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Hey thanks for the message and the feedback. I am enjoying finally contributing to wikipedia after using it so much for so long. I have some sort of obsession with seeing correct information... maybe that is part of why all of us get involved in editing... haha. I am trying to build up some cred so I can get more involved, like getting revert permission(or whatever it is called) so I can use huggle and have a bigger impact. Do you have any tips for a noob on building credibility and maximizing positive impact? Thanks!

Always sign your comments with ~~~~, that is easy to forget when you first start. Mainly it's just familiarize yourself with the policies, which are only guidelines, not rules. The main focus is to create an accurate, unbiased, encyclopedia. Copyright issues, vandalism, and things like that do come up but for the most part it's just creating and editing. I say there are no rules because sometimes an edit that constructively adds to an article or otherwise benefits the project as a whole may not be directly in line with a certain policy. Above all, what would you expect to see in a regular encyclopedia? Relevant information, not speculation, some pictures, citations for information that isn't general public knowledge...which is most things. Rollback rights aren't that big of a deal, it's a good first step as far as gaining more responsibility on here but undo does just as well, which you've used appropriately already. cliffsteinman -- Discuss 17:50, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

David Otunga Wikipedia

Hi Cliff, I saw that the page was edited without a source. I cannot confirm that he was released. The editing was done not with confirmed or auto confirmed user. Should I revert it back to how it was and explain that there needs to be a source to confirm that he was released? Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 23:04, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly! I usually try and find a source just in case, but you're not obligated. Always leave a reason though. Thank you :D cliffsteinman -- Discuss 23:20, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I wouldn't mind if there was a source but I couldn't find one so I thought it should have be deleted without one. I even went on WWE's web site. Much appreciated. I have updated it with my reason. Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 00:03, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, BLP (biography of a living person) articles often have more wishful updates than factual. Or cited by a page that is mostly unknown. Since it's supposed to be a live encyclopedia, references have to be very credible. This is the first place many people look for information about a person. cliffsteinman -- Discuss 00:09, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree. I have deleted the sentence since there was no reference and asked the user to create a login ID and password and not use an IP address.Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 00:14, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have a problem. His page keeps getting updated by an IP address. Should I have it protected? There was no source again for his release.01:02, 2 August 2014 (UTC) Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 01:06, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New page reviewer granted

Hi Cliffsteinman. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group. Please check back at WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember:

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Articles for deletion

Hi. The player articles that I've created both pass rule 4 of the notability guidelines for ice hockey. Here is the rule:

Achieved preeminent honors (all-time top-10 career scorer or First or Second Team All-American) in the men's play versions of the Atlantic Hockey, Big Ten Conference, ECAC Hockey, Hockey East, National Collegiate Hockey Conference, or Western Collegiate Hockey Association;

Eclipse13 (talk) 00:07, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eclipse13 yes it does. My apologies, I've removed the tags and will mark the pages as reviewed. Thank you for your work on these. cliffsteinman -- Discuss 00:17, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just an FYI Eclipse13, Cliffsteinman was correct. The guideline states (and is helpfully wikilinked) as First or Second Team All-American, NOT First or Second Team All-Conference. There is a very big difference in coverage between the 10th best player in one of the six conferences vs. the 10th best player in the country. Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 22:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Glycintennial

I've closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Draft:Glycintennial because Articles for Deletion is strictly for articles only, not pages in draftspace. The page could be nominated for speedy deletion, probably most appropriately under criterion G11, or nominated under Miscellany for Deletion (though I don't think this page qualifies for such deletion), but instead I've chosen to decline the draft under the Articles for Creation system. If you've got any questions, let me know! — Bilorv (talk) 00:46, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bhagwa, Jammu and Kashmir

Hallo, I've just come across this while stub-sorting. There were a few problems with your edits to it. I see you're new to being a new page reviewer, from @Rosguill:'s post above, so I hope I can help by explaining a few things:

You added {{stub}}, but it already had the appropriate {{JammuKashmir-geo-stub}}. Please take care about this, as adding the unnecessary tag wastes other editors' time.
You added {{one source}}. Not ideal, as it had two sources. Neither of them really WP:RS, but {{refimprove}} was a better tag. While looking at it I also combined the two uses of one reference, for clarity.
Any verifiable populated place is assumed to be notable: see WP:NGEO "Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable", so it's a waste of everyone's time to query the notability of this village. (And if you did want to take it to AfD you needed to give a reason for doing so: I see from your withdrawn AfD that you didn't do so).
It may not be strictly part of NPP, but when an article has a disambiguated title, or mentions an alternative name, it's really helpful to check to make sure that it can be found by the reader searching for the base name or the alternative name, and to add those navigational links where needed. I've created a hatnote at Saffron (color), which is where Bhagwa leads to, and added a redirect from the other spelling of Bhagwah.
Not every new article is a stub: I've removed the stub tag you added to Sverige S-1, and I disagree about the length of its lead. The two brief paragraphs give a fair summary of this short (but not stub) article. But it needed an {{italic title}} template to get its title into italics, and also in the lead, as ships/boats are always italicised (confirmed in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships), which also specifies that this applies to boats as well as ships). I also created the talk page while I was looking at the article, which seems helpful as it brings it to the attention of relevant Wikiprojects.

There's a lot to learn about editing Wikipedia and about NPP, but it's always an interesting journey. Thanks, and Happy Editing! PamD 09:59, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to go through those. I will take a few days off and again read through the new page review content before doing any more. I appreciate your help! cliffsteinman -- Discuss 15:04, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Every city is not able to be included in Wikipedia.": wrong

You said at User_talk:FlyJet777#Ways_to_improve_Bhagwa,_Jammu_and_Kashmir "Every city is not able to be included in Wikipedia."

No, that's wrong. Every city, anywhere in the world, and also every village, ghost town, any place which is or has been a populated place, should have an article. See Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features).

Please slow down in your editing and take time to read more about Wikipedia's policies before continuing to do any New Page Patrol. Thanks.

Pinging @Rosguill and FlyJet777: for info. PamD 10:11, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PamD I already went over this with cliffsteinman on my talk page. The only thing that I'd add, so as to keep them from overcorrecting in response to this advice, is to remember that while every independent city, town, village, etc. is notable, neighborhoods or subdivisions of cities are not immediately notable and are primarily subject to GNG. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:15, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill: Thanks, glad to see that you are mentoring this new new page reviewer. You're right, I exaggerated in saying "any place which is or has been a populated place"! The wording at WP:GEOLAND distinguishes between:

Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable ...

and

Populated places without legal recognition are considered on a case-by-case basis in accordance with the GNG ...

But "Every city is not able to be included in Wikipedia." seems an alarmingly sweeping misunderstanding, and "The source mentioned for these numbers is also an Indian based website ..." shows a worrying US-centric approach to this international encyclopedia, implying that this editor doesn't consider Indian sources to be respectable. (Of course I would probably never have crossed paths with this editor if they hadn't added that inappropriate stub tag to Bhagwa, Jammu and Kashmir). Ah well. PamD 21:50, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: What?? I'm saying they had one citation that shows anything about this village on a website with no citations to any real data. If I saw a US website with just text and no citations for where they got the data I wouldn't count it as credible. I can make a website with these numbers on them and not cite them. The rest of the website doesn't have much credible data either. I may have not gotten this one right but as Rosguill said NOT every place is notable enough. I asked an admin after making this edit to see where I was at and was told it should be easily WP:NGEO. It would be one thing to discuss where I could improve (which you started with) and it's another to accuse me of bias bordering on nationalism and going to a user's talk page and bashing me, "How wrong can you get?". So, I set the tags, verified with an admin that this should be deleted under NGEO, you told me I was wrong then went to another user's page to say how wrong I was and worried by it, and removed the tags. So you've left the tag removed after knowing this as well as not owning up to it on the user's page. cliffsteinman -- Discuss 14:14, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cliffsteinman: I don't see the problem: perhaps you need to take more care about your wording. You said "Every city is not able to be included in Wikipedia": that is not the case (assuming "city" to mean a legally recognised populated place, present or past). You said "The source mentioned for these numbers is also an Indian based website ..." which implied (as I read it) "if this had been a USA based website it wouldn't have been a problem". PamD 16:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New pages

I see that on your talk page you say "Why doesn't anyone write a full New Page?!? Please, if you create a new page make it look complete, not just a few things and an info box. It's best to start a subpage first then move it to the mainspace when it's ready.". I'd say that as long as the "few things" include at least one full sentence which explains why the subject of the article is likely to be notable (in Wikipedia terms) and at least one reliable source which supports that statement, then that's just fine. Wikipedia articles grow from stubs, often through the collaborative contributions of many editors. If you start an article as a subpage and keep it there until it's "complete", that goes against the whole way of working here: the reader can't find the information in the mean time, and another editor might be busy working on the same topic in their own userspace. No, a solid, well-sourced, stub is an asset to the encyclopedia and should be treated with respect. PamD 10:24, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I made my talk page around 10 years ago. I certainly didn't mean it had to be a full, complete article. I think it was more the one sentence, no reference, sort of pages that I was seeing a lot. There was no new page review that required any overdight. cliffsteinman -- Discuss 15:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback!

Hi Cliff! Thanks so much for your feedback on the new Datera page and your help adding resources! It's helpful to see the type of additional resources needed to fully round out a page. PDX5354 (talk) 00:21, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020

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NPP Sorting can be a great way to find pages needing new page patrolling that match your strengths and interests. Using ORES, it divides articles into topics such as Literature or Chemistry and on Geography. Take a look and see if you can find time to patrol a couple pages a day. With over 10,000 pages in the queue, the highest it's been since ACPERM, your help could really make a difference.

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New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	DannyS712 bot III (talk)	67,552	Patrol Page Curation
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5	JTtheOG (talk)	12,901	Patrol Page Curation
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8	Mccapra (talk)	4,918	Patrol Page Curation
9	Hughesdarren (talk)	4,520	Patrol Page Curation
10	Utopes (talk)	3,958	Patrol Page Curation

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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

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November 2021 backlog drive

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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

Hello Cliffsteinman,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 807 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 851 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000^[a] at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.^[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 11624 articles, as of 10:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination: MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.

Open letter to the WMF: The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.

TIP - Reviewing by subject: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.

New reviewers: The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

Suggestions:

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

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New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive

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On 1 May, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of redirects patrolled and for maintaining a streak throughout the drive. Article patrolling is not part of the drive. Sign up here! There is a possibility that the drive may not run if there are <20 registered participants. Participants will be notified if this is the case.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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New pages patrol needs your help!

Hello Cliffsteinman,

The New Page Patrol team is sending you this impromptu message to inform you of a steeply rising backlog of articles needing review. If you have any extra time to spare, please consider reviewing one or two articles each day to help lower the backlog. You can start reviewing by visiting Special:NewPagesFeed. Thank you very much for your help.

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Sent by Zippybonzo using MediaWiki message delivery at 06:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive

New Page Patrol \| October 2023 Backlog Drive
On 1 October, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Articles will earn 3x as many points compared to redirects. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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New pages patrol newsletter

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!

October backlog elimination drive: A one-month backlog drive for October will start in one week! Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Articles will earn 4x as many points compared to redirects. You can sign up here.

PageTriage code upgrades: Upgrades to the PageTriage code, initiated by the NPP open letter in 2022 and actioned by the WMF Moderator Tools Team in 2023, are ongoing. More information can be found here. As part of this work, the Special:NewPagesFeed now has a new version in beta! The update leaves the NewPagesFeed appearance and function mostly identical to the old one, but updates the underlying code, making it easier to maintain and helping make sure the extension is not decommissioned due to maintenance issues in the future. You can try out the new Special:NewPagesFeed here - it will replace the current version soon.

Notability tip: Professors can meet WP:PROF #1 by having their academic papers be widely cited by their peers. When reviewing professor articles, it is a good idea to find their Google Scholar or Scopus profile and take a look at their h-index and number of citations. As a very rough rule of thumb, for most fields, articles on people with a h-index of twenty or more, a first-authored paper with more than a thousand citations, or multiple papers each with more than a hundred citations are likely to be kept at AfD.

Reviewing tip: If you would like like a second opinion on your reviews or simply want another new page reviewer by your side when patrolling, we recommend pair reviewing! This is where two reviewers use Discord voice chat and screen sharing to communicate with each other while reviewing the same article simultaneously. This is a great way to learn and transfer knowledge.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October 2023 NPP Backlog Drive sign up

Hello! I noticed that you are signed up for the October 2023 NPP Backlog Drive. However, you're going to be unable to participate if you do not have the New Page Reviewer permission. If you are still interested in participating in the backlog drive, then I encourage you to request the permission at WP:PERM/NPR. I have, for the moment, removed you from the participants list as you not able to participate at this point in time. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:19, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

November Articles for creation backlog drive

Hello Cliffsteinman:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over 900 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive

New Page Patrol \| January 2024 Articles Backlog Drive
On 1 January 2024, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Each review will earn 1 point. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

Hello Cliffsteinman,

Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.

Reviewing tip: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages within their most familiar subjects can use the regularly updated NPP Browser tool.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New page patrol May 2024 Backlog drive

New Page Patrol \| May 2024 Articles Backlog Drive
On 1 May 2024, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Each review will earn 1 point. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol September 2024 Backlog drive

New pages patrol \| September 2024 Backlog Drive
On 1 September 2024, a one-month backlog drive for new pages patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Each article review will earn 1 point, and each redirect review will earn 0.2 points. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:09, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] t including another ~6,000 redirects

[2] The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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