User:Who/Discussion log/September 2005
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September 2005
[edit]Congrats
[edit]
Congrats on getting the mop! So have one! -- Essjay · Talk 22:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Category:Marriage, unions and partnerships by country
[edit]Hi Who,
You've voted to delete "Category:Marriage, unions and partnerships by country" saying you "don't see the need to cat biographies in this way." This isn't a category about biographies. I think your vote is misplaced, and as I would really like to see this category stay, I was wondering if you could update your vote. Thanks! -- Reinyday, 20:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
BASIC programming language
[edit]I see you have contributed to the BASIC programming language article on Wikipedia. Any chance you would like to join in editing the wikibook: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Visual_Basic_Classic? --Kjwhitefoot 10:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Congrats!
[edit]Hey buddy, welcome to the cabal. Now go remove those tables Essjay and I added to your user and talk pages! :P Redwolf24 (talk) 06:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- Indeed, congratulations! --Kbdank71 14:54, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
RFA
[edit]Congrats! Your RFA bid is sucessful! However, as you know, the bug in the system is keeping us from setting sysop rights. Once resolved, we'll formally promote you. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:17, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations in advance
[edit]Congratulations (in advance) on receiving your adminship. By the time you return from your out of town trip you should be able to make great use of the additional features. :D Hall Monitor 20:32, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
Who is the latest admin? I mean, Who is the latest admin! Congrats! (and you'd still be back in time to vote on my RfA. ;) ) Owen× ☎ 02:47, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you! Point well taken. I regretted that unfortunate Edit summary as soon as I hit the 'Save' key. I'm sure there are other instances where I could have worded my comments better. Owen× ☎ 19:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thanks
[edit]Hi thanks for the heads up about user contributions. The edit was mostly a joke. I've been friends with Phidauex since third grade. TitaniumDreads 07:36, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, not a problem. I didn't think it was vandalism, but better safe than sorry, and we try to set a good example of not editing others userpages. I do it sometimes too :) But I figured it was just a redundant link anyhoo. Thanks for the note. ∞Who?¿? 07:39, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
- interestingly, redundancy is frequently quite useful and can, with judicious use, create a better user experience. For instance, the toolbox is an ever present menu and hence isn't looked at every time a new page loads. Seeing the "extra" link reminds users that the possibility exists. Also, not sure if you saw my user page but feel free to edit as you see fit, and we haven't even been friends since third grade :-) TitaniumDreads 07:47, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
See ya
[edit]Have a good time on your trip. Acetic'Acid 03:27, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
P.S. You were right. Red's page is monitored. :)
- Omg I like, feel soo violated, reading my posts ;-p </sarcasm> . thanks for the note. ∞Who?¿? 03:31, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- You won't be back until October 4th??! You mean I'll actually have to pitch in? Nuts. Oh well, have a good time, hope the weather is good wherever you end up. --Kbdank71 17:46, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Can you provide a source for this image? Zach (Sound Off) 21:01, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
- Unfortunately no. That's before I knew any better, and assumed it was PD. I think I had a source at the time, but think it should definately be deleted now. ∞Who?¿? 23:25, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
bot assisted cfr tagging
[edit]Hi - Do you suppose it would be a good idea to crank up the whobot and cfru-tag:
- subcats of Forts by country
- subcats of the sports venue cats:
American football venues,Baseball venues,Basketball venues,Cricket grounds, Football (soccer) venues by country,Golf clubs and courses,Motor racing circuits - subcats of Airports
The discussion on whether this is necessary doesn't seem to be highly active, so I think it might be best (at least for now) to assume this IS necessary. If you could do this (bot-assisted) I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- I did some by hand. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:24, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Very cool. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Blocked-eth
[edit]Thine vandal has been blocked-eth. -- Essjay · Talk 03:53, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
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Thanks for the support. It's especially lame being in an edit war over categories. dbenbenn | talk 21:14, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yea thought it was kind of weird too. I personally don't care which way they are, just don't need redundancy, and there was consensus this time, so I just followed it. ∞Who?¿? 21:17, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
cfr tagging for renaming by-country categories
[edit]Hi - That was a good catch. Requiring cfr tags probably adds more inertia than some folks would like. There's going to be a suggestion to rename all the subcats of all the subcats of category:Occupations by nationality (perhaps several thousand categories) from "fooish <occupation name>" to "<occupation name> from foo". I think change without notice is generally a bad thing (although not as bad as deleting images without notice!), but may be OK in this case. We'll see how the discussion goes. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick Block (talk • contribs) 16:22, 25 September 2005
- The only draw back to not tagging them, is I recently just got finished with the "Films by director Foo" cats, and although they were all tagged, by me, there was still a question after it was said and done. See above entry. I think we should consider it and discuss it, but it's been pretty decent on the smaller speedy renames w/o the tag. ∞Who?¿? 16:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
- I think the idea is we'll use standard CFD for changes to the by country conventions, but cfd/speedy for cats that are misaligned with the established conventions (which I think makes sense). Sorry about not signing (no idea how that happened, my fingers pretty much automatically type "-- ~~~~" - weird). -- Rick Block (talk) 16:58, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
with User:Brian0918
The renaming of this to "Films directed by Powell and Pressburger" isn't completely correct. It's true that they were dual directors on many of the films, but on some of them, Pressburger was only the writer, but they are still considered films of "Powell and Pressburger". — BRIAN0918 • 2005-09-25 15:48
How about just "Films by Powell and Pressburger" or "Films made by Powell and Pressburger" or "Films created by Powell and Pressburger"? Something along those lines would be alright. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-09-25 15:56
I am sorry, I tried to talk to User:LevKamensky but his talkpage is locked.
[edit]with Flat-Earther
- So, I have to use his user page to communicate with him. Flat-Earther 13:27, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ahh, so it is. I appologize. It seems he is indefinitely blocked however, so he will not be able to respond to you anyhow. It is just frowned upon to edit one's userpage, if you need to do so, its better to make it at the top or bottom and not in the middle, but only in this type of circumstance. This way it does not look like you are vandalizing the page. Thanks for the reply, I have marked his userpage as blocked. ∞Who?¿? 13:36, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Image syntax
[edit]with User:209.178.175.191 Hey. Not sure what the barnstar was for, but thanks, I guess. If you want to experiment, try using the sandbox. Also, instead of using html code for paragraph and center, you can do this:
- [[Image:Barnstar.png|center|Angela's Star]]
which will center the image. See Wikipedia:Extended image syntax for more image usage. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 05:38, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you!
signatures
[edit]- Hi, you can sign your name with time stamp using ~~~~. It makes it easier for other users to see who wrote what and when, on talk pages. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 05:24, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you I will try that. John McW 06:11, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you I will try that. John McW 06:11, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
User:209.178.175.191
[edit]with Jobe6
- D'oh! of course you already thanked them on their talk page. I wasn't sure what to think of the edit, they did the same thing to Jimbo's page. I appologize if you disagree with the rv. ∞Who?¿? 05:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Im not sure whta i got a barnstar for either, but if u get a barnstar for no reason then i guess you gotta thank em. JobE6 .svg){kind=small}
05:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
You must be really bored...
[edit]with Sasquatch
- to be fixing up my talk page! lol =) But thanks for the nice aesthetics. Sasquatcht|c 05:07, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Hehe, I just hate unsigned comments :) Way too much Cfd work to be bored tho. ∞Who?¿? 05:08, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thanks
[edit]with FreplySpang and Owen×
- Thanks for neatening up the anon comment on my user talk page! Cheers, FreplySpang (talk) 00:21, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
You're very welcome. Was hard to tell the message w/o a header :) ∞Who?¿? 00:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my User page. I was so busy chasing other vandals I didn't even notice it... Owen× ☎ 04:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
with CalJW
- I do not agree with the outcome you have declared here. I thought the guideline was that 70% approval is generally required for deletion. Also I do not think it is appropriate to declare the result in a category where your own vote might be considered to have tipped the balance as it puts you in the position of judge and jury. I make the result:
- Delete (7) - but this includes you and also the original nominator who said she was only concerned that it might become unwieldy.
- Neutral (1)
- Keep (4)
Without you it is only 60% for deletion, or 59% counting the indeterminate as 50/50 or 54.5% counting it as a keep. With you it is still below 70%. Any comments? CalJW 21:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I try to remain neutral when it comes to closings, I do not consider my feelings for the category, if you look at my voting/closing history, you will find that I have closed several discussions contrary to my vote. As for this one, I read the entire discussion, and it leaned toward deletion, I do not put a lot of weight on one user replying to another user if their comments do not sway the opinion. However, I missed a vote, but I count 11, not 12, which would make it 63% and not 70, so it would be a no consensus. I am not sure where you got the neutral vote, unless you count Angr's comment, inwhich he previously said delete. It was a simple mistake, and I appreciate you pointing it out. This is one reason I leave the discussions such as these up for a bit longer, even after closing. Either way, please understand the point that I remain neutral reguardless of my vote. ∞Who?¿? 21:44, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks. By the way, I've recently used the categories for merger tag for the first time. CalJW 22:05, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Editing userpages Ironbrew
[edit]with Ironbrew
- Please refrain from editing other users userpages w/o good reason. Although you posted a sock puppet notice, they did they same to you. This makes it seem like neither is true. If you wish to leave a comment for someone, please do so on their talk page. Thank you. ∞Who?¿? 20:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
I think that user:IMNOTEMICO is in fact a sockpuppet of Emico, who has been banned from editing some articles here due to his POV and rudeness towards others. He is the one who started the baseless accusations, and since I have proof that he is Emico's sockpuppet, I put the notice on his talk page.--Ironbrew 22:04, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- That's understandable, and I have been trying to go through the histories and talk with admins involved. It was better at the time to just remove both banners and notitfy both users. If you are having problems with another user, its better to ask for help from an admin, and Don't feed the trolls, it will save you some heartache, even if only a little. thanks for responding, and I will try to find out whats going on with the other user. ∞Who?¿? 22:13, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Editing userpages IMNOTEMICO
[edit]with IMNOTEMICO
- Please refrain from editing other users userpages w/o good reason. Although you posted a sock puppet notice, they did they same to you. This makes it seem like neither is true. If you wish to leave a comment for someone, please do so on their talk page. Thank you. ∞Who?¿? 20:33, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks!
[edit]I saw that edit to my usertalk achive, but wasn't sure what to make of it...I'm not sure what he's talking about, but thanks for transplanting it where I might notice it.--MONGO 20:02, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
RfA
[edit]Just to say thanks for supporting my RfA. Please let me know if you see me screw up anytime. --Doc (?) 19:21, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
with Rune Welsh
- Hi, since you are the creator and only editor of this category, you can request it be speedy deleted. Just use {{db}} and fill in the reason. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 18:27, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for the tip. I didn't notice there was speedy deletion for categories as well. -- Rune Welsh ταλκ 19:14, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
with User:Aido2002
- Hi, the reason your image is being reverted is because you are not formatting it correctly. Take a look at Wikipedia:Extended image syntax for some help with how to use images. You may also just change the actual filename listed in the code, and leave the other syntax, that way it will show up the same as the other one with a different picture. ∞Who?¿? 23:03, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Template:Test-b
[edit]with Psy guy
- Hi, I responded to your message on Redwolf24's talk page here. ∞Who?¿? 07:16, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Copied from User talk:Redwolf24
- I think it looks good as well. In the future, you may want to consider proposing template creation on Wikipedia talk:Template messages first and create it as a user subpage, but for this specific one, it would probably have been better to propose it on one of the Test talk pages. They are watched by quite a few users and you would have fairly quick feedback. This way you avoid it being thrown up on WP:TFD and you can get immediate input before you create it in template space. I have created quite a few templates, some of which I should have proposed first :) ∞Who?¿? 07:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your input; I really appreciate it. I tried to read up on template protocal and found a link to Meta. That was uber-boring and fairly useless. I will read the links you gave me on Red's page so that I will know what to do in the future. Thanks again! Psy guy (talk) 13:04, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
yay
[edit]with The JPS Glad you're getting sorted, and are OK. The JPS 23:47, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
my user page
[edit]with Xtra thanks for the revert. It must be school holidays again. Xtra 09:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Smiley
[edit]with Essjay
- You left me a smiley a while back, and it has since been deleted. Would you look at the list of emoticons on Meta and pick a suitable one to replace it? -- Essjay · Talk 21:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Replaced, although not with one as good as the old one. I can't even remember what the old one looked like. I thought of getting one off the net, but finding good free images w/source is a pain sometimes. If I come across a good one, I will email the owner and ask for gnu release. ∞Who?¿? 23:09, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Vandalism
[edit]with Facamus
- "Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. This includes adding content to userpages"
- Even to my own userpage? The only one I've ever edited with nonsense is my own userpage. Any other edit I've made to another page was completely in good faith.Facamus 18:58, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
You call this edit good faith? ∞Who?¿? 19:00, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- That's the only one, which I admit was a mistake. I was just angry because he changed a picture I had uploaded to some random image of a map. I should have gone about it another way... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Facamus (talk • contribs) 19:03, 21 September 2005
In the future, please consider leaving remarks, nicer in nature, on the users talk page. Also consider taking a look at WP:Civil, as you could have been temporarily blocked for personal attacks. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 19:10, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- I edited his page after you sent me the first message. So what was your original complaint about? My userpage? If so, was I wrong in assuming that I can do what I wish with my own page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Facamus (talk • contribs) 15:13, 21 September 2005
Actually, no you did it before. My signature shows UTC time, and the history shows your time zone. So here is the history for that user page: diff link 18:49 21 September 2005, and here is when I left you the message diff link 18:50 21 September 2005, which was 1 minute after you did the edit. As far as your userpage, you can do pretty much anything you want with it, within reason. Also, please consider signing your comments with ~~~~ Thanks again. ∞Who?¿? 19:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well I dont give a fuck what you think you bitch ass motherfucker, fuck you and your bitch ass fake bike you fukin loser. You bitch made fag. FUCK YOU ASSHOLE FUCKING FAG PIECE OF SHIT FUCK YOU!!! ASSHOLE--
Facamus 19:34, 21 September 2005 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.58.28 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 21 September 2005
- Well I dont give a fuck what you think you bitch ass motherfucker, fuck you and your bitch ass fake bike you fukin loser. You bitch made fag. FUCK YOU ASSHOLE FUCKING FAG PIECE OF SHIT FUCK YOU!!! ASSHOLE--
I know, "don't feed trolls"...
[edit]with brenneman But this did make me laugh. - brenneman(t)(c) 04:46, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Cfd umbrella entries
[edit]'with CalJW
- Hi, I have converted a few of your latest entries to "umbrella" entries. Please take a look at Cfd howto, {{Cfdu}}, {{cfru}} and the templates associated talk pages, to see how to use these. This allows users to click on the "relevant entry" link on the category and go directly to its listing. With {{cfru}} you can specify individual names for each cat as well. Thanks. ∞Who?¿? 21:52, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing that. I'll try brace myself to study it. I have to say that the instructions on the categories for deletion page are so unfriendly looking that I've avoided them - and I think many people do. The same applies to articles for deletion, or did last time I looked. These important tasks are more likely to be done if they are kept very simple. CalJW 21:58, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- You should have seen them before I rewrote them. I admit it does take a bit to understand them, but I tried to make them as clear as possible, and as short as possible. I used more detail on the individual template talk pages, which I feel is easier to understand, see Template talk:Cfru and see if it's a bit more clear. I welcome any improvements or suggestions. ∞Who?¿? 22:21, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi again. I seen some more of you {{cfr}} entries, and wanted to go ahead and show you how to use all of templates since you mentioned the instructions were hard to read. When you added cfr to the cats you put in text below the nom what the new name was, this will mess with a bot if used.
- For {{cfr}} do this: {{cfr|proposed name}} this will show the new name in the banner.
- For {{cfru}} (umbrella renames) do this: {{cfru|proposed name|section name used on CFD}}.
- For {{cfdu}} (umbrella deletions) do this: {{cfru|section name used on CFD}}.
- For {{cfm}} (merge) do this: {{cfm|proposed merge category}}.
Please let me know if you still have problems understanding this. Thanks again. ∞Who?¿? 20:52, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Category for deletion no consensus?
[edit]with ≈ jossi ≈ Category_talk:Founders_of_religions_or_sects
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_August_20#Category:Founders_of_religions_or_sects
Tally was two delete, one keep, one propose to change to a different title (no vote). I understood that 75% is considered consensus... ≈ jossi ≈ 22:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi, yea actually I count the nomination as a vote as well. So we have 5 votes total; 3 del, 1 keep, 1 changed to rename. So that's 3/5 deletion, which is only 60%. I go off the basis of 70% for numbers/voting sakes, but read the discussion as well. You are welcome to resubmit the Cfd, maybe the outcome will be different, I personally thought it should have been deleted, per my vote, but try to remain impartial for closing. ∞Who?¿? 23:13, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- I see... I will resubmit the CfD. Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ 23:19, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Archive bot
[edit]Allow me to borrow Acetic Acid's archive bot.
WARNING! This page is 43KB long! Time to archive! ArchiveBot
THIEF! Acetic'Acid 00:54, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
"Sir, did you see what happened?".. "Yea I did, I was just sittin there and here he come, wearin nuttin but a smile.." ∞Who?¿? 03:25, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Life without the internet or tv
[edit]Yes, it looks very beautiful, but what is there to do? Explode? Redwolf24 (talk) 05:50, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Category for deletion no consensus?
[edit]Category_talk:Founders_of_religions_or_sects
Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_August_20#Category:Founders_of_religions_or_sects
Tally was two delete, one keep, one propose to change to a different title (no vote). I understood that 75% is considered consensus... ≈ jossi ≈ 22:12, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
Hi, yea actually I count the nomination as a vote as well. So we have 5 votes total; 3 del, 1 keep, 1 changed to rename. So that's 3/5 deletion, which is only 60%. I go off the basis of 70% for numbers/voting sakes, but read the discussion as well. You are welcome to resubmit the Cfd, maybe the outcome will be different, I personally thought it should have been deleted, per my vote, but try to remain impartial for closing. ∞Who?¿? 23:13, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
- I see... I will resubmit the CfD. Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ 23:19, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
My RfA
[edit]Thanks for supporting my RfA, and thanks for the nice things you said. I'll work hard to try to live up to the confidence you're showing in me. Nandesuka 01:07, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
Category:Surf
[edit]Hi. Thanks for putting on the CfD notice, I should have done that as the nominator. I'm still getting the hang of the CfD process. Andrewa 06:43, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Archiving CfD
[edit]Hi there. I think you're archiving (and possibly closing) CfDs a day early. You just archived the 5th: but if I had nominated a cat at 23:00 on the 5th, it would need until 23:00 on the 12th before being closed, and ought to remain visible on the main CfD page until then. Or have I miscounted something? -Splash 00:47, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- Hmm, damn, I had another message with a diagram I was gonna demonstrate how I got my 7 days, but it showed me that the first day would be skipped, given yer example of 23:00. I have been doing it this way for awhile too :) Oh wait, I let Kbdank71 archive the page, I just added the new day. Thanks for pointing it out, I will re-add the day to CFd. ∞Who?¿? 00:59, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- No problem! And no reason to refrain from closing all of that day's CfDs; once we're as many hours through the day as it needs, they can be polished off. I just speedy-closed the one about rugby league from the 10th, and am wondering how long it will be before I get flamed for it. -Splash 01:27, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- The fact that no-one has squealed about a controversial early closure might mean we should think about shortening the process a little; AfD does fine with 5 days. I don't really like having 'unfinished' business around longer than we must. Unless the lack of squeals is because there hasn't been a controversial one closed early. -Splash 01:44, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- For the record, I let things stay open for seven days. Not exactly to the hour, perhaps, but as was pointed out, nobody has said anything yet. If I wasn't so busy with the 6th today, I'd have done the 7th also. I just make sure that there are seven transcluded days on CfD.
- As for dropping it to five days, I like the idea but I don't know that it would work. It works for AfD because there is a huge backlog, and more people frequent there. If we get five votes on any one category it's a lot, and currently there aren't that many cats listed. --Kbdank71 20:47, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
I have a question
[edit]Why in the world aren't you an admin yet? Please let me know when in October your next nomination comes up, so I can vote on it. Thanks, Nandesuka 12:34, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Pearle update
[edit]An update has been posted to User:Pearle/pearle.pl, including some bug fixes which may be helpful for Whobot. Hope you are doing well in the aftermath of the hurricane. -- Beland 02:49, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
That sekrit thing
[edit]Check that sekrit page for that sekrit thing which no one should know about. and sekritly email me if you have any suggestions.
OMG SEKRIT! Redwolf24 (talk) 01:19, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Cfd and stuff
[edit]with Splash Hey, sorry, yes I did see your message about congrat; I just forgot to reply (have had quite a few to do!). Thanks - I got an amazing amount of support. Oh, don't worry about voting or not. I've spent today chipping at some of the backlogs. They don't tell you how big they are and how little impact you'll make in 5 hours of deletion until after they give you a mop.
Well, Cat titles has stalled rather, just as we were doing well. Radiant is away, I deliberately went a little quiet during my RfA, you're away-ish and so it's sort of standing still. However, we were/are going to propose that man-made features be "...in Foo" rather than "...of Foo". So those debates are certainly in line with that. However, we didn't actually get as far as making that a firm thing before we stalled so CfD would still overrule that. Perhaps I'll take a look at some CfDs tomorrow; having closed about 50 VfDs and 50 copyvios, my delete button is starting to wear out! -Splash 01:04, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
user:Larzan
[edit]with Rick Block
- Hi - Do you know what's up with user:Larzan? I notice you added the permablocked message on the user page. S/he's claiming innocence (see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#HELP.2C__User:_Larzan). Just curious if you know the story. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:49, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
No, sorry, don't know any particuar history on that user. I was going through the block logs and tagging userpages that had some background info to look up. Mostly to inform the user and/or other users of the situation. I remember trying to find the particulars of that case, ie.. "Flying Spaghetti sockpuppet", but could not, so I didnt tag any more users blocked for that reason, at least I dont believe I did. Sorry I couldn't be of anymore help. ∞Who?¿? 19:37, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
FWDixon/Bob Finnan's Link Spamming
[edit]Can you spare some time to help in resolving complaints about User FWDixon’s/Bob Finnan’s link spamming and copyright violations? I happy to discuss these things and do not want to make changes any more without a concensus.
Finnan’s link spamming began in June 2005 as annonymous users 4.236.54.18 and 4.236.54.116. If you check the contributions under the second IP you will see that on 19 June he added 1- 3 links to his Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew, Dana Girls, Great Marvel, and Bowery Boys web sites on countless articles. As user FWDixon he went on to add links to his site from all 59 Hardy Boys titles and the following pages too:
-the Grosset & Dunlap page
-the Chet Morton page
-the Aunt Gertrude page
-the Franklin W. Dixon page
-the Clues Brothers page
-the Hardy Boys Casefiles page
-the Hardy Boys Digests page
-the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew Supermystery page
-the Hardy Boys Undercover Brothers page
-the Tom Swift page
-the Tom Swift Jr. page
-the Tom Swift III page
-the Tom Swift IV page
-the Ultra Thriller page
-the Tommy Kirk page
-the Parker Stevenson page
-the Shaun Cassidy page
-the Edward Stratemeyer page
-the Stratemeyer Syndicate page
-the Harriet Stratemeyer Adams page
-the Mildred Benson page
-the Tom Quest page
-the Dead End Kids page
-the Little Tough Guys page
-the X Bar X Boys page
-the Chip Hilton page
-the Radio Boys page
-the Rover Boys page
-the Ted Scott Flying Stories page
In many cases he put links to 2 of his web pages on the same article. This is obviously link spamming. A consensus has been reached that he spammed the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew pages and all but one of his links on those article pages have been removed. Most of the others still remain. On many pages he has more than one link to different pages of his web site. For example:
The Stratemeyer Syndicate page (The Unofficial Hardy Boys Home Page FAQ and The Bayport times)
The Ultra Thriller page (The Unofficial Hardy Boys Home Page and The Unofficial Tom Swift Home Page)
The Mildred Benson page (The Unofficial Nancy Drew Home Page and The Dana Girls Page)
The Dana Girls Page (The Unofficial Nancy Drew Home Page and The Dana Girls Home Page)
The Supermystery page (The Unofficial Hardy Boys Home Page and The Unofficial Nancy Drew Home Page)
Most if not all of his web pages are commercial sites where he is trying to sell books as an Amazon affiliate. The link that he has from the Clues Brothers, Undercover Brothers, Hardy Boys Digests, Casefiles, and Ultra Thrillers articles http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com/hbpb.htm has a total of 360 Amazon buy links on the page alone. Worse some of his links are to pages with just book lists with Amazon Buy links on each title and no info that adds to the Wiki article. In other cases his links lead to pages with no info at all on the article topic. Mildred Benson is an example of this.
If you review this you will see that it is very obvious that this is deliberate link spamming for commercial gain. Can we get a full review of this and correct it? This is an abuse of Wiki. After this is corrected I would like to discuss Finnan's copyright violations. Wiki guidelines say external sources of info should be acknowledged. Thank you. Solo1 20:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- This issue has been already resolved recently to the satisfaction of the community. See [1] --PhilipO 05:47, September 4, 2005 (UTC)
Yes I mentioned this above, but the consensus only delt with the main article pages for the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew and individual book titles that were listed on those pages. I would like to see a more general review that would address:
- Wiki pages having more than one link to this individual's web pages - links that he has to web pages with no info at all on the article topic - links to his web pages which are clearly commercial. These should be described accordingly if they are to remain
We have a clear case of link spamming for commercial purposes here. It wouldn't be much trouble to review the examples given above and decide what links should stay, which should be removed, and whether the link descriptions for those that remain should read "commercial site". Solo1 22:30, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ironically, it seems many of the pages in question are protected due to repeated, unilateral link removal and Wiki abuse (to quote the above phrase) by an anonymous user. A consensus had been reached at Finnan's talk page and I find it strange that a further discussion has now been moved here.Why wasn't this taken up with the original group that was discussing the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew? That said, a more general appplication of the decision should result in the links on each page listed above reduced to one, (or none at all if that is more appropriate) - I have no issue with that and think it is the correct thing to do. --PhilipO 05:47, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks Phillip. I'm more than happy to have the original group take up this review. User:Who is familar with some similar complaints about links from the Tom Swift Wiki pages and I thought it might be helpful to have someone else look at the overall problem, but no offense was meant to anyone else. Solo1 18:49, 5 September 2005 (UTC)