User talk:Darrell Greenwood

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Maersk Alabama hijacking[edit]

Hi Darrell,

Sorry for my revision on Maersk Alabama hijacking. I'm not quite sure what happened (some sort of error while using huggle). I'm Sorry. I've also removed the rv template from this page.

Kind Regards -- Marek.69 talk 23:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for the revert on trojan horse (computing). my huggle was acting slow and i clicked the revert button twice thus reverting two of the vandal's edits along with Cluebot which I didn't intend. With regards, SchnitzelMannGreek. 23:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I was just puzzling out what happened and decided your edit was a good faith edit probably messed up by slow response of Wikipedia at the same time, so it is nice to know I got it right. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 23:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Tier 1[edit]

Hi, actually I tried to remove the two spaces in 'such as the RIPE RIS database , the Oregon Route Views servers'. You have any idea how to fix this? Purely esthetical. TIA, Vels (talk) 01:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are seeing. I see no extraneous spaces that need to be removed. Your edit actually deleted the url and a couple of square brackets, which are formatting code to make the link 'RIPE RIS database' hot, like this: RIPE RIS database Your edit is shown in red here: Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 03:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


Hi, I replied to your message on WP:MEDMOS. :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 20:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


Did you not see the {{inuse}} template displaid at the top of the article. I've sorted out the port of registry / homeport issue. Registered at Lunenburg under the Canadian flag. Homeport was Bridgetown. The two are not necessarily the same thing. Mjroots (talk) 19:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Further research has revealed that she operated under the Bahamas flag. Mjroots (talk) 20:16, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I saw the {{inuse}} template after I finished a complicated (for me) edit. Sorry. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 20:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


I'm going to revert balance to refer to the disambiguation page. I suspect that this is a poetic name, rather than a literal name, and that the ambiguity is intentional. There is a Plaestinian organization Almezan (same word in Arabic) involved in justice issues. If it really is an arms smuggler, a reference to the "scales of justice" or "balance of power" or evening up the fight are all quite apt. Pustelnik (talk) 11:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: User:[edit]

Hello Darrel Greenwood,
I'm afraid you may be dissapointed AGF in regards to the edits by on US Airways Flight 1549, as this IP has a recent history of vandalism on Aircraft articles (≈20) since 8 May. Please see User_talk: for their warnings.
Regards, -- (talk) 19:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I was puzzling a bit about User: Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 23:30, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

You are most welcome Darrell Greenwood. The change you saw was a little subtle, (empennage → empenage as I recall). They raised my ire when I was expanding Pamir Airways Flight 112 ‎(Monday 17th, crash in Afghanistan), and with no data on survivors/deaths they jump in and decide everyone on board is dead! I look at their talk/contribs to see if they are legitimate and horrors !. ps, I have re-reverted your last revert at Gary Taubes as reverted your revert of them.(?) Face-wink.svg Cry Havoc! -- (talk) 05:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


Hi Darrel! I saw that italic change back to non-italic under cover of colon over on sourdough! No edit war here. Peace. I am curious, did you feel the cited Manual of Style didn't apply? Or was there other reasoning involved? Gzuufy (talk) 23:21, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry. Your edit is correct. I see, reviewing the history, I unwittingly deleted the italicization when I expanded the citation previous to the colon edit. I have my suspicions on how I accidentally did, and will change my work flow to prevent future occurrences . Thanks for the heads up. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Qf32 Talk Page[edit]

I commented on the abuse you received on that page. I hope it doesn't cause you a problem; my apology in advance if it does. I just don't have much patience with petty tyrants... (talk) 03:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Your comments certainly won't cause me any problem. Thanks for your kind words and support. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 03:26, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
You are most welcome. It now looks like you have been thoroughly vindicated by all the contributing editors, but one... ;-) Cheers. (talk) 01:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

swimming eagles[edit]

Wonderful! Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 18:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Well spotted...[edit]

... but I really don't recall what I was saying there! Maury Markowitz (talk) 03:20, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Interesting Edit to Chocolate[edit]

Thank you very much for the note about my edit to the chocolate page. Thank you also for the helpful hint in your note(GlassLadyBug (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)).

Jonathon Ive Article[edit]

I was wondering if you had the time available to check out this edit on the Jonathon Ive article

Many thanks

Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 10:14, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, how can I help you? What do you want help with? You seemed to have removed an awful lot of useful/standard stuff, like the infobox for starters, and at least one ref. Be good to get the infobox back, and I note from your edit notes that the refs may be old/out of date. Best Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 10:19, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
OK, I got it - bit slow today! Reverted back to your version on article, sent him a welcome4 and vandal1. Now a choice on his part. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 10:29, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Steve Jobs Intro[edit]

You moved the last paragraph of the introduction to the body, for reasons explained in the edit summary.

I wondered if you would consider reversing this. While the lede generally should be short, it should also summarize the topic for a reader. I'm neutral on the topic (note I've not edited other articles or things related to him) but in this case I think there's good reason for an exception. A reader wanting an overview of Jobs must have some summary of the impact and scope of his life (which isn't controversial or questioned by any reliable source). The intro in this case vcan't just say "he was from this place, ran these businesses, developed these things, died at this age of this cause". The overview of the lede must surely include an overview of stature, recognition, or impact. The paragraph you moved was fairly short and dense but summed the scope up well.

Could you consider, or discuss, reversing that paragraph back to the original position? I think the article topic is better that way. Thanks! FT2 (Talk | email) 18:56, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the courtesy of opening a discussion. If you had reverted I probably would have left your revert, even though disagreeing.
I have seen in the past, when a subject is current, the lede grows, often in a poor way. I had noticed the last paragraph was particularly unreadable in this case due to the enormous number of references and moving it as I did seemed a elegant fix. References in a lede always bother me, it is supposed to be a summary and therefore ideally shouldn't have any references. (I spend time picking references out of a lede without deleting them from the article.)
I haven't thought it through, the last one sentence paragraph being simple and good as it stands, but could you, or I, or we, maybe come up with a summary-like addition to that paragraph. I'll have a look at it. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:25, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Oh dear, the paragraph in question has been considerably changed, and at first glance improved. I'll have to find the original now. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:31, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Found it, you moved it :-) Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
OK I agree with you. How about this:
"On October 5, 2011, Jobs died in California at age 56, seven years after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.[15]He was widely described as a visionary, pioneer and genius—perhaps one of the foremost— in the field of business, innovation, and product design, and a man who had profoundly changed the face of the modern world, revolutionized at least six different industries,and who was an "exemplar for all chief executives". His death was widely mourned and considered a loss to the world by commentators across the globe."
I wonder if we can get away with leaving all the references and the original paragraph in the body of the article where you moved them, perhaps with a note referencing that fact. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:49, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Possible edit summary: "After discussion [1] consensus to add to summary of 'recognition' to last paragraph of lede." Or whatever you want. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 20:12, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Your draft above works. Would add 4 words: "At/On his death he was described...". If you're happy leaving the cites in the main text that's ok by me. Leave it to you? FT2 (Talk | email) 20:33, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Sure. Thank you very much for your insight. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 20:55, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Conrad Black[edit]

Err, why did you revert that bro? Isn't it good to have the civillian photo in the main infobox and the mugshot in the conviction infobox, in the middle of the article?-- (talk) 20:48, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Could you answer please?-- (talk) 13:26, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Darrell Greenwood![edit]

I remember your name, or a similar one, from the Usenet days on sourdough topics! Your award to me is the first one I've received, and now I need to do some reading on what that is and how to share the love! I recently found some reasonably new science regarding the evolution of organisms in a sourdough, and have been wondering about where and how to add that. The word "stable" is often used in the article, but currently doesn't define it. It could help with understanding the young seed-sour vs. years old motherdough taste differences. Taste differences apparently leads into amino acids and their possible dough supplementation, and thus probably gets into some weeds. Anyway, Thanks Again! Gzuufy (talk) 19:56, 18 December 2011 (UTC)


Must've accidentally clicked rollback on the watchlist in regards to Belize. Much appreciated for your double checking my edits. CMD (talk) 03:24, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, I couldn't figure out why you had reverted. I can empathize with clicking in error, I've done it myself a couple times in the last while and messed up an edit. Cheers, Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 03:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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6 Degrees of Separation[edit]

Hi Darrell,

I was just reading the cited article and the original number was incorrect - the average was stated to be 5.5. I simply corrected the wikipedia article to reflect this. Please check the cited article to confirm this, and remove the "unconstructive editing" tag from my talk page if you agree. If I have made a mistake then we should try to find the true value.


Josh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshiansmith (talkcontribs) 02:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

It was 6.6.
You changed it to 5.5.
The reference says "We investigate on a planetary-scale the oft-cited report that people are separated by "six degrees of separation" and find that the average path length among Messenger users is 6.6.".
I simply reverted your edit to what it was before you edited. It now conforms to the reference. Please clarify your concerns, from my point of view you simply vandalized the number, and there are a surprising number of vandals who like to vandalize numbers. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 03:26, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

My apologies Darryl - A colleague and I were concurrently investigating two similar projects - I got the articles mixed up. You're correct that the true value is 6.6. Rest assured I have no interest in vandalizing Wikipedia! - Josh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshiansmith (talkcontribs) 08:51, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you![edit]

Bubble Tea.png To go with your Peking duck. Thanks! Bearian (talk) 20:04, 27 November 2012 (UTC)



thanks for your message in my commons account. I did the fix and deleted a "-3" in the convert call of the article and hope for best. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 19:18, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

ISBN revert[edit]

I have no idea why you reverted me with this edit. ISBN values of ISBN-13: 1234567890 are incorrect. Magic links do not work with this format. ISBN should have only a space between ISBN and the number... ISBN 1234567890. Bgwhite (talk) 22:09, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

My apologies on reverting your edit. It was not intended. Your edit followed the insertion of spam by Globalpulisya. I was considering how to revert the spam with your subsequent edit when I accidentally reverted your edit. Globalpulisya inserted the spam in several articles to promote what I presume is his/her book, supported only by a self published reference. I deleted the same paragraph in the article where I accidentally reverted your correct edit, and in Coffee, Manila Hotel, Filipinophile, and List of fictional African countries. Again, my profuse apologies. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 22:33, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Apple Inc. revert & Facebook[edit]

I am extremely confused as to why you reverted my edit to Apple Inc. I particularly resent the accusation of vandalism. I merely updated the market cap to a more recent figure, and I cited my source which was authoritative. How does this constitute vandalism? I see that you've now deleted my update on the Facebook page--which again, was merely updating Facebook's market capitalization to a more recent figure. Again, I cited an autoritative source. At present, the figures on that page are old. They need to be updated. What gives? I had planned on doing many such updates, since so much of the financial information posted on Wikipedia is so woefully out of date, and now I find myself accused of vandalism. What am I supposed to think?ThomasMikael (talk) 23:22, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

It is the other changes that caused the reversion. My edit summary for Apple Inc. "Revert Vandalism. Titles within references changed, e.g., 'Literally' -> 'Figuratively, 'Amazing' -> 'Barely Noticeable', 'Greatest' -> 'Average'" Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC) are the edits with the improper changes. Scroll down and you will see them. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 19:39, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
O my gosh. Thank you so much for flagging this, I had no idea what was going on. I installed a plugin called Downworthy on my browser whose intended function was to change hyperbolic headlines on annoying viral sites. I had no idea it was changing stuff while I was editing on Wikipedia, sheesh. This is the plugin: This is the news article that informed me of its existence: I have now uninstalled the plugin, and informed the creators of this glitch.
I appreciate you letting me know how the incorrect edits came to be. That is not a scenario I imagined while I was evaluating your contributions.
Your personal edits are good and I thank you for making them. I will assume you will re-enter your financial updates to Facebook and Apple articles and I will leave them be. I hope I didn't discourage you from editing Wikipedia in the future. Best Regards, Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 01:38, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much, if anything I'm encouraged by this conversationThomasMikael (talk) 01:41, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Unfair dispute on Category pages for deletion[edit]

Hey there, Darrell. You seem like a decent guy. Right now, I feel like I'm getting ganged up on, and subjected to totally irrational persecution in a category inclusion dispute that I personally consider important. Any chance you could help out by supporting me here, or at least joining the conversation as a neutral arbitrator? Here's the page where the dispute is going down. I understand if you don't want to join, but I just thought I'd ask. Don't have many contacts among fellow Wikipedia editors, so I'm looking for an impartial voice wherever I can find one. Thanks man!ThomasMikael (talk) 19:56, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Thanks for all of your work! ThomasMikael (talk) 19:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501[edit]

No worries. It's happened to me, too - Firefox has deleted about half of an article while I've been working on it, just as I hit "save". (For what it's worth, the "hijacking" claim has already been removed as well.) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:03, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy to be of help. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Apple Pie[edit]

Hi Darrell, I teach Intro to Educational Technology Applications for Brandman University and use the edit on the apple pie page to show students how a wiki works. I am not attempting to be disruptive or malicious. I simply want my students (future teachers) to understand how Wikipedia works. Main1301 (talk) 03:23, 3 April 2015 (UTC)Sally Adams (main1301)

Nonetheless, what you are doing is vandalism. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 03:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)