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Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/HMS Royal Oak (08)[edit]

Nate, I've just started scheduling TFAs (and loving it). I prefer to schedule as many with anniversaries as I can; I think that's one way to demystify the process. Before the end of the year, I'm going to go on a massive hunt for date-relevant articles ... but for the moment, all I've got for Nov 17 is this one. It's a really interesting article, and it would be great to get another British ship into November. Do you know if anyone has worked on this since the failed TFAR two years ago? - Dank (push to talk) 03:54, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I know Jason did a fair bit of work on the description section, but I think that's about it. The section on WWI needs quite a bit of work - I'm in the middle of bringing SMS Kaiser Friedrich III up to snuff, but after that I can shift gears and at least get to the WWI bits. I know Jason is working on the Africa de-stub-athon, so I don't know that he'll really want to take the time to do much more on Royal Oak.
@BillC: is still active, and will probably be interested in getting us over the finish line too. Parsecboy (talk) 11:57, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Great. I've got some TFA scheduling to do today and the TFA bots are cranky; I have to at least put an article title up in each TFA slot. I'll use Royal Oak for the 17th, but I'm not pressuring you to get it done, this is just my best wild guess at the moment for what will wind up there so that I can move on and schedule other days. If it looks like Royal Oak won't make it, please let me know. - Dank (push to talk) 13:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Sounds good - I have another three pages or so to translate for Kaiser Friedrich III. Hopefully that'll be finished by early next week, and then I can get to work on Royal Oak. Parsecboy (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Can I help? Can you email me a copy of the pages, or are they online? - Dank (push to talk) 18:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
For which one - Kaiser Friedrich or Royal Oak? Parsecboy (talk) 18:35, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Kaiser. - Dank (push to talk) 18:37, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
You've got mail! Parsecboy (talk) 18:53, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I had time to do about half of it, I hope this helps. I'm giving a somewhat literal translation to make it easier to catch my numerous mistakes:

The squadron's ships were Kaiser Friedrich III (flagship), Kaiser Wilhelm der Große, Weisenburg, Wörth (flagship of the 2. Admiral until December), Braunschweig (flagship of the 2. Admiral starting in December), and Elsaß (attached to the formation beginning in May 1905). Nothing special happened during the autumn maneuvers, apart from a wintertime exercise by the combined fleet in the eastern part of the Baltic. There is also nothing special to report from the first quarter of 1905. After gaining Elsaß and the modernized warship Brandenburg and losing Kaiser Wilhelm der Große (to I Squadron), II Squadron remained at its previous strength of six ships. From 12 July to 9 August the fleet's usual grand summer tour took place, which Kaiser Friedrich III participated in during 20-24 July at Göteburg (Gothenburg, at that time), and at Stockholm during 2-7 August. The autumn maneuvers of the active battlefleet then followed. Yet another (if only slight) alteration in the organisation of the fleet affected Kaiser Friedrich III once again: she lost her position as squadron flagship to the new warship Preußen, moved to I Squadron, and took over the position of flagship of the 2. Admiral. This position had been re-created on 1 October and was staffed by KzS und Kommodore Pohl; sein Asto wurde KL Krah (Waldemar). The rest of the year brought I Squadron, with its flagship Wittelsbach, an even larger exercise in the Baltic. In 1906, the usual routine resumed. In the summer there was a larger tour in Norwegian waters. Kaiser Friedrich III was anchored 20-26 July at Molde and from 27 July to 2 August at Bergen. The autumn maneuvers of the active battlefleet were comparatively short, 7-15 September. In a previous fleet engagement, the artillery staff (under artillery officer KL Karl Heine) had been able to achieve for a second time the Kaiser-Schießpreis (Kaiser's shooting prize).

The subsequent autumn change in duties brought a new assignment to [the ship]. In a reshuffling of the order of the fleet, the warship lost its identity as flagship of the 2. Admiral of I Squadron. Since the new chief of fleet, Admiral Prince Heinrich von Preußen, was raising his flag on the new warship Deutschland, this freed up the previous fleet flagship, Kaiser Wilhelm II. After that, the 2. Admiral (???) Rollman. Kaiser Friedrich III remained however in I Squadron. The rest of the year proceeded uneventfully, apart from a December sortie into the North Sea. The same was true for the first half of 1907. The spring exercises (8 May - 7 June) and the summer exercises (12 July - 10 August) in the North and Baltic seas went without incident for the warship, as did the big autumn maneuvers (26 August - 14 September). Immediately afterwards, Kaiser Friedrich III entered the K. W. Kiel [Kiel shipyard, I think] and was readied for decommissioning. On 30 September 1907 came the end of a Front career of almost 10 years. The sister ship Kaiser Barbarossa took her place.

The year 1908 and the beginning of 1909 saw extensive modernizations to warships, as has already been reported. - Dank (push to talk) 21:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Nate, now that I'm looking at the schedule through the end of November I realize we have too many MilHist and too many ship articles, so I'm pushing this one off till its Jan 15 anniversary. Take your time. - Dank (push to talk) 20:27, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good - thanks for the translating work above, by the way. I see you have SMS Lützow scheduled for the 29th - I might push off Royal Oak and go through HRS for that first. Parsecboy (talk) 22:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks much, I was going to ask how the article was holding up. - Dank (push to talk) 22:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm sure it's fine, it was just written before I had access to HRS, so I'm sure there are some details that could be added. Granted, the ship was in service for only a couple of months, so there likely isn't all that much. There's only about a page to translate, so there won't be much. Parsecboy (talk) 22:36, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 8, 2016[edit]

I'm using the phrase "one of the most consequential battles of the war" to describe the Battle of Jutland. My understanding is that, since Germany couldn't send their fleet out, they had permanent supply problems, and the only way to compete was by sinking merchant and warships with U-Boats, with significant consequences. Would you say that Battle of Jutland supports the "consequential" description, or am I pushing it too far? - Dank (push to talk) 01:18, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

I think you could make a case that it was pretty consequential - I actually wrote a paper on Jutland in a counterfactual history class I took in grad school to see what might have happened if the results had favored the Germans in a bit more lopsided way. The line in our article that most directly supports the argument is this one: "In this view, the most important consequence of Jutland was the decision of the Germans to engage in unrestricted submarine warfare." Parsecboy (talk) 12:56, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Wait ... I'm being dumb (again). All I need is something that indicates the significance, and no one will object to calling it "the largest naval battle of the war". Done. - Dank (push to talk) 13:07, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Operation Paravane ACR[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure if you conducted an in-depth review of this article from your comments, but if you feel comfortable doing so - and if I've addressed your comments! - could you please leave a support at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Operation Paravane? I'm hoping to wrap it up before going on holiday. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 09:33, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. Parsecboy (talk) 12:50, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of SMS Salamander[edit]

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Is it done?[edit]

Are the improvements as suggested on Talk:SMS_Drache/GA1 done? You've not signed for a confirmation, please do it. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 00:10, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Yup, all done, thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 00:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of SMS Salamander[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Drache[edit]

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DYK for SMS Custoza[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 10 November 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article SMS Custoza, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that SMS Custoza was the first Austro-Hungarian major warship to have an iron hull? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SMS Custoza. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, SMS Custoza), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Citations[edit]

Damn, didn't notice that! Thanks for fixing. Haploidavey (talk) 10:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Sure - thanks for removing that redundant line. Parsecboy (talk) 13:32, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
And just something I meant to say earlier - you write very well indeed. Haploidavey (talk) 13:35, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! It's certainly a skill that's developed over time. One of my older FAs (SMS Lützow, written back in 2009) is scheduled for the main page at the end of the month, and I've had to go back through it quite a bit, and it probably needs more work. Parsecboy (talk) 13:53, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

USS Constellation[edit]

Why is it that cancelled or prototype planes get articles but cancelled ships don't? Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 15:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC) Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 15:41, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Those are apples and oranges - the equivalent would be a cancelled plane type and a cancelled ship class, and there is an article for the Lexington-class battlecruisers. But there's no point to creating permanent stubs that basically duplicate content from the class article. There are exceptions to this rule of thumb (Japanese battleship Tosa and German aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin come to mind) when the ships had something notable happen to them, but for most unfinished ships, it's not the case. Parsecboy (talk) 15:52, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins[edit]

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

Hi Parsecboy.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

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DYK for SMS Novara (1913)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Panther (1885)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Leopard[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Panther (1885)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Leopard[edit]

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Fargo class cruiser[edit]

Hey I found a whole bunch of ships in the class that were never built, do you think the nonbuilt ones should be AFD'ed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iazyges (talkcontribs)

No need to AfD them, just redirect them. If anyone objects, which is unlikely, then you can do an AfD. Parsecboy (talk) 10:40, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of USS Mississippi (BB-41)[edit]

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TFA[edit]

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Precious again, your SMS Lützow!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:41, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda! Parsecboy (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of USS Mississippi (BB-41)[edit]

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I saw you haven't worked on this so in an effort to help I went through the issues that were marked and fixed them. I hope I haven't over stepped anything. The only thing that I changed from the GA list was that I added "State of" to Mississippi, this matches a lot of the other battleships and I felt it helped with continuity. I also added a couple of refs to clarify the turret explosions.Pennsy22 (talk) 07:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, much appreciated, especially the material from those newspaper articles - I haven't had time over the past day or so to take care of the review. Parsecboy (talk) 16:40, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

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A-class with diamonds[edit]

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IP's changes to the Oklahoma article[edit]

Checkout the changes to the USS Oklahoma (BB-37) that an IP's been making. Most are unobjectionable and fairly trivial, but the main thing is that he's changed all the dates from DMY to MDY. I don't want to roll them all back, but I have no desire to manually change them back. What do you think the best thing to do is?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Took me a bit to find the time to go fix it, but I've gone through and reverted the date changes - think I got them all, but no guarantee. Parsecboy (talk) 17:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Hope that you've watchlisted the page in case he reverts you. But many thanks; you're a better man than I, Gunga Din!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:17, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016[edit]

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Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your recent contribution at Military history of the Soviet Union. I see from your userpage you're active in the topic of military history. Did you see my report at the military history project talk page? Did I write that okay? I also started a discussion at the talk page of that particular article. Does that look alright so far? Any advice about the behavioral patterns from the edits documented in my report about what steps to take next ? Obviously I don't want to edit-war, and that is why I tried to notify more experienced users at WT:MILHIST, but was that the right move here? Sagecandor (talk) 03:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I'm actually a coordinator at the MILHIST project (and an administrator). I saw your report last night, but haven't have time to look at it in depth. Certainly, biased editing is a problem on Wikipedia. At this point, it's probably best to let the discussions at MILHIST and the article talk page run their course - the more eyes you have on the situation, the better. Parsecboy (talk) 15:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay that sounds like a good plan, thank you ! Sagecandor (talk) 17:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

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Thanks GAB, I hope you're having a nice time over the holidays too! Parsecboy (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy holidays![edit]

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Hope you and your family are enjoying the holiday season. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:50, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Ed, we're having a great time - I hope you are too! Parsecboy (talk) 17:27, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Open the range[edit]

Hi Parsecboy,

in the article Battle of Jutland there is this sentence to be read: Beatty's battlecruisers did not score any hits on the Germans in this phase until 17:45, but they had rapidly received five more before he opened the range.

What does it mean open the range? Was it not meant: ...before he opened fire?

Thank you in anticipation.

--Andreas P 15 (talk) 12:50, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

That refers to when Beatty turned his ships away slightly to increase the distance between his ships and the Germans (thus increasing or opening up the range between the two groups). The article could probably use a once-over for phrases like that that aren't immediately obvious for what they mean, or are overly jargon-y. Parsecboy (talk) 17:26, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. Now it seems obvious :)
--Andreas P 15 (talk) 19:14, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry![edit]

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC) Lights ablaze.JPG

Thanks Bzuk, I hope you're having a nice time at the holidays too! Parsecboy (talk) 13:29, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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Raids of July 24th 1941[edit]

Hi Parsecboy hope all ok. A funny thing re the Brest raids on the 24th of July 1941. They appear to have been far more complex than we have documented. Sharnhorst moved just before the operation, to La Pallice. She was attacked by Halifaxes and medium types after a swift reorganisation of the operation. Gneiseau was still at Brest and was attacked by the 3 B-17s as well as other types. The operation was complex and deserves an article actually. Here is the story [[1]] Irondome (talk) 23:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, all looks fine to me - wouldn't be the first time Garzke & Dulin flubbed a minor detail. Hope you're enjoying the new year. Parsecboy (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Military Historian of the Year[edit]

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Happy New Year, Parsecboy![edit]

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Thanks Donner, the same to you! Parsecboy (talk) 15:13, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

2016 Year in Review[edit]

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Thanks Tom! Parsecboy (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Quarterly Milhist Reviewing Award: Oct to Dec 16[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXX, February 2017[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Italian cruiser Trento[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Italian cruiser Trento[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Italian cruiser Trento[edit]

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Trento casualties[edit]

Hello, I do have casualty figures for the sinking of Trento. The ship carried a complement of 51 officers and 1,100 NCOs and men when she was sunk; 602 men were rescued (22 officers, almost all wounded; 100 NCOs, 31 of whom wounded; 480 ratings, 149 of whom wounded) and 549 went down with the ship, including her commanding officer, Captain Stanislao Esposito. Source: "La Marina italiana nella seconda guerra mondiale - Volume II: La guerra nel Mediterraneo - Le azioni navali - Tomo 2°: dall'1 aprile 1941 all'8 settembre 1943", by Giuseppe Fioravanzo, Ufficio Storico della Marina Militare, page 312. 21 of the 602 survivors later died of their wounds.--Olonia (talk) 18:09, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the details - any idea why her crew was so much larger than the peacetime crew?
If you have similar details for Trieste, I'd be happy to have them. Parsecboy (talk) 04:11, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Do not know the reason, I just noticed that pretty much every kind of Italian warship - cruisers, destroyers, torpedo boat -, whenever I can find numbers about the casualties and survivors in their sinking, seemed to carry a significantly larger complement than the one specified in their 'characteristics'. Heavy cruiser with a supposed crew of 700-800 actually carried 1,000-1,100 men, light cruisers with a theorical crew of 500 actually had 600-700 men aboard, destroyers with a theorical crew of 180-200 actually carried 220-250 men, and so on.
Trieste: I do have figures, but the source is not official. This page, that mentions the book "La Maddalena 1943, la piazzaforte di latta" by S. Sanna, mentions that according to earlier despatches the casualties were 2 officers killed and 2 missing, 6 NCOs wounded and 6 missing, 67 ratings killed or missing and 67 wounded. The same (only difference the number of wounded ratings, 69 instead of 67) in this other page. This memorial in La Spezia lists the names of 80 men killed on Trieste.--Olonia (talk) 09:29, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Hmm, I don't think any of those would qualify as reliable sources. If we had more details about the La Maddalena 1943 book, like a specific page number, we could obviously use that. Parsecboy (talk) 20:08, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
I found another web page describing the sinking of Trieste, among its sources the La Maddalena 1943 book is given, with reference to page 11. There is stated that the final toll was 66 men killed or missing (3 officers, 8 NCOs and 55 ratings) and 66 wounded (8 NCOs and 58 ratings).--Olonia (talk) 20:31, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Much appreciated - I've added it to the article. Parsecboy (talk) 21:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Italian cruiser Trieste[edit]

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ARA General Belgrano[edit]

Any particular reason why you chose to move it again? There are in fact two ships of the same name and the pennant number is a common discriminator. WCMemail 18:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, there are several. It's obviously the primary topic for the ship name (see for instance 8,400 page views vs. 338 views in the last month), which means it should occupy the un-disambiguated spot. Also, the un-disambiguated location redirected to the article, so functionally, it's identical. A dab page is not required when there are only two items. Lastly, the original move should have been discussed in the first place. Parsecboy (talk) 19:36, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Italian cruiser Trieste[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Italian cruiser Trieste[edit]

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Altmark incident[edit]

Hi Parsecboy. I've written a proposed expansion for the article Altmark incident. It is to be seen in my sandbox. Can you read it end correct my grammatical errors? My English is not the best unfortunately. Some citations will be added and a few minor changes will be also made tomorrow. Please write your opinion about the article. Thanks. --Andreas (talk) 20:08, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Trento-class cruiser[edit]

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Reply[edit]

1. I do believe I've demonstrated quite an ability to work with other editors, and you can see that if you bother to check the drafts on the same talk page you posted. I want to do collaboration, but most when they find out about me just pull out the "banned card" and suddenly all my contributions for which I worked hours to find the sources and write them are "disruptive".

2. I've been carefully following Wiki policies in my editing: NPOV, reliable sources, all that. Wiki policies also state that contributions from banned users, when constructive, do not need to be removed. You can do it, but you don't have to. So...What exactly is the problem? 86.123.126.168 (talk) 16:31, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

You don't get it, do you? Let me be clear: you are not allowed to edit Wikipedia. At all. Under any circimstances. It doesn't matter at all whether you are being constructive or not. You were banned by the community. The fact that you are continuing to edit while you have been banned is prima facie evidence that you cannot abide by Wikipedia policies. As Sturmvogel, Ed, and I tried to tell you some time ago, if you want the ban to be lifted, you need to wait 6 months without editing at all, and then ask for your ban to be reconsidered. The clock can't start while you are still evading the ban, and frankly, the fact that you have been evading your ban all this time does not help your chances of being un-banned.
Here's the long and the short of it. At some point, I or another admin will get tired of watching you evade the ban, and we'll just lock the articles you edit to prevent you from touching them. The choice is ultimately up to you. Parsecboy (talk) 18:57, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
I still don't get some things. I respect such policies like NPOV and reliable sources, why me breaking this one policy trumps respecting all the others? If I recall correctly, it said pretty clear that positive edits by banned users can be allowed to stay, I really do not understand the sense of urgency you have to revert all I do, it's not vandalism, it's not malicious, it's not hurting anyone. The ban is said to be enforced to protect Wikipedia, and not meant for punishment, yet that is exactly what is being done to me, because I'm not doing any harm yet I'm still banned. Finally, tell me honestly, does it have a point at this point to stop editing? I first considered it, until some Mister Silver Barnstar popped out of nowhere and labelled my account as a sock of some user called Iaaasi, or something like that, whom I swear to God I am not. So would it even have a point due to this? My word against Mister Silver Barnstar, can you understand the impossibility of the position I am in? If that label calling me a sock of that user would be gone, I swear I would stop editing, I would do anything to be legally allowed to come back. But as long as that label is there, I think there is no hope for me... 86.123.126.168 (talk) 19:14, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Trento-class cruiser[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Zara-class cruiser[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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I just wanted to thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Ships#Proposal to rename article ARA Suboficial Castillo (A-6) to USS Takelma (ATF-113). I appreciate your input. KNHaw (talk) 17:57, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Trento-class cruiser[edit]

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SMS Nassau for TFA[edit]

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Thanks, Chris - everything looks good to me. I'll have a look at the article in the next day or two to make sure not too much dust has gathered on it. Parsecboy (talk) 12:44, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of USS Idaho (BB-42)[edit]

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March Madness 2017[edit]

G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:

  • tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
  • updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
  • creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of HMS Benbow (1913)[edit]

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ARA General Belgrano[edit]

I've made a move request to put ARA Belgrano at ARA Belgrano (C-4). You reversed the move on the basis of no discussion but having finally got round to looking there was a discussion in October 2016 and as you were the only person to object (some time later) it seemed to be uncontroversial. WCMemail 14:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

PS not sure what I did but I must have accidentally hit the wrong button on my tablet whilst editing and initiated the move myself. WCMemail 14:02, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
I strongly suggest you reverse the move. If the undisambiguated name redirects to the article, then there is no point in adding disambiguation. There are only two ships with that name, and this one is obviously the primary topic. Adding hull numbers solely for consistency is not supported by WP:NC-SHIPS. Parsecboy (talk) 14:05, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Someone already did, it was unintentional. WCMemail 15:58, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Zara-class cruiser[edit]

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/SMS Kaiser Friedrich III/archive1[edit]

Hey there, did you see my comments here? :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 09:13, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Nope, but thanks for the reminder! Parsecboy (talk) 17:42, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

USS Hawaii[edit]

Hey, Ed and I were talking about trying to whip the article into shape for the March Madness contest and then send it forward to FAC as a co-nom. I don't think that very much work needs to be done so I'm hoping that you'll have time to help with the polishing. BTW, we'll probably need to dump the Scarpaci material as SPS, even though he's done a updated version with a new title.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:33, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I can probably lend a hand. And you're right, Scarpaci will probably have to go. Parsecboy (talk) 01:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
<Montgomery Burns voice>Excellent!</voice> Ed's already started, but I'll let the two of you guys work your magic before I jump in. Unless either of y'all want me to handle anything in particular. I'm cool, either way.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Feth-i Bülend[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Lussin[edit]

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Avnillah, Avnillâh or Avni Illah?[edit]

Hi. Thanks for creating an article on this Ottoman warship, a very interesting ship. One thing I'm thinking about in this regards is, is the ship's name spelled Avnillah or ‎Avnillâh? A look at Google Books seem to indicate that Turkish language sources use ‎Avnillâh. What do you think? Manxruler (talk) 10:30, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Yet other sources use Avni Illah. Manxruler (talk) 10:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
There are tons of different transliterations for the names of these ships - the article I just wrote, Mukaddeme-i Hayir has variants that include "Mukaddeme-i Haϊr", "Mukhadem "Khair", "Mukaddami Khair", and "Mukaddeme-i Khayir". I just used the spelling in Langensiepen's & Güleryüz's book, since it's the primary source for the article. Parsecboy (talk) 10:58, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Sounds sensible. I suppose that the Ottomans would have used their own alphabet when writing the ship's name, making even the name used in modern Turkish sources (‎Avnillâh) a transliteration. I think the thing to do then, is to create redirects for the other possible transliterations of the name. Maybe I'll have time later today. Manxruler (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Good idea - I can take care of that shortly. The other articles will need the same treatment, though most of the articles haven't been created yet, let alone redirects for them. Parsecboy (talk) 13:39, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Great to hear. Looking forward to reading more articles on Ottoman warships. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 14:16, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks - the current project is to cover all of the ironclads, so hopefully over the next month or so I'll get them all started, at least. Parsecboy (talk) 14:20, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Thumbs up Manxruler (talk) 14:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Do any of the sources at your disposal say anything about why the Khedivate of Egypt transferred several ships to the Ottoman Navy in the late 1860s? Manxruler (talk) 23:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Ah, I hadn't thought to look for that - Langensiepen & Güleryüz state "Egypt's ambitions for independence continued to trouble the Sublime Porte in the 1860s. The new Vali, Ismail Paşa, was presented with a powerful bargaining chip in the form of the Suez Canal, but made a major strategic mistake in omitting to invite the Sultan to the opening ceremony. The Sultan was stirred to exert his authority and a Ferman of 5 June 1867 insisted that Egypt hand over the ironclads building in France and Austria and reduce its army to 30,000. Negotiations dragged on, and it was not until 29 August 1869 that the warships were formally handed over to the Ottoman navy." Parsecboy (talk) 00:09, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Very interesting, I did suspect some sort of power struggle. I think something explaining this should be added to the articles. Manxruler (talk) 11:23, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree, though I haven't come up with anything concise enough to put in as of yet. Any ideas? Parsecboy (talk) 12:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I'll give it a think and see if I can come up with anything. Manxruler (talk) 13:44, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks - I don't have the book on hand at the moment, but I can look up the page number tonight or tomorrow. Parsecboy (talk) 14:52, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Why not expand the Ottoman ironclad Asar-i Şevket article, for example, with this piece of information on the Ottoman-Egyptian power struggle prior to the latter's handing over of the ships? Sorry for intruding like this, but I would've done it myself if I knew how to cite this appropriately (page number, etc). Cheers. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 23:43, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

SMS Kaiser (1911) for TFA[edit]

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Thank you for another emperor! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Gerda! Parsecboy (talk) 09:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of USS Idaho (BB-42)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of HMS Benbow (1913)[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXI, March 2017[edit]

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Lion-class battlecruiser FAC[edit]

I've responded to your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lion-class battlecruiser/archive1--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:38, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder - will take a look. Parsecboy (talk) 20:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Recent reverting of edits - ship visit to Russia[edit]

If original documentary sources are not acceptable then many of the Wikipedia articles are forced to be sourced by acceptable sources that can contain erroneous information, uninformed opinions, etc. I was under the impression that the Wikipedia effort was one that wished to distill true fact by soliciting a myriad of inputs. Apparently I was mistaken.Федоров (talk) 23:20, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Of course Wikipedia only accepts reliable sources, and there are rather robust methods to evaluate sources at least so far as reviewed articles are concerned. What we cannot accept is original research.
In general, if there is something notable about a topic, it will have been published in reliable, secondary sources. Parsecboy (talk) 23:36, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
I assumed that citing an official document from the U.S. Navy Historical Center archives in Washington, D.C. would have been a reliable source. Is this not good enough?Федоров (talk) 19:23, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Again, primary sources should generally be avoided. And you did not cite anything from the USNHC, you cited "information from extended Brumby family and Russia's Central Navy Museum, St. Petersburg, Russia". Parsecboy (talk) 19:36, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Avnillah[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Mukaddeme-i Hayir[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Muin-i Zafer[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Hifz-ur Rahman[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Lüft-ü Celil[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Asar-i Şevket[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Necm-i Şevket[edit]

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German aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin - fluffed edit: references[edit]

Mmm, yes, cheers for reverting, I need to try again! But - can you give me some detail on your point about the references? (It didn't look to me as if I was putting anything at risk and I'm still unclear.) SquisherDa (talk) 05:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

The problem was, the citation to Groener also covers the line about the Soviets refloating the ship in March 1946. Parsecboy (talk) 15:35, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll have that in mind when I revisit. SquisherDa (talk) 17:46, 16 March 2017 (UTC)


I don't have the reference sources available to me - nor of course your general grasp of context to help with gaps. Can you clarify the ship's later history for me?
The first and simplest point is about the Soviet records. The article (current version) says "The first ship to be sunk, Lützow, was sunk off Swinemunde on 22 July 1947. On 14 August Graf Zeppelin was towed into the harbor" . . that means the same harbor, right? - Swinemunde?
SquisherDa (talk) 20:29, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that would be correct. Parsecboy (talk) 01:06, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. See Talk - fate.
Query with a bit more substance to it . . The ship was scheduled as Category C, to be destroyed or sunk in deep water by 15 August 1946. Our existing text says "Instead, the Soviets decided to salvage the damaged ship and it was refloated in March 1946." That instead looks wrong to me. They refloated the wreck, towed it to deep water, and sank it as a weapons-research target. So, ultimately though rather late, they complied with the scheduling. Is there any evidence that they ever intended to salvage the ship instead? (which of course would have been a breach).
SquisherDa (talk) 14:11, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
I believe there was some consideration to finishing the ship for testing purposes - the Soviets were thinking of using it as a testbed for the development of their own carriers. I think the Kuzin & Litinksii article discusses it - I'll have to look later. Parsecboy (talk) 14:46, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
That sounds pretty interesting. The key for me is whether the Soviets really considered bringing the wreck back to life or whether it's just that Western analysts / historians considered it possible / likely. The title of the source you mention suggests the authors are not of Western outlook!! - so anything much said there will give a clear answer.
While Western ideas were the only information available, they were directly on the article's agenda. Now the Polish Navy has done its thing, the Western speculation becomes an example / case-study in East-West relations post-war. That source sounds very interesting in that context.
SquisherDa (talk) 17:53, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

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Stub or Start?[edit]

Hi, I think that the article "Asar-i Şevket-class ironclad" qualifies as "start", so not sure why you downgraded it to "stub" even if you're still working on it. Regards, DPdH (talk) 14:21, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

It was just a sentence or two of prose at the time - that's pretty much the definition of a stub. Parsecboy (talk) 09:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Dante Alighieri.png[edit]

Please provide additional information, such as the name of the author/photographer and their lifetime, so that potential re-users in countries not following the rule of the shorter term can determine when any remaining copyright in this image expires for them.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:26, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

You know as much as I do, which is just what the Europeana link provides. Parsecboy (talk) 21:51, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Malcolm David Wanklyn[edit]

If you have time, could you take a look here? I and other user have been discussing back and forth with no progress, somebody else's opinion would be a great help.--Olonia (talk) 22:15, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Dapi and I don't exactly get along, for much the same reason you're having trouble with him now, so I don't think it would be productive if I got involved. I will say a couple of things here, though - first, he's wrong here, Uboat.net is a reliable source (per discussions like this and elsewhere). Second, it seems obvious that if there are records of vessels in service after they were claimed to have been sunk, Wanklyn was wrong and it should be made clear that he was wrong (not "left to readers to decide" - we aren't cable news).
Probably your best bet would be to post at WT:MILHIST to get other editors involved, and just comment on the facts of the situation (i.e., the article presents it as though Wanklyn sank Settembrini when he did not, etc.) Parsecboy (talk) 12:05, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, I will do so.--Olonia (talk) 12:56, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

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March 2017 Military History Writers' Contest[edit]

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SMS Kaiser Barbarossa scheduled for TFA[edit]

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Thank you for yet another emperor, and the steady flow of GAs! - I should turn to writing the next GA ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:24, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda! We all go through more productive periods, as well as slower times, don't we? Parsecboy (talk) 11:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes ;) - I try to fill a red link a day, and call that productive, but had a FA and three GAs also this year, and more to come. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Certainly another way to measure it! And an FA in four months is nothing to sneeze at - that's as many as I've had (unless you count SMS Schwaben, but that FAC ran from November to the beginning of January, so I'd put it in the 2016 column). Parsecboy (talk) 16:05, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Jan to Mar 17 Milhist article reviewing[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Ottoman ironclad Hamidiye[edit]

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Another vessel concept article for deletion?[edit]

SMX-25 was deleted partly on grounds that none was ever built. The same applies to Project 1231. What are your thoughts on that article? User:HopsonRoad 22:34, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't know, in part because I have no way to evaluate Russian sources. What I can tell you is it's covered in Polmar's Cold War Submarines, so it might well be a notable project. Not all cancelled projects ought to be deleted - those that are covered in reliable sources usually merit articles. Parsecboy (talk) 11:59, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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April 2017 Military History Writers' Contest[edit]

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Help deleting an attack edit[edit]

Will you please delete this edit to remove this filth from Wikipedia?--TM 19:19, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

I'd be happy to - thanks for letting me know. Parsecboy (talk) 19:20, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Would you mind protecting the page? It's vandalized twice today. I think I know why.--TM 19:23, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
It looks like it was just a short thing, so protection probably isn't necessary - if the trolls come back, let me know and I'll take care of it. Parsecboy (talk) 13:48, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Feth-i Bülend-class ironclad[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017[edit]

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Not sure if you have one of these already[edit]

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This National Barnstar of Merit for the state of Germany is awarded to Parsecboy for his extensive and far reaching work in the department of German naval history, a topic that is sadly underrated. Cheers, and God's speed. Vami_IV✠ 11:00, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Before I leave, a cursory view of your talk page speaks volumes to your good character. –Vami_IV✠ 11:02, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Vami! Much appreciated :) Parsecboy (talk) 11:46, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

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GA review[edit]

I'm currently doing a GA review of the Eugene Cernan article and I get a copyvio warning using the tools. I think it's because there's a large quote in the text but since I'm new to the review thing, I am unsure what to do. I was wondering if you could give me some guidance. Thanks. Llammakey (talk) 10:06, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, it looks like it's the long quote that's causing the problem. There are a few snippets of text that are identical, but those are phrases like the specific degree titles he earned and such. I wouldn't be worried about a copyvio, I'd probably just note the long quote causing the warning in Earwig's tool and that it's ok. Parsecboy (talk) 11:25, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. Llammakey (talk) 12:12, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Haitian ships[edit]

Parsecboy, thank you for your recent change to the current Haitian gunboat Crête-à-Pierrot. I was just wondering if you could possibly take a look at some other Haitian ships that may need renaming; it would tremendously be appreciated Face-smile.svg. It's a relatively short list and have compiled them to the following (which are all redirects):

Thank you kindly. Savvyjack23 (talk) 16:56, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Savvyjack - most of those (if not all) are probably better at their current location, since their careers were longer and/or more notable under their original names. For example, the first vessel spent 16 years as Umbria and less than a year as Consul Gostrück. On a somewhat unrelated note, you might be interested to know I wrote the article on Umbria/Consul Gostrück. Parsecboy (talk) 18:00, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

May 2017 Military History Writers' Contest[edit]

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Thanks AR! Parsecboy (talk) 12:06, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Osmaniye-class ironclad[edit]

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Congratulations![edit]

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For your work on List of protected cruisers of Italy, SMS Weissenburg, and HMS Benbow (1913), promoted between April and June 2017. For the coordinators, Zawed (talk) 09:02, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Zawed! Parsecboy (talk) 16:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

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Hi[edit]

Hey! Columbidae is under review from quite a while now. ProgrammingGeek was on a wikibreak until september; however, he commented on the review in starting june, which I was unaware of (apparently, it was not on my watchlist Face-tongue.svg). I amended the issues pointed out by him, but it looks like his wikibreak might have resumed. I worked on it a lot to get it to striking range of GA, and I really need this review. So, could you review it instead? It would be really helpful. Thanks a bunch. Face-smile.svg Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:32, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Normally, I'd be happy to help, but I'll actually be going on a trip myself the morning after next, and I don't know that I'd have time to complete the review in that time. You might post a request at the GAN talk page like I did here - you might find someone able to take on the review. You could also ask at the Birds Wikiproject, though I have no idea how many active editors there are there. If you haven't by next the middle of next week, I can take a look then. Parsecboy (talk) 23:21, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your advice. Face-smile.svg Yeah, I will do the same; let me ask some other user to review instead. Also, thank you again for your advice. Adityavagarwal (talk) 11:55, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Good luck - I just realized I had left out a bit above - I meant to say "If you haven't found anyone to review it by the middle of next week..." Parsecboy (talk) 12:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
No, If you haven't by next the middle of next week, I can take a look then, I read that, and understood that you would review it by the middle of the next week, if I could not get anybody to reivew it, so you did not leave out anything. Face-smile.svg You are really really kind. Face-smile.svg. Also, you think you could review the other one Amami rabbit? It is short and is not reviewed yet. I took care of most things. Even if you could not complete it by when you depart, could you complete it by 28th? Adityavagarwal (talk) 12:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Battle of Heligoland (1864)[edit]

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A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png We don't check in as much anymore, but we probably should more often. So here's a beer. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 14:58, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Ed! You're just always too damn busy with companies that forget to put the UP on their maps! Parsecboy (talk) 09:20, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Just call it the revenge of the UP. ;-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:54, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of SMS Basilisk (1862)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Basilisk (1862)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Blitz (1862)[edit]

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Your GA nomination of SMS Blitz (1862)[edit]

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