or implicit) and I know that many other editors will do the same, as they did before.

The page version which is in place is certainly not that bad in terms of neutrality and accuracy, although it certainly needs further improvement. And we both agreed on this important point. If the current content, despite all of its deficiencies, is generally acceptable to both you and me, then I believe there can be only two reasons why the current version is not acceptable to Rovoam: 1) he wants the page to reflect one-sided nationalist propaganda, and/or 2) he vandalizes the page simply out of feeling of revenge and personal enmity against me. Most probably both factors are applicable.

Aram, I want to suggest you cooperation over Nagorno-Karabakh page. Let’s join our efforts to protect Nagorno-Karabakh page from nationalist propaganda and vandalism (whether from Azeri or Armenian or even “neutrall” sides) and also to improve it further to reflect both viewpoints equally and accurately. Certainly this doesn't mean that we will ignore third party opinions, but I believe if we can achieve a consensus between ourselves, then third parties will support our decision too.

I am being completely serious and sincere, this is no April day joke. I believe we, you and me, need no mediators for that. The only thing we need to deal with this problem is good will, deferential attitude and honest conduct. In my opinion, all other differences can be solved provided these preconditions exist. (btw, I believe same is true for wider Karabakh conflict). I have seen all these qualities in you during our previous discussions in Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh. That;s why I believe we can come into terms with you and not with Rovoam.

Rovoam knew history well, but he was not honest and constantly manipulated with facts and opinions. If not these intentions he would be very useful for Wikipedia. On the other hand, I know you are not a historian, and may not have enough knowledge of the issue. I realize that this may be a disadvantage for you and perhaps even a deterring factor for you to accept my suggestion, but still I believe, you can detect truth from lie and differentiate between NPOV and POV. Also if needed, you may conduct a small research on some points which you deem contentious and learn both viewpoints on that particular point. On my turn, I would gladly help you with anything I can, for example by providing links to various pro-Armenian and pro-Azeri online sources on history, politics etc. concerning the conflict.

Certainly, we both have our personal views, I have my own biases, of which I may or may not be aware of. For example my views regarding history of Azerbaijan, Armenia, Armenian-Azeri conflict, “Armenian genocide” etc. may drastically differ from yours or many other’s views. And this is normal and should be treated as such. Every person has his own personal views, beliefs and biases. But, in my view, what is more important is not to become a prisoner of one’s own biases, to remain open for outside ideas and finally, to be honest in one’s actions. I haven’t seen these qualities in Rovoam, who played every possible and impossible trick to push for his bias and discredit me. But I have seen all these qualities in you. That’s why I trust you and call for your cooperation.

If interested, please, write me at tabibhus(at)gmail(dot)com. We can also discuss how to proceed further in the talkpage. For example, please, let me know what would you add/remove/change in the page. Maybe we can even incorporate some of Rovoam’s earlier edits mentioning author’s of antiquity, perhaps this may calm him down a bit... Hope to hear from you.--Tabib 13:03, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Aram. Thanks for your reply. I've sent you an email, hope you'll get it. Good luck with midterm exams.--Tabib 13:25, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Ok, agreed then, we'll proceed in talkpages. I hope you wouldn't mind me also dropping you emails from time to time ;-). Thus, Talk:N-K/Aram&Tabib (or any other name) or User talk:../N-K could be the options to consider. When you have time, please create a subsection you prefer and let me know. Aram, I also want to say once again that it may not be an easy task for us, we may disagree on many issues, we may dispute, but I am confident that we can solve all our differences through deferential and honest conduct of discussions and we'll find mutually acceptable formulations on each contentious issue. I really do believe this. Best wishes. --Tabib 05:11, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Re:Commons Photos[edit]

've noticed that you've been uploading pretty much all of your images to Wikipedia, rather than Wikimedia Commons. Please consider uploading them to the latter instead, since that is the method now recommended by Wikipedia, it avoids redundant image copies on different language servers, and provides an appropriate context for a large amount of pictures on the same topic (thus avoiding "additional photos" sections, such as the one in Blackberry). Oh, and great job with all the photos, keep it up! --Aramգուտանգ 12:28, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Is there any particular reason why Wikipedia is recommending uploading to the commons? And how exactly does it provide an appropriate context for a large amount of pictures on the same topic (do you have any examples?).
Do you think its a bad idea having "additional photos"?
When you insert an image from the commons to a page in the English Wikipedia, do you still use the "Image:Image.jpg|thumb]]" format?
The main reason I don't particularly want to change over to the commons is because when you click on an image you only see the image. To see the description you have to rederict to the commons page.
--Fir0002 23:54, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hawaiian Baby Woodrose[edit]

Aramgutang- i think your work on the Hawaiian baby woodrose entry has been great. As you can see, i've organized everything in the hallucinogens category into their respective sub-categories to make it a bit more specific and reduce clutter. Hawaiian Baby Woodrose is already in the hallucinogens category by virtue of it's being in the Lysergamides category, a sub-category of hallucinogens; general policy is to not have an item in both a higher category and a sub-category . I do, however, think that it should be in the entheogens category as well as lysergamides. thanks! --Heah 04:49, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

responded on User talk:Heah#Hawaiian baby woodrose --Aramգուտանգ 05:07, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the repeat. "are all lysergamides necessarily hallucinogens?" is something i've been taking into account, and over the next few days am going to add another category for most of those, eg, a hallucinogenic tryptamines category as a subcategory of both tryptamines and hallucinogens, with the tryptamines category no longer a sub-category of hallucinogens. But i haven't quite gotten to it yet. thanks. --Heah 05:12, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikicommons FPC[edit]

Hi aramgutang, I was trying to nominate some pictures for the commons FPC, but I found that the nomination would keep disapperaing. Any ideas as to what might be happening? I think it has something to do with "#.5B.5B:" being in all the other nominations --Fir0002 11:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Commons photos[edit]

Hi Aramgutang, A couple of photos I've uploaded to the Commons have the same file name as those in the en.wikipedia, and when i try to insert them the en.wikipedia photos are used. Short of reuploading the photos (a real pain for me - slow internet connection) is there any way to specify that the photo is coming from the commons? Thanks --Fir0002 09:42, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Re:Dropping a note[edit]

Hi Aram,

Glad to hear from you and congrats with your graduation. I completely understand your situation, I myself am very busy at work these days and in the coming month as well, so I dont have much time left for Wikipedia. Unfortunately, this is the time, when various sorts of vandals (esp. Rovoam and perhaps, that banned Baku Ibne/LIGerasimova and since recently, User:Pantherarosa) start attacking me again, erroneously thinking that by such malicious acts they can get me down.

I believe the N-K entry has become rather objective and factually correct. All these discussions/disputes have actually helped the development of this entry. Certainly, it doesn't mean that we cannot improve it even further by adding new info and working out on new formulations. I do not think that one can seriously think that Rovoam can contribute to Wikipedia. Frankly, after seeing all his actions, I genuinely think, this person is not quite mentally healthy. But, in any case, in case you have some time and willingness, please, visit Nagorno-Karabakh/Temp. This has been set by Tony for users to introduce changes they prefer and discuss them in advance before making edits. So, I would suggest you using that too for your edits. My best. I am really glad that I have at least one Armenian counterpart with whom I have normal relationships ;-)--Tabib 13:42, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Moves / copies[edit]

Thanks for the advice on this. Will bear it in mind for the future. All the best. Is this the correct way to message another user btw? - SP-KP 18:18, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Sergei Parajanov==[edit]

Could you perhaps add Sergei Parajanov's Armenian name in his article? --Explendido Rocha 1 July 2005 10:48 (UTC)

Done. --Aramգուտանգ 1 July 2005 19:07 (UTC)

Red deer[edit]

Fixed. --nixie 7 July 2005 06:36 (UTC)


The edit I made to the Armenia article from 40% to 90% is much more accurate and the number is very close to being 90% if not that. By the way I am also Armenian born in Yerevan.--Moosh88 19:54, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, that's why I kept it :) Good to see a fellow native Armenian on Wikipedia, as opposed to members of the Diaspora. --Aramգուտանգ 00:13, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, there is just something good about being an Armenian born in Armenia, LOL. But anyways I was wondering if you have any sources for el_c. I found one but it might not be enough for him, so if you could post one too one the Armenia talk page that would be great. By the way there are some really good Armenian sites on the web, if you'd like me to give you the url just let me know.--Moosh88 01:57, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Please comment[edit]

I would like you to comment regarding Moosh88, the "historian," and his last answer on my talk page. Had the word been written in English, obviously the guy would have lost any credibility he had, and been warned by administrators, or even getting an Arbcom cases against him. I wondered if I should simply edit his message, by having a translation of the word in parentheses, or simply delete the entire stuff, as if nothing happened. It is a pitty, that in a site, where people are supposed to be grown up individuals, one can get attacked this way, for something that he doesn't even know the reason for. That makes me wonder if Wikipedia should not have an ignore list, and members could actually decide whom to block from their talk pages. Regards. Fadix (My Talk) 02:17, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't think you can compare his cases with Rovoams. Rovoam was behaving at the beggining, he was an univolved party, who was neither Azeris or Armenian and whom got angered by an Azeris nationalist, and could not digest Admins being blind enough to not realise that a political scientist of the republic of Azerbaijan, working for an organization that concerns Azerbaijani political parties, and author of a propaganda website could come here and use Wikipedia space as a continuation of his website. Rovoam losses, was not only his fault, some Admins are also to be blamed there, Rovoams loss of control was understandble due to the circonstances, many Admins only have seen his rv wars, and judged him from it. You can't compare him in anyway to Moosh88; Moosh88 was rude for no understandble reason. I've spent dozens of hours on fighting POV pushers at the Armenian genocide website, I have created two articles as extension of that entry, I have 3 others pending. The guy come in and ask me to answer to some accusations of me being anti-Armenian. Would you seriously answer to such questions, if someone was to ask you this? And then, he finish the discussion by calling me a "boz." Fadix (My Talk) 16:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Point taken. You'd be a good admin candidate. :) Fadix (My Talk) 18:01, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

If you have something to say about me, why don't you post it on my talk page so that I can see? That would be helpful. And now I'm confused with what you claim I wrote in your talk page. I just asked you if you'd like my help with Armenian related articles. If you could leave me a message on my talk page I'm sure we could clear this up, thanks!--Moosh88 06:12, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to assume Moosh's post above is addressed to Fadix, correct me if I'm wrong. --Aramգուտանգ 06:16, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it is Aram. I'd like you to send me an istant message or an e-mail, because I'm confused at the moment about fedix. Tell me if you'd be willing to send me an instant message on your resond to this message.--Moosh88 06:19, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

If you want to E-mail me, just use the "E-mail this user" link on the right, to IM me, my AIM screenname is "Aramgutangg" (with two g's, the name with one g was already taken, go figure), but I only run IM from home, and I'm not home most of the day, so e-mail might often be a faster way to reach me. --Aramգուտանգ 17:52, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't see the "e-mail this user" link anywhere. I will try to send you a instant message.--Moosh88 20:04, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Native Armenian template[edit]

I've created the Template:User_hy-N template. That's Western Armenian, is it alright for the Easterns too? Oh and, I edited the basic Armenian template too, "քործգործածող" is really not a good term, I believe, since it doesn't really mean what "user" in the English template mean. Fadix (My Talk) 16:38, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Please Read[edit]

Hello Aram, I would like you to take a look at this site and tell me what your thoughts on it are. Thank you!--Moosh88 20:13, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

The article is not one sided it just shows you the facts and gives very good reasons as to why it is that way. At the end of the article the author even states that most jews in the u.s. know nothing of it. It's not like he is preaching hate, he just wants Armenians to be informed of this treachery my some jewish lobbying groups and for Armenians to change it. I do agree with you that Armenia has other problems to worry about, but the Genocide is not something to be taken lightly. And for many diaspora Armenians it is the most important issue. Send me an e-mail something at [removed to avoid spam - see page history if needed] I would like to discuss this and other things with you in a more private fashon.--Moosh88 05:33, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Eminem is Black[edit]

Hey Aram, i searched online, but couldnt find a transcript. Dr. Dre said that on a VH1 show about Eminem (it may have been "Ultimate Albums" but im not quite sure) Did you want me to add a reference to a VH1 show at the Eminem wikipedia thing? --Scotsworth 16:20, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Gherla / Hayakaghak[edit]

Parev, Aram! I want to ask you something. There is in Transylvania (Romania) an Armenian town, called Gherla in Romanian, and Hayakaghak in Armenian.

Personally I don't speak and write, but some liturgical Armenian. I began anyway an article on the Armenian Wikipedia, with the name Հայաքաղաք (Հայաքաղաք ). That's why I pray you to translate into Armenian any of the information available on the English-speaking Wikipedia (Gherla). Thank you! -- ()

edit war at Armenian language / vandalism on its talk page[edit]

Hi, I'm having some trouble with an IP deleting any reference to foreign influence on Armenian language's phonology and vocabulary, namely Turkish influence. Besides, the IP deletes talk page sections he doesn't like. It would be nice if you could keep Armenian language and Talk:Armenian_language on your watchlist. --Tickle me 03:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Missak Manouchian[edit]

Hi, Aram. Could you help me a bit? I've created this page by translating French Wiki, and I thought it would be nice if it had the Armenian spelling of his name. Thing is, I do not know how to - Western or Eastern, and also not familiar with how sylablles should be rendered (which I, which ch, etc.) Thanks in advance. Dahn 13:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. For the transliteration, let's not forget "Manushian" :). Dahn 18:58, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Eavesdropping on your crystal problem[edit]

I noticed your question over on Vsmith's talk page about the identity of the artificial crystal in Image:Artificial crystals.jpg. Unfortunately, I can't answer your question, but you might try posting a request over at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science. Some excellent photographs, by the way. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 06:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your question on the Reference Desk. The crystal looks like a bismuth "hopper crystal". Hope this helps. — TheKMantalk 22:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:NKR Coat of Arms.gif[edit]

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:NKR Coat of Arms.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page to provide the necessary information on the source or licensing of this image (if you have any), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.


Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Verneuil process, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Gurubrahma 06:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Artificial crystals photo[edit]

Hi there. I apologize for my extremely belated reply; I've been largely inactive lately, although I hope to change that over the next few weeks. To answer your query, your mystery specimen is bismuth, which is trigonal in structure. The labyrinthine habit and oxidated layer this element develops is quite attractive, making synthetic crystals popular collector's pieces. Wikipedia's article on the subject would be greatly enhanced by your photo.

As an aside, I'm quite impressed with your article on the Verneuil process! That's one of the topics I had meant to address before going AWOL (as many gemmology-related articles pointed to it), but you've handled it wonderfully. Congrats, and thanks! -- Hadal 07:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

azeri POV pusher(s)[edit]

Barev Aram, I would really like your help in keeping an eye on user baku87. He is from azerbaijan and he recently joined wiki and is now adding baised edits to articles, mainly the Military of Armenia article and the Military of Azerbaijan article. I hope you will be able to help me with this problem, which has been escalating. Now they have three pro azeri users ganging up on me and trying to start a wiki war, which is always useless.

I also think that baku87 may have a sockpuppet, the new user's name is druffc. He just joined, and he edited some things on the Military of Armenia article which he claimed as being POV, but then added azeri POV. I am hoping you will take time to look at this problem and if it needs be, protect the Military of Armenia from edits.

Please get back to me as soon as possible, I really need your help.--Moosh88 20:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Anything you can do, no matter how small will help. If you looked at the talk page for the Military of Armenia article, can you post something there to atleast back me up, because it's 3 against 1 and as of now I'm the only one defending the Armenian point. I can understand your frustration with wikipedia, I feel the same way majority of the time, but we can't let the azeri-turk coaltion dictate how Armenian related article will written and then not allow anyone to edit their baised articles. As a proud Armenian, I hope you will atleast attempt to give me some sort of aid. Hope to hear from you soon!--Moosh88 21:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Yerevan Metro[edit]

Привет. The article which your colleagues started has received quite an impulse from me, can I ask you to check the translits and maybe expand? --Kuban Cossack 22:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject: Armenia[edit]

Hakob and I, decided to make a Wikiproject for Armenia. We hope that you and other Armenian wikipedia editors, will take the time to expand Armenian related articles and create new articles on topics currently without one. Please feel free to share your thoughts on the project and have fun! Here is the link: --Moosh88 01:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


Sedat Laciner is on Wikipedia contributing under two different usernames, please keep and eye on him, as he has already begun his POV pushing campaign. His user name is Slaciner, I don't know the other name he uses. Please contact me if you have any questions or something important comes up, thanks!--Moosh88 23:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Page Move[edit]

Thanks, its a good point. I had forgot all about the move button for some reason. -- Sfnhltb 18:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

It was nice to actually have some text to work with inside wiki for once, considering how old the project nowadays it was fairly shocking how bare the Geography of Costa Rica category was - about 20 articles below the top level stuff, half of them stubs as of last week. -- Sfnhltb 18:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Death's-head Hawkmoth images[edit]

Thanks for contributing Image:Acherontia atropos.jpg and Image:Death's Head close-ups.jpg to Wikipedia. I am afraid the images will likely be deleted soon, unless they are relicensed. (Wikipedia currently does not allow images licensed only for non-commercial use.) In case of the second image, you claim that you have made it using images "from various sources", which brings a question whether you are in a position to submit it under any license. For details, see Wikipedia:Image use policy.

Sorry for any inconvenience. Regards, Mike Rosoft 21:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Yerevan locator map[edit]

Hey, can you recreate it. I can't seem to find it anywhere.--Eupator 15:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

When are we Going to See Proof that Azaris are Genetically Turkic[edit]

Please keep an eye on Azari and the talk:Azari. I have started the following in the discussion.

It has been ages since these citations have not been verified. Verification is needed. If not delete the material. the amount of time granted has been generious. The Azaris Iranian background has been verified through various scientific and academic sources, but the Turkic claim has not. The only think that has been verified is the Turkic langauge.

Country survey for Wikipedia:WikiProject Armenia[edit]

Which country do you live in specifically (I'm doing this so I can include a flag next to your name on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Armenia participation list). -- Clevelander 20:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Gavrilov translation[edit]

Updated DYK query On 20 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gavrilov translation, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Nice article! Had no idea of their existance before and the rationale for noseclips was neat. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 06:22, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


How's this tweak (on main page)? -- Samir धर्म 06:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Death's Head close-ups.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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Image:Acherontia atropos.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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Image:Aragats south.jpg[edit]

Possibly unfree Image:Aragats south.jpg[edit]

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WikiProject Pharmacology Collaboration of the Week[edit]

WikiProject Pharmacology is currently organizing a new Collaboration of the Week program, designed to bring drug and medication related articles up to featured status. We're currently soliciting nominations and/or voting on nominations for the first WP:RxCOTW, to begin on September 5, 2007. Please stop by the Pharmacology Collaboration of the Week page to participate! Thanks! Dr. Cash 17:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Pharmacology Collaboration of the Week[edit]

Aspirin has been selected as this week's Pharmacology Collaboration of the Week! Please help us bring this article up to featured standards during the week. The goal is to nominate this at WP:FAC on September 10, 2007.

Also, please visitWP:RxCOTW to support other articles for the next COTW. Articles that have been nominated thus far include Doxorubicin, Paracetamol (in the lead with 4 support votes so far), Muscle relaxant, Ethanol, and Bufotenin.

In other news:

  • The Wikipedia:WikiProject Pharmacology main page has been updated and overhauled, to make it easier to find things, as well as to highlight other goals and announcements for the project.
  • Fvasconcellos notes that discussion is ongoing regarding the current wording of MEDMOS on including dosage information in drug articles. All input is welcome.

Dr. Cash 00:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Pharmacology Update[edit]

Here's a brief update in some of the recent developments of WikiProject Pharmacology!

  • Aspirin has just completed its two week run as the first Collaboration of the Week! Many thanks to those editors that contributed; the article got a lot of good work accomplished, and in particular, much work was done in fixing up the history section. It's still not quite "done" yet (is a wikipedia article really ever done?), but after two weeks I think it's more important to push onwards with the development of the new collaboration of the week program. I will be fixing up Aspirin in the next few days and possibly nominating it for either GA or FA status.
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