User talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2022/September
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Recent warning
The reason of warning me is completely unacceptable as I have removed vandalism from martin braithwaites post about him joining a club he is not. Therefore, you should be warning the previous user who is vandalising his page and not me. I would like the administrator of the bot to please sort this issue out.
Kind Regards
Wikipedia Editor Leedsunited128 (talk) 18:17, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Leedsunited128 Please follow the directions at User:ClueBot NG/FalsePositives. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 18:29, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Talk:Libs of TikTok/Archives/2022/April
A tag has been placed on Talk:Libs of TikTok/Archives/2022/April requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
technical error. Date based archiving stopped working, and was wrong duration compared to stated. Fixed, merged into numerical archives.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Talk:Libs of TikTok/Archives/2022/May
A tag has been placed on Talk:Libs of TikTok/Archives/2022/May requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
technical error. Date based archiving stopped working, and was wrong duration compared to stated. Fixed, merged into numerical archives.
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Did I break the ClueBot III archiving?
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I finally moved my manual archives to ClueBot the other day and I was feeling pretty proud of myself for getting it to work. However, it has conducted its first run of archiving and it seems to have disregarded my archiveprefix and broken its previous good work. [1] Anyone can help or point me where I need to go? Andre🚐 14:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's still not working right sadly. It ignores my archiveprefix and tries to archive to the wrong page. Andre🚐 14:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- There are a couple of things I spotted. The first one, which I don't think is the reason, is the format parameter documentation reports a space in it like, format= %%i. The second is that you are hard coding your archive prefix to your main user page not your talk page. I would recommend trying archiveprefix={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archive as written in the documentation so that it automatically captures your talk page. Hope that helps. Inomyabcs (talk) 01:05, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, I'm sorry, this isn't going to solve the problem. The issue is that I already have 54 talk page archive pages with the format User:Andrevan/Archive54 so it's correct to those to have the %%i without a space and to have it be under my main User page, at least, it has been able to generate the index User:ClueBot III/Master Detailed Indices/User talk:Andrevan. But actually, the problem I have now is that the bot is creating the User talk:Andrevan/Archives/1 page almost like the archiveprefix is being ignored. Andre🚐 01:08, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the clarification. I wonder if it is trying to prevent overriding of your already existing archive pages. Your start page number is 1, but maybe it should start at 55. Inomyabcs (talk) 01:13, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hm, OK, I'll try that. Andre🚐 01:24, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- That didn't work. The bot created User talk:Andrevan/Archives/55 Andre🚐 16:23, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh. Sorry that didn't work out. The code for the archive bot is a little beyond my ability to try and see where the issue is. I hope someone else is able to help narrow this down. Good luck. Inomyabcs (talk) 16:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for trying to help anyway. I'm asking if someone on AWB/Tasks with pagemover can mass move my old archives to the right form. Andre🚐 17:00, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh. Sorry that didn't work out. The code for the archive bot is a little beyond my ability to try and see where the issue is. I hope someone else is able to help narrow this down. Good luck. Inomyabcs (talk) 16:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- That didn't work. The bot created User talk:Andrevan/Archives/55 Andre🚐 16:23, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hm, OK, I'll try that. Andre🚐 01:24, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the clarification. I wonder if it is trying to prevent overriding of your already existing archive pages. Your start page number is 1, but maybe it should start at 55. Inomyabcs (talk) 01:13, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, I'm sorry, this isn't going to solve the problem. The issue is that I already have 54 talk page archive pages with the format User:Andrevan/Archive54 so it's correct to those to have the %%i without a space and to have it be under my main User page, at least, it has been able to generate the index User:ClueBot III/Master Detailed Indices/User talk:Andrevan. But actually, the problem I have now is that the bot is creating the User talk:Andrevan/Archives/1 page almost like the archiveprefix is being ignored. Andre🚐 01:08, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- There are a couple of things I spotted. The first one, which I don't think is the reason, is the format parameter documentation reports a space in it like, format= %%i. The second is that you are hard coding your archive prefix to your main user page not your talk page. I would recommend trying archiveprefix={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archive as written in the documentation so that it automatically captures your talk page. Hope that helps. Inomyabcs (talk) 01:05, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- If this solves the problem, we should update the documentation to note that only a subpage of the page being archived is valid for the archiveprefix. Andre🚐 18:35, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- ClueBot III indeed only allows archiving to subpages. It's to prevent against people from copying the archival configuration template verbatim and ending up with two unrelated pages being archived to one set of archives. If it isn't a subpage, it'll pick the default {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archives/. This is touched on in the documentation of archiveprefix ("This parameter must be set to a fully qualified page name under the page you wish to archive.") and later under the optional key parameter ("The value of this parameter must match an internally generated key in order for the archives to be stored anywhere other than as subpages of the page being archived."), but could definitely be better explained. Perhaps you'd like to have a go at updating the docs? The key parameter was designed to support more complex archive setups for bigger noticeboards, but was never really used because generating a key has to be done by me or someone else with direct access to the running bot's process, and only really useful in extremely narrow use-cases. -- Cobi(t|c|b) 23:50, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info. Yes, I saw the key thing and thought about whether that would solve the problem. And I guess the documentation is accurate too, I just didn't understand it. Waiting to see if everything is fixed now that we mass-renamed the pages to match that default. Andre🚐 23:53, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- ClueBot III indeed only allows archiving to subpages. It's to prevent against people from copying the archival configuration template verbatim and ending up with two unrelated pages being archived to one set of archives. If it isn't a subpage, it'll pick the default {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archives/. This is touched on in the documentation of archiveprefix ("This parameter must be set to a fully qualified page name under the page you wish to archive.") and later under the optional key parameter ("The value of this parameter must match an internally generated key in order for the archives to be stored anywhere other than as subpages of the page being archived."), but could definitely be better explained. Perhaps you'd like to have a go at updating the docs? The key parameter was designed to support more complex archive setups for bigger noticeboards, but was never really used because generating a key has to be done by me or someone else with direct access to the running bot's process, and only really useful in extremely narrow use-cases. -- Cobi(t|c|b) 23:50, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Bad word addition
Hello, is it possible to add "Satpal Dhaliwal" and "Bhupinder Dulai" as bad words? These names keep being added by IP users to various luxury watchmaker articles (Rolex, Audemars Piguet, etc.) as the CEO, etc. As soon as an article's temporary protection is lifted, the name is edited back as CEO; when a few articles are protected, they find an article that is not protected to add themselves as CEO. It is very difficult to keep on top of this vandalism, especially as higher-profile articles become protected and the IP users seek out other watchmaker articles with fewer watchers--the edits stay up much longer because they aren't patrolled by nearly as many editors. Thank you. Spongeworthy93 (talk) 21:12, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Spongeworthy93: (talk page stalker) I think this would work better as an edit filter. I suggest you post at Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested, giving diffs of typical edits that should be prevented. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:20, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Can I give bots wikicookies?
oh well ur getting one ;)
InvadingInvader (talk) 22:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Pound sterling not being archived
Can anyone see why archiving at Talk:Pound sterling doesn't seem to be working? Still has entries from 2012. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Where to start... It has a do not archive flag set to end last month on Aug 14th. The age flag on the archive script is for 3 years. The archiveprefix is breaking across whitespace and should probably include the underscore like; archiveprefix=Talk:Pound_sterling/Archives/ . Even better it should probably be archiveprefix={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archives/ . Inomyabcs (talk) 11:26, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- The substitution made the same white space break. I manually included the underscore and will see if that works. Inomyabcs (talk) 00:21, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- I made some changes as well. Not sure if white space is causing the problem. Let's wait for 60 to 72 hours from now. —usernamekiran (talk) 09:27, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- The substitution made the same white space break. I manually included the underscore and will see if that works. Inomyabcs (talk) 00:21, 30 September 2022 (UTC)