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Edit request

Hello Drm310

Can you please edit the name of the "CloudBerry Backup" page to "MSP360 Backup"? Can't request there on the page Talk section

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by DougHazelman (talk • contribs) 16:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@DougHazelman: Actually you can request an edit, and you did. You just forgot to put a new {{request edit}} before your statement, and you forgot to sign your post (here as well). It's now in the edit request queue. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:56, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Request for reviewing a draft

Hello, Drm310!

Thank you for your advice regarding my Talk page and draft article.

I created the article anew in my Sandbox - can you please review it whenever possible?

You can find it here - User:Alexander Gabrovsky/sandbox/Pressrelations

Thank you!

Alexander Gabrovsky (talk) 11:49, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

@Alexander Gabrovsky: Before I do that, you need to make the proper disclosure on your userpage, per Wikipedia's paid editing disclosure policy. You appear to be an employee of the company you are writing about, so your current declaration is insufficient. Please use the {{paid}} template to show the extent of your relationship with this company. Thank you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:12, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
@Drm310: I added a disclosure to my userpage using the {{paid}} template. Please let me know if I should take any additional action. Thank you. Alexander Gabrovsky (talk) 14:47, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
@Alexander Gabrovsky: Thank you - I removed the other COI box as it's unnecessary. Time permitting, I will review your sandbox article in the next day or two and give you my feedback. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:01, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Corporate Web Services, Inc.

Hello Drm310,

I have updated my information with the proper disclosure, however, now I am unable to view the draft of Corporate Web Services, Inc. which I just created through Articles for Creation and submitted for review. Can you assist me in recovering the draft?

Thank you

Logan Paul Johnson (talk) 17:40, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

I was able to view Draft:Corporate Web Services, Inc. without any problems. I don't know if you're editing with a desktop computer or mobile device - try clearing your cache. If that doesn't work, try the Wikipedia:Help desk.
I should caution you about some of your content, though. Because Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wants to say about itself (see WP:NOTPROMO), we only consider the coverage from sources that are deemed both reliable and independent of the subject. Your company's own website is a primary source, so the only things it could be used for as a source are basic facts and figures (e.g. number of employees, key personnel, annual revenue, etc.) Beyond that, it would not be allowed. Any company-authored materials like press releases (PRWeb is a particularly odious offender) or social media are disqualified outright. You must demonstrate that this company has met Wikipedia's definition of a notable company by showing that it has already received in-depth coverage from multiple reliable, independent sources who chose to write about it without any inducement.
You will also have to make another disclosure of your paid status regarding this company since they are your employer. Just copy the existing one and change it - I had to remove the nowiki tags to make it display properly. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Drm310 I received your message- thank you!

I will have the information looked at and better labeled with more information? I tried to have all sources labeled. I guess that it is limited on content from sources and written in. I do not wish the page to come off as a ad or personal page. What do you suggest that needs to be added or removed? Thank you for your help. - Amena Kay Thornton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amenakay (talk • contribs)

@Amenakay: Unfortunately your content has been deleted, so I cannot comment on specifics. I will talk about a few things in a general sense.
Your userpage (User:Amenakay) is a special page that allows you to write a small amount about yourself and your interests as they relate to editing Wikipedia. While a lot of freedom is allowed in personalizing your userpage, it is not:
The user page guidelines have additional information on what is and what is not considered acceptable content.
For a main space encyclopedia article about you to be accepted, you must demonstrate that you are notable person. This means showing that you have already received significant coverage in sources that are both reliable and independent. Examples of sources that are acceptable include mainstream academic publishers, mainstream journalism organizations, newspapers and magazines from reputable publishers. Examples of unacceptable sources include sources you or PR representatives have authored (official website, blogs, social media), press releases and interviews.
As mentioned before on your talk page, autobiographies are strongly discouraged, due to the inherent difficulty in writing about yourself from the required neutral point of view (purely factual and dispassionate writing), relying on only the information from third-party sources and avoiding any unpublished personal knowledge or experiences. Content that is deemed to be overly biased or blatantly self-promotional will not be accepted.
Please realize as well that a Wikipedia article about you shouldn't be something you aspire to. The neutral point of view policy will ensure that both positive and negative information about you will be given equal consideration as long as it's properly sourced and written with a proper balance. You also won't have any right of ownership or control of the content, even content you contribute. Anyone can edit an article at any time, and its content can change substantially over time.
I'm sorry if this all sounds discouraging, but as Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines state: "As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia's mission is to provide the public with articles that summarize accepted knowledge, written neutrally and sourced reliably. Readers expect to find neutral articles written independently of their subject, not corporate or personal webpages, or platforms for advertising and self-promotion. Articles should contain only material that complies with Wikipedia's content policies and best practices, and Wikipedians must place the interests of the encyclopedia and its readers above personal concerns." --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:30, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Juma Khan Meerwani Baloch

Hello, Drm310. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Juma Khan Meerwani Baloch".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Lapablo (talk) 16:20, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Nexus Music Festival

Hello, @Drm310.

I'm writing to your talk page due to the fact that you marked my draft as potentially advertising and I escalated it to have the speedy deletion removed. I have removed all the "advertising" or "promotion" parts of the post. Could you take a further look at it and let me know what parts you feel are promoting the event in anyway, shape or form

Draft:Nexus_Music_Festival

--73.144.80.70 (talk) 21:00, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@73.144.80.70: You must understand that Wikipedia does not include topics just because they exist. Wikipedia has the concept of notability - a topic must have already gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time, and are not outside the scope of Wikipedia. We consider evidence from reliable and independent sources to gauge this attention. Wikipedia:Notability (events) has more refined criteria specific to events.
Wikipedia has no interest in what an organization wants to say about itself or its activities. We only care if enough third-party sources who have no vested interest in the organization chose to write about it in-depth. The fact that the sources in your draft were almost entirely written by the organization itself is not only a sign that this event is not notable, but it is also a typical sign of an organization wanting to use Wikipedia as a means to publicize its event. Please also note that self-published sources - like social media, blogs, message boards and press releases - are not considered valid sources and won't count toward establishing notability. Only sources with established reputations for fact-checking and editorial oversight are considered, such as mainstream news and academic bodies, as well as reputable newpaper, magazine and book publishers.
If you are in any way connected to this event or its organizing body, then you must review and comply with Wikipedia's conflict of interest rules - and mandatory paid editing disclosure policy if you are paid to represent them. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:24, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

I was given permisson

Hi, I noticed that you removed my edits from the KBA Wiki, I wanted to let you know I was given permission to keep the edits up for a week then delete them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan Varnfield (talk • contribs) 18:13, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@Ryan Varnfield: I'm not sure who gave you permission to make these edits, but they did not conform to Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines, so they can be removed at any time for that reason. If you mean that the school gave you permission, be aware that at no point does the school have any right of ownership or control over the content of its article. Article content is arrived at by following Wikipedia policies and by consensus. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
@Drm310: Is it ok if i keep it up for a week with only our names

I was given permisson

Hi, I just want to keep my edits up for a week with my friends and my name, is this okayy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan Varnfield (talk • contribs) 18:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@Ryan Varnfield: That's not how Wikipedia works. LanHikari64 (talk) 18:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
@Ryan Varnfield: No, this is not a social media site where you get to write about yourself. We are trying to write an encyclopedia here, so all content must be cited to reliable sources. Please be aware that Wikipedia is a widely used reference tool; our readers are looking for serious articles, so we have to take what we do here seriously. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Expanding article on Jonah Jones (sculptor)

Hello Drm310,

Jonah Jones was a figure of sufficient importance in Welsh, and indeed British, late-twentieth-century culture and education to merit an article on Wikipedia. He was not, though, important enough to motivate a range of scholarly publications, academic articles etc that can be cited as corrobating sources. The task of recording his life fell to a member of his family, as frequently occurs with public figures who are not considered, for whatever reason, to belong in the very first rank.

In 2008 the University of Wales Press's Seren Books imprint commissioned his second son, Peter Jones, to write a biography. Peter was well qualified for the task: he was a historian and former BBC journalist with the BBC Monitoring Service in Reading, from where he was seconded for three years to the UK Foreign Office, who in his early twenties worked for six years at Jonah Jones's studio where he was taught to engrave letters on slate to a high standard of excellence.

Peter Jones worked from many sources, all of which were cited over three pages at the end of the biography (Jonah Jones: An Artist's Life, 2011, ISBN 978-1-85411-556-0). He also drew extensively on private papers and letters and on archives held at the BBC, the Oxford Bodleian Library, the London Metropolitan Archives, the National Archives at Kew, the Tate Gallery in London, the Welsh Arts Council, the minutes of the Academic Council of the Dublin National College of Art and Design, the record of parliamentary questions in the Irish Dail Eireann, and the digital archives of The Irish Times newspaper.

The biography, in other words, was a thoroughgoing exercise in historical scholarship, not some hyped-up job designed to pour glory on its subject. If the manuscript had not passed this elementary test it would never have been accepted for publication. And, of course, the manuscript passed through all the usual editorial processes employed by any serious book publisher.

However, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, the central problem seems to be the lack of sufficient secondary sources to corrobate all the facts presented in the expanded article. If secondary sources do not exist - because, as I said at the beginning, other writers have not written much about Jonah Jones - then, according to your editors, all our efforts to expand the article to provide a fuller FACTUAL picture are doomed. You say you cannot accept the facts we have added because we (probably) cannot cite third-party corroboration for each added fact.

I say "we (probably) cannot" because, knowing Peter, I would not be altogether surprised if he dug up this and that from heaven knows where to cite as corrobation. He might be able to do so - he is, after all, a historian and a researcher, and disinterring well-hidden sources is what he does. He may therefore choose to rise to the challenge of proving to Wikipedia that every bit of his research was authentically truthful and that he was not a lying huckster.

For my part, I am so exhausted and disillusioned by the whole self-defeating pointlessness of all this that, together with my wife, I have decided to cancel my monthly financial support for Wikipedia. We have supported Wikipedia financially for many years because we believe it is one of the bulwarks of human civilisation and possibly the very best thing to have emerged from the internet. But after this despair-inducing experience, we turn away in sorrow. Good luck to you all.

Davidtownsendjones (talk) 17:23, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

@Davidtownsendjones: KylieTastic has posted a thoughtful response on their talk page and there's not much more I can add to it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:02, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Problem with Editing my Username

Hi there Thanks for the info you already got me about autobiography. I would like to change my username, I typed it like rEzA rOzim and it appears like this REzA rOzim, ugly. I just want to edit what I typed into a Normal kind of typing but the section is off on my preferences and it's not clickable. Thanks in advance. Reza Rozim — Preceding unsigned comment added by REzA rOzim (talk • contribs) 19:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

@REzA rOzim: You can request a change of username here: Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:47, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

My Article-Nodal Exchange being deleted

Hi Drm310, I am new to editing. I am not being paid to write the article for Nodal Exchange, I will try to add more citations. This is my first article and I am lost. Do you recommend that I delete it and start over? I spent a lot of time figuring out how to write it properly. There are a lot of rules to follow and I guess I missed some, I am not sure what the next step is. Thank you in advance for your help. (talk) 16:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Eva Bignoli

@Eva Bignoli: There is off-wiki evidence to suggest that you are professionally connected to this company. If true, then you are bound by Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure policy to disclose this information. The conflict of interest guidelines would also apply.
Please note that not all companies get to have article on Wikipedia. Mere existence isn't enough - a company must be considered notable, by Wikipedia's definition. This means that it must have gathered significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the company, and have no vested interest in it.
This disqualifies any sources that contain company-authored material: press releases, social media, blogs and other self-published sources will not be accepted. Sources must have an established reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight. This generally means mainstream academia and journalism, reputable book and magazine publishers. Trade publications may be acceptable. Primary sources like the company's own website may be used for basic facts and figures (e.g. dates of establishment, number of employees, annual revenue, etc.) but not interpretations of those facts.
If enough reliable sources are available and the company is considered notable enough for inclusion, please be aware that the company nor its representative will have any right of ownership or editorial control over the article. Wikipedia is a collaborative project, meaning anyone can edit any article at any time. Article content can and does change, sometimes substantially over time. Except for obvious vandalism or libel, disagreements over content must be raised on the article talk page and resolved through a process of discussion and compromise. Consensus is Wikipedia's fundamental editorial model.
Sorry for quoting so many rules, but I will end with some text from conflict of interest guidelines entitled the "Purpose of Wikipedia":

As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia's mission is to provide the public with articles that summarize accepted knowledge, written neutrally and sourced reliably. Readers expect to find neutral articles written independently of their subject, not corporate or personal webpages, or platforms for advertising and self-promotion. Articles should contain only material that complies with Wikipedia's content policies and best practices, and Wikipedians must place the interests of the encyclopedia and its readers above personal concerns.

--Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:10, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
@Drm310: Hi Drm310,
What do you suggest I do next then? Are you saying I need to fill out the paid editing disclosure? and then try to cite from other sources not published by the company? I would really appreciate any help, as I want to have it on wikipedia but also follow all the rules.
Thank you,
Eva
Eva Bignoli
@Eva Bignoli: Well, you've done the right thing by adding the {{paid}} template to your userpage, so thanks for that.
Please leave the Help:Nodal Exchange alone and wait for it to be deleted, or for an admin to move it back to the Draft space. The Help space is meant for instructional Wikipedia help pages, not for users to move their content into to get help.
Third, try the draft space again to make an article. You will have to try writing it as if you knew nothing about Nodal Exchange, and only use published information from third-party sources not affiliated with the company. The tone of your writing must also be neutral; a plainly factual, dispassionate restating of the facts from the perspective of a disinterested third party.
Successfully writing original articles on Wikipedia is one of the most difficult tasks for new editors to do, so it might take longer than you anticipate. The help desk and Teahouse are two places where you can seek help - just don't cross-post the same questions to both places, as that will annoy people by fragmenting the discussion. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:44, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the warm welcome!

Hi Drm310, thank you for the warm welcome! I already did some editing and it's really a nice new and learning experience. Though I have one question about something I see in my Contributions:

15:28, 1 April 2020 diff hist +487‎ N User:Christophemoons ‎ created my user page current Tags: Visual edit Possible self promotion in userspace "possible self promotion in userspace" -> what do you suggest I do? I do not have the intention to set up a business here or promote myself...

Thank you for your feedback! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christophemoons (talk • contribs) 17:28, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@Christophemoons: Hi again. Wikipedia has a variety of scripts and automated programs (called "bots") that continually scan for certain words and phrases that are suggestive of promotional language. They're not perfect of course, and it's difficult for them to know context. Probably some of the content on your userpage tripped an alert - I don't know exactly which ones, as I am not an administrator and lack the privileges to see how these things work.
As long as you continue to be transparent about your affiliation with your employer, as you have done, you should be fine. I would also advise that if you're editing the article of a client, please make note of it on the article's talk page with the {{connected contributor (paid)}} template. For substantial content changes that might be challenged, I would advise you not to edit the article directly, but instead use the {{request edit}} template on the article talk page with your suggested changes.
One last minor thing. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:
  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.
This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.
Best of luck and happy editing. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of "Institute of Astrophysics - FORTH" page

Dear Drm310, thanks for your message. I see that the entry on the "Institute of Astrophysics - FORTH" has been deleted, as well as the associated reply I had included in the talk page of the entry trying to address the two issues raised. I was just wondering, because it was not clear from your message. Did you read this reply? Thanks for your time Vcharmandaris (talk) 08:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

hey heres the issue

so not only am i using a video as reference but also other peoples wikipedia pages to guide me , so here are the 2 references

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_k_VbCDm2Y

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceleak

i don't know what i'm doing wrong but as a customer, it would be nice to have the company help me instead of consistently telling me im using it as a promotion platform

i'm not, i took out all the things that mentioned numbers and achievements so now its just a bio and discography with good references, as most music artists have on wikipedia such as the one i just sent you i think i did a decent job as a young adult for my first time :)

help please as i need a wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by JayHonest (talk • contribs) 20:07, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@JayHonest: The YouTube video you linked to is a perfectly fine video to learn all the technical aspects of making an article. Our problem is with the content you're putting in. Let's clear a few things up (links to other pages are in blue):
  1. Wikipedia is not a commercial website run for profit. It is a free online encyclopedia created and maintained as an open collaboration project by a community of volunteer editors. It is not a "company" and its users are not "customers".
  2. Wikipedia has articles about many subjects, but not about everything. A subject must be notable to be included. We don't have articles on subjects just because they exist.
  3. A notable subject is a topic that is proven to be of interest to the world at large and over a period of time. Notability is proven by providing references to multiple reliable sources that have no association with the subject.
  4. Musicians have more refined notability criteria, and a list of acceptable sources to judge notability is here.
  5. Using another article as an example isn't the best idea, because it might be equally unsuitable and worthy of deletion. I am going to review the Iceleak article because at first glance, I don't think it should exist either.
  6. Up-and-coming artists are not allowed to have articles because they have not yet achieved the required level of notability. Any article created to "tell the world:" about them will be deleted as promotional. We don't have articles for something or someone to gain notability, we have articles about people or things that are already notable.
  7. No one "needs" a Wikipedia article, because Wikipedia not about you. We certainly don't allow articles about a person just because they want one. In fact, an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.
  8. Even if you are notable enough to merit an article, you should never write about yourself. A person is not capable of writing about themselves with the required objectivity, and it is difficult for them to rely only on third-party sources and exclude all unpublished personal knowledge or experience.
  9. You were writing on your user page, which is not the same as an article. A user page is meant for you to write a small amount about yourself as it relates to your work and goals using Wikipedia. It is not an article, personal website or social media page.
So, my advice to you is:
  • Stop wanting to have a Wikipedia article about yourself. You will not be the one to judge whether or not you are deserving of one, and you should not be the one to write it even if you are deemed notable enough to be included.
  • Thoroughly read and understand the user page guidelines if you want to make a brief bio of yourself and describe your goals as a Wikipedia user.
  • Pick some other topic to write about other than yourself, and use the links in the helpful welcome message at the top of your talk page to learn how to do that.
  • Engage the community of editor at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, who are familiar with helping new editors like yourself.
  • And finally, if you really have no interest about writing about anything other than yourself, try an alternative outlet where this kind of writing is allowed.
--Drm310 🍁 (talk) 00:31, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

you sound extremely biased, by the way i went to college for music theory and business and our teachers whom we pay, told us this is the way to do it if you are serious im not just anyone, and for you to assume that is quite ignorant i have 2m streams online, i am signed with 2 labels and notable ones at that ive been featured on medium, buzzfeed twice, and 9 other blogs, clearly proving that i am notable and desired to have articles about i wasnt trying to use it to promote myself i was trying to use it as i am a notable person im one of the highest payed and selling artists in my city and im in the capital of canada— Preceding unsigned comment added by JayHonest (talk • contribs)

Hammer brandished (but not yet thrown) in general direction of OP's talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:44, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Michael Bronstein

Mmbronstein (talk) 14:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC) Dear Drm310, I am new to editing Wikipedia and have edited the page myself. The page does not promote anything whatsoever besides citing biographic facts. All the data provided is accompanied with proof links.

@Mmbronstein: Creating an article about yourself is inadvisable, even for someone who means well. The independence of an article from its subject is what gives confidence to a reader that the subject is notable and the article is neutral, verifiable and free of original research.
Are you Michael Bronstein himself or are you someone else representing his interests? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 02:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Drm310

Dear Daryl,

Thank you for your explanations and guidelines. I will check them before my next steps.

Have a nice day ahead.

Sincerely, Alexa — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexaWoodcock (talk • contribs)

@AlexaWoodcock: I am somewhat confused as to why you created an article and draft with the {{UDP}} tag already in it. Do you have some sort of personal or professional relationship with Andrii Seleznov? If so, then it is cruicial that you understand Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines, and also the paid editing disclosure policy if applicable. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 02:33, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
@Drm310: Thanks for your comment, Daryl. Yes, I know Andrii Seleznov personally but I have not got any payment for adding an article about him. It is mainly to inspire him to develop technological stuff. He has already created a mobile application that helped 10,000 plant scientists to measure plant leaf area. Hence, I appreciate his community contribution and decided to make this short page about him. -- AlexaWoodcock (talk) 13:38, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
@AlexaWoodcock: Thank you for clarifying that. I advise that you place the {{UserboxCOI}} template on your userpage (User:AlexaWoodcock) so that other editors are aware of this fact. I would also suggest you review Wikipedia's notability criteria, in particular the ones specifically for living persons and also companies and organizations. Only subjects that meet these criteria will be considered worthy of inclusion. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

how can I create a company page

could you please tell me how to create a company page just like all the others have it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srikanthlavudia (talk • contribs) 23:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC) Srikanthlavudia (talk) 23:15, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Srikanthlavudia: Let us make an important distinction first. Companies do not have pages on Wikipedia - there are articles about companies on Wikipedia. Companies must meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for companies before they are considered worthy of inclusion. This means that the company must have already been the subject of significant writings from multiple reliable sources that are not affiliated with the company.
Examples of sources that are considered reliable are mainstream news and academic sources, magazines and books from reputable publishers. Company-authored materials such as press releases, social media and interviews with company personnel are not reliable. The company's own website can be used to provide basic facts and figures, but by itself is not sufficient to establish notability.
Even if this condition is met, you should not write about the company that employs you. Doing so is a conflict of interest and is highly problematic. You would need to disclose your employment per Wikipedia's mandatory and non-negotiable paid editing disclosure policy. If your company is truly notable, then someone else who has no personal or professional involvement with it will write about it eventually.
You must also accept that Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wishes to say about itself or how it wants to be portrayed, since Wikipedia is not to be used for promotion, publicity or advertising. Your company would have no right of ownership or control over the article's contents, and other editors acting in good faith can make changes to the content at any time. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 23:25, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Ha! Thank you!

Ha! I blocked Naijabass and deleted their page in the same minute that you reported the name at WP:UAA. I keep (childishly) trying to do that, but don't have many successes. Thank you! Bishonen | tålk 15:34, 4 May 2020 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Haha, you're welcome. I imagine that keeping up with speedy deletions is like a never-ending game of Whac-A-Mole! --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Comment from user Marchzoner

Hello, I want to know the requirements for writing a biography,, because all the write-ups I've been doing here are all being deleted Thank you for your cooperation Marchzoner (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Marchzoner: I would first be aware that writing new, original articles is one of the hardest tasks on Wikipedia for a new editor. You should use the Wikipedia:Tutorial and review Wikipedia:Your first article to help your chances of a successful outcome.
Wikipedia has the concept of notability - only topics that are of significant interest to the world at large and over a period of time will be included. For articles about people, Wikipedia:Notability (people) describes the criteria for a person. If this person is currently alive, then the policy of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons also applies.
It's also important that if you have a personal or professional relationship to the person you're writing about, you should disclose it per Wikipedia's rules on conflict of interest. In particular, if you are being paid to write about them on Wikipedia (directly or indirectly), then Wikipedia's mandatory policy on paid editing disclosure applies. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 23:06, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Puzzled about Sandbagging

So, on User talk:Sandbagging, you removed "all inappropriate content for talk page". But this blocked user was in the process of following another admin's instructions per Template:2nd chance. They seemed to be making an honest try, though they didn't know better than to mostly cut-and-paste from poor sources; so I suggested they keep working on it. Am I missing something here? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 19:32, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

@Jpgordon: I often remove non-talk/article content from user talk pages as inappropriate use. But in this case, I didn't fully read through 331dot's unblock conditions for this user, which mentioned editing content on the user's talk page. So, I apologize; I was trigger-happy and admit my mistake. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Catherine Eaton Skinner

Hello Drm310 - I apologize if I did not use the talk page correctly. I can't seem to figure out where an article that I wrote on "Catherine Eaton Skinner" went. I moved it from the Sandbox and I'm being told it exists - yet it does not show up as a Wikipedia entry when I do a general online search for Catherine Eaton Skinner. I am flummoxed, so I thought I was supposed to enter it again in the talk page. Again, apologies. What am I missing in finding the article? Thank you for your time.

Spfsfnm (talk) 19:50, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

@Spfsfnm: Catherine Eaton Skinner indeed exists as a Wikipedia article (albeit with some issues, by the looks of it). However, the time it takes new articles to be indexed by search engines is out of our control. You can search the Wikipedia:Help desk for some answers by others who might be more experienced with such questions. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:52, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Deleting a article

Hey bro sorry for anything but thanks for deleting Can you help create a page for me please It’s about me kendrick Martinez I need a Wikipedia Page about me And I have articles about me as well I would love your help please I really trying to grind so hard and prove myself to the world 🌎 Kendrickmartinez (talk) 20:37, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Kendrickmartinez: Sorry, but Wikipedia is not a platform for self-serving interests, such as telling the world about yourself or showing yourself as an up-and-coming person. We only have articles about people and things that are already notable, as described by Wikipedia's definition of notability. You are not an objective judge of your own notability; that's why we don't like people to write about themselves.
You can write a little bit about yourself on your userpage - which is not the same thing as an article - but it has to be about your interests and goals as they relate to editing Wikipedia. The userpage guidelines have more detailed info about what is and isn't allowed. Remember that we are trying to build an encyclopedia here, so the integrity of project takes priority over any and all personal concerns. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Ok I’ll try my hardest to impact the world more and hopefully Wikipedia notices me and writes about me like yahoo medium and other sources Kendrickmartinez (talk) 21:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

@Kendrickmartinez: I wish you good luck with that goal. If and when you become a notable person, then someone will probably write about you, and an article about you will be welcomed. All the best. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:24, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Merci pour cet accueil

Bonjour Daryl,

Merci pour votre accueil et votre message d'hier ! Ca m'a permis de me mettre à jour sur quelques éléments / façons de faire que je ne connaissais pas encore :-)

J'ai deux interrogations. En ce moment j'essaie de publier la traduction en anglais de cet article du Wikipedia français. Ce que j'ai rédigé pour la traduction se trouve dans le forum de relecture, ici.

J'aurais aimé dans la version anglaise illustrer l'article avec le même logo que dans la version française. D'après ce que j'ai compris du droit d'image, j'ai le droit de le faire, mais je ne sais pas où uploader ce logo : car je ne pense pas avoir le droit de l'uploader sur Commons pour autant, comme je ne suis pas l'auteur de ce logo.

Ensuite, est-ce que la procédure de rédiger la traduction dans ma sandbox, puis dans le forum de relecture, est la bonne ?

I am writing in French as you seem to understand it, but it you prefer English I can write in English :)

TheSkimask (talk) 09:18, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@TheSkimask: Bonjour! Je vais réponder en français parce que je voudrais pratiquer. :-) Allons-y!
Votre brouillon est déjà dans la file d'attente pour être examiné. Concernant le logo... je ne suis pas sûr. J'ai lu les règles à WP:LOGO, et je crois que vous pouvez l'uploader sur Commons... peut-être?? Je vous recommande de laisser un message à WP: IMAGEHELP. Probablement, quelqu'un qui a plus d'expérience concernant les images et les droits d'auteur peut vous aider. Bonne chance! --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 00:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
@Drm310: Bonjour Daryl, merci pour le lien vers l'espace dédié aux copyright d'images !
A bientôt je l'espère, TheSkimask (talk) 09:53, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

IP address got blocked - Help!

Hi Drm310, I am new on Wikipedia. However, i have had an account earlier, but it was blocked from editing, stating the following reasons: “IP address is in a range that has been blocked on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis”. Please help me out and explain why would have Wikipedia done that to an account that had been following all the policies carefully throughout. Thanks! __FreshmanWiki (talk) 12:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@FreshmanWiki: Without knowing the IP address, I can't see what the block message said or who the blocking administrator is. Could you tell me what the IP is?
IP ranges can be blocked if there is persistent vandalism or sockpuppetry. The duration of the block may vary, depending on the scale of the problem. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:08, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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MAUVSA (Mid-Atlantic Union of Vietnamese Student Associations)

Hello Mr. Drm310,

I am sending you a user talk request to talk about the edits to the MAUVSA page. I am trying to make edits as one of their PR chairs, but saw you guys reverted back to previous edits. I have a lot of changes I would like to make. Please let me know how I can add things without any issues. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoelJohnBAlberto (talk • contribs) 03:11, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@NoelJohnBAlberto: There are several points to review, but first you must know that the article has been nominated for deletion. The nominator feels that this organization fails to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for organizations, and therefore is not worthy of inclusion. You may leave comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mid-Atlantic Union of Vietnamese Student Associations (2nd nomination) as to why you think it should be retained. However, keep these points in mind:
  1. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; its mission is to provide the public with articles about notable topics that summarize accepted knowledge, written from a neutral point of view and backed by citations to reliable and independent sources.
  2. Reliable sources are sources with an established reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight. Independent sources are sources that have no vested interest in the portrayal of the subject. Significant coverage in sources that are both reliable and independent are required for a topic to be considered notable enough for inclusion.
  3. An organization's own website is a primary source. It can be used to provide just basic facts and figures, but little else. Also, self-published sources like press releases, blogs or social media are considered unreliable because they have user-generated content and lack the aforementioned editorial oversight.
  4. Readers expect to find neutral articles written independently of their subject; not organizational or personal webpages, or platforms for advertising and self-promotion. Wikipedia has no interest in what an organization wants to say about itself or how it wishes to be portrayed. Also, the organization has no right of ownership or editorial control over the article's content.
  5. Persons with a personal or professional connection to the subject of an article should not edit those articles directly. Instead, they should request edits on the article's talk page. They should also disclose their connection to the subject; in fact it is mandatory if they are paid to edit Wikipedia as part of their duties. This applies not just to employees and paid representatives, but also interns, on-loan staff, and unpaid workers, including volunteers.
  6. Disputes over content should be discussed civilly on the article's talk page, where an attempt should be made to arrive at a consensus. If that fails to resolve the disagreement, Wikipedia's channels for dispute resolution should be followed.
Assuming the article is retained after the deletion discussion concludes, then I suggest you thoroughly review Wikipedia's plain and simple conflict of interest guide to learn the best practices for someone in your position. Thank you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 04:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Disclosure of affiliation; Resubmitted through articles for creation process

Thank you for letting me know about disclosing my affiliation with the employer on my user page. I have gone ahead and done so, and resubmitted the article through the articles for creation process. Thank you for the guidance. (User talk:Chou jessica) 18:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Disclosure of employment

Thank you for your guidance. I updated my profile according to your recommendations.  :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShevchukSS (talk • contribs) 15:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@ShevchukSS: Great, thanks for doing that. One other reminder: when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:
  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.
This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 18:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
@Drm310: Got you! Returned and signed my today's comment WikiProject Companies talk page. It worked! :) Thanks --ShevchukSS (talk) 19:42, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

User Page

Any suggested guides/tutorials on designing a user page? Seamus Decker (talk) 16:39, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Seamus Decker: You could reuse code from other users' userpages that strikes your fancy. There's also an inactive project called the Wikipedia:User page design center that you could get some ideas from as well. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 03:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Un-deletion of Articles for deletion/Fundera

Hello, you recently replied to my request for un-deletion of this article - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fundera

I made a page as a suggestion of a new page to use. I also moved the page to my personal sandbox per your question. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ClaySmithWiki/sandbox#Fundera

Under Wikipedias guidelines, if I use this template - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Paid and make every effort to disclose my affiliation with the company in all appropriate areas, it seems that the page is eligible for undeletion? Is this true?

I am not trying to break any rules or guidelines around Wikipedia usage and article creation. Any assistance here is greatly appreciated. ClaySmithWiki (talk) 14:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@ClaySmithWiki: First of all, please do not edit while logged out. Contributing about the same topic while logged in to your account some times, and logged out other times, is not allowed. It can give the impression that you are engaged in sockpuppetry, which is the illegimiate use of multiple accounts. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that this was unintentional. Your Wikipedia session can expire after a period of inactivity and you will be logged out automatically after sitting idle (time can vary). In the future, please check the upper right corner of your web browser (assuming you're on a desktop or laptop computer) and make sure you see your username. If you see "Not logged in", please log in again.
Now, on to your question. Definitely make use of the {{paid}} template on your userpage (User:ClaySmithWiki); also I would recommend placing the {{connected contributor (paid)}} template on the talk page of the article. Does that guarantee that the article you're writing will be accepted? Not necessarily, but your transparency will give the other editors confidence that you are acting in good faith, and working to further the interests of the encyclopedia instead of your employer. This will make other editors more willing to help you create an article that will be accepted.
I see that in the time I've been taking to write this response, you've already made some changes that I was going to recommend. I see that you've created the draft article Draft:Fundera and submitted it for review. An impartial third-party editor will review it at some point. The editor will either publish it if they feel it meets Wikipedia's standards, or send it back to you for further revisions. Just take note that draft articles can take a long time to be reviewed; there is no formal queuing system, and editors here are volunteers who work on what they can in their free time.
Hopefully these measures should make for a more positive experience for you as an editor, and a better outcome for your article. Good luck. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:11, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Help request

Help me S.Udhayakumar (talk) 15:20, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

@S.Udhayakumar: What do you need help with? You can also ask editors at the WP:Teahouse for help. It's a forum specifically designed for new users like you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:53, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Drm310.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangutdavid (talk • contribs)

@Dangutdavid: Hello, did you have a question? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:55, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

FYI

I saw you post a "your userpage doesn't conform to guidelines" message for AlisiaBranton. For future reference: that was a spambot using the "NTSAMR" pattern - usually a banal sentence or two of "introduction" followed by something like "my site: (very suspicious-looking link)". If you see more like that, don't bother with a warning, just report them straight to AIV as spam-only accounts with a comment like "ntsamr-pattern spambot," the folks patrolling AIV will know what to do with them. GeneralNotability (talk) 14:34, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks GeneralNotability. I kind of suspected those might be spammers, but I didn't know that there was a prescribed fast-track way to report them. I'll try that the next time I see one. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:13, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Clarification

Abdelmounimbfs (talk) 11:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC) Dear Dm 310

I hope you are doing great.

Please I have no financial stake in promoting a topic I am writing about. I am not compensated for my edits so I am not a paid editor. I have respected all the policies mentioned in the Wikimedia Terms of Use . I have used my own words while writing.

and I don't know why my article isn't accepted yet.

@Abdelmounimbfs: There is evidence outside of Wikipedia that you have some sort of relationship with this organization. You must clearly state what that is before making any further edits about it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:53, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Question about Paid Tag

hi Drm310, Please where should I add this {{paid|employer=ACME|userbox=yes|article=[[Example]]}} in my article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdelmounimbfs (talk • contribs)

@Abdelmounimbfs: The {{paid}} tag goes on your userpage (User:Abdelmounimbfs). On the talk page of the article, you use the {{connected contributor (paid)}} tag. If you need help with putting them there, let me know. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Explaination

let me explain to you my situation,

I am doing an non paid internship in a Company, and they have asked me to create a wikipedia page for the company.

So I dont Know if I am a paid editor or not.

if yes, I need to include this tag in the top of my article right?

.

Thank you so much! I tried to explain everything I wrote the article with my own words — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdelmounimbfs (talk • contribs)

@Abdelmounimbfs: Thank you for the explanation. First, I will refer you to this section of Wikipedia's policy: Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#Meaning of "employer, client, and affiliation". At the very bottom of the section, it states:

Interns, on-loan staff, and unpaid workers, including volunteers, are deemed to be employees. If they are directed or expected to edit Wikipedia as part of their tasks, they must make a paid-contribution disclosure.

So, as an unpaid intern, you are deemed to be a paid contributor because you have been directed to write about the company that employs you. Your internship is, itself, the compensation.
The correct code for your userpage is as follows: {{paid|employer=Waystocap}}
The code for the talk page of your draft article is this: {{Connected contributor (paid)|User1=Abdelmounimbfs |U1-employer=Waystocap |U1-otherlinks=Disclosure on userpage.}}
Again, if you need help, I will do this for you.
You should also pass this along to your superiors at the company:
  1. Wikipedia only accepts articles about companies that meet its notability criteria.
  2. A company is considered notable only if it has received significant coverage from sources that are both reliable and independent of the company.
  3. A reliable source is a source with an established reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight; for example, mainstream news organizations, academic press, books and magazines from reputable publishers.
  4. An independent source is one with no financial or other vested interest in the company. It must write about the company from a purely factual and neutral point of view.
  5. Self-published sources like social media, press releases, company-authored press kits and interview with company personnel are not considered acceptable sources.
  6. The company has no right of ownership or control over the content of the article, should it be accepted. Any Wikipedia editor acting in good faith can edit it at any time, and the company cannot insist that it remains at a version that it prefers. Both positive and negative information can be included, as long as it is reliably sourced, written neutrally and with proper balance. Disputes over content should be discussed on the article talk page.
Thank you for your cooperation. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 01:00, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Waystocap draft

Hey Drm310,

Thank you so much for all your help,

as discussed, I have disclosed the paid editor tag, and you ve confirmed it to me, but there is another user called @Theroadislong declined my article submission, because of WP:NCORP

this is his comment 

Comment: Nothing here suggests they pass WP:NCORP and Wikipedia cannot reference itself. Theroadislong (talk) 12:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)


What can I do! and please can you do it for me ?

Thank you so much, and sorry for the bothering — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdelmounimbfs (talk • contribs) 22:57, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Abdelmounimbfs: I will have a look at your sources in the next couple of days and reply back to you. In the meantime, please sign your posts when you leave comments on talk pages. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 12:53, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Plausible articles on User page

Hi Drm310, I have seen you around and thought you might be able to provide guidance. Sometimes I come across plausible articles (not spammy, etc.) on a new user's page, seemingly intended as a draft. What is the appropriate way to handle that? S0091 (talk) 17:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi S0091. There's no real prescribed method; it will depend on how competent and cooperative the user is. You could leave a message on their talk page explaining the purpose of a userpage (with a link to WP:USERPAGE), and suggest they put the content in their user sandbox, or use the WP:Article wizard to create a draft. If they still continue to edit their userpage as an article draft, you could take it upon yourself to copy the content to their sandbox and blank the userpage, stating WP:FAKEARTICLE as your justification. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 05:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
NAA Harendranath Palai (talk) 19:47, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

About Your Comment on Article of a brand!

@Drm310 Thank you for reviewing article and for your comment on a brand article. As per your comment,

Text of uw-paid1

"Hello Sandip.whitelion. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to User:Sandip.whitelion/sandbox/Whitelion Systems PVT. LTD., gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Sandip.whitelion. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: The template Tlc is being considered for merging.. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:42, 10 August 2020 (UTC)"

Well, i wanted to draw your attention towards my goal for writing this article. I am neither being paid directly nor indirectly for this article. I wrote this article just because this brand is getting a very big exposure in short time, i am still collecting financial data and i've already gathered some. I'll edit and update it soon. Thanks Sandip.whitelion (talk) 06:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

@Sandip.whitelion: There is evidence outside of Wikipedia that you have an affiliation with this company, though I cannot state it publicly here, per WP:OUTING. Disclosing professional connections to topics you are writing about is not optional. Writing about a topic that you have a personal or professional affiliation to is a conflict of interest, and can be viewed as an attempt to use Wikipedia for promotion or publicity.
Also, Wikipedia does not speculate on what topics might become notable in the future. This company must already be notable to be considered for inclusion. Possible future fame has no effect on present notability. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
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