User talk:Falcorian/Archives/2006

Berkeley article

Hey! Thanks for the input on the Tien Center graphic. Help me out here, they want to take all the pics I put up down! I think they a good addition to the article. ckoala84 11:18 pm 1/1/06

Can you link me to the ones in question? --Falcorian | Talk 08:24, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Pacific Ten Conference Template

Hey, I just would like you to explain why the PAC-10 logo on the Template:Pacific Ten Conference page is a violation of Wiki fair use, and thus why it was removed. Your time is appreciated. Thanks! AZCactus1 23:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I can answer for him! :D From Wikipedia:Fair Use#Fair Use Criteria:

Fair use images should only be used in the article namespace. They should never be used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes) or on user pages.

Hope that helps. --Arabani 00:36, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I will definitely keep that in mind. Many thanks! AZCactus1 02:22, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Arab got that. --Falcorian | Talk 09:32, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Bowles Hall

I would assume that the tag for the crest would definitely be good. As for the picture of Bowles Hall itself, I am not sure exactly where it is from, but it was taken from the 1930s and a copy of the picture had been in the Bowles Hall lounge for some time (until last year). I can go ahead and find out more information if you would like. Boneheadmx 23:18, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll do whatever I can to help out with the article. If you need any help, I have a Bowles Hall songbook with a compilation of Bowles Hall traditional songs as well as papers on the Landmark status of the building, which covers the architecture in greater detail. Boneheadmx 23:27, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

User boxes

Stop adding them to my user page when I'm away! /cry And get lvl 61 alrdy, u nub, kthxbye. =P --Arabani 07:41, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Go back to Berkeley then! (and no!) :p --Falcorian | Talk 07:43, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Bah, you're going to have to wait until Monday! Anyway, home is annoying me to death. Our cable modem started dying earlier this week and would randomly drop its connection for hours on end. We finally got Cox today to confirm that the cable modem was indeed dying and picked up a shiny new Linksys modem. And isn't it past your curfew? :D --Arabani 07:48, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for help on my user page

What a weird surprise to find that I had improperly formatted a link on my own page. Nice of you to fix it for me. Best of luck! Chris the speller 15:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

My user page

Thanks for updating the vandal count on my userpage. -Greg Asche (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

No problem, wish I didn't have to though. ;) --Falcorian | Talk 20:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

And I wish I didn't have to correct your spelling, Falcorian. =P --Arabani (Talk ∞ Contribs) 20:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

And I wish you had class now... --Falcorian | Talk 20:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Yo

Doug, that you? 24.9.10.235 04:18, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Nope, not Doug. ;) --Falcorian ^(talk) 05:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

What is this template?

Hi, what is this {{general relativity}} template? TIA ---CH 23:38, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

It's the navigation bar on the sides of all the general relativity articles. --Falcorian ^(talk) 23:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

UC Berkeley template

Thanks for the help. Unfortunately, I haven't the slightest idea on how to make subtemplates. I put a message on the UC Berkeley talk page asking for help with that and for more suggestions. Arcimpulse 01:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Go game playing time

Why did you change the upper bound from 180 to 100 minutes? I've played games that lasted more than two hours, haven't you? To avoid scaring away potential players?  :-) Davipo 18:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

2 days late

Thanks for the comments you left a couple of days ago about the Bullfighting article, and well done with your recent edits - the article looks a lot better now! -- ChrisO 00:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

"Heidieh"

I figured it was some sort of info on someone's part...I had just noticed that "Heidieh" is a palindrome, and was probably inserted on many Croce articles as a where is she, Jim's daughter. Heidieh keeps herself well hid Mike H. That's hot 11:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Featured Picture

A picture you uploaded, Image:Carrots of many colors.jpg, has just become a Featured Picture! Congratulations, and thank for uploading it for us. Raven4x4x 08:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, that was unexpected! Thanks for telling me! :D --Falcorian ^(talk) 16:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Moving pages

Hi. When moving pages (as you did with Gideon Ravenor and Ciaphas Cain), please do not do this by copy-and-pasting the text from one article to the other, as this loses the edit history (along with attributions of who wrote what; maintaining these is a GFDL requirement). The correct way is to use the "move" tab at the top of every page. I've tagged the pages to see if they can be fixed up. Cheers --Pak21 08:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I know, I should have requested move on at least one of them, but didn't feel like it. --Falcorian ^(talk) 17:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Your given warning

This is a university network, hence, we can't know who altered the text you mention in the message, since every user is funneled through the same IP address. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.11.59.24 (talk • contribs)

Hmm, alright. I think theres a template around for that too... --Falcorian ^(talk) 19:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Supernova Cosmology Project

Thanks for creating the article. I'll try to get around to expanding it, in the same sense that I was getting around to creating it in the first place. :-P -- SCZenz 18:38, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

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Colonel Marksman here

Say, you haven't contributed to anything in a bit of awhile, and we haven't conflicted/agreed/spoken/anything with one another (although the second-to-last of these is personally prefered :D).

I've been acting like a chicken with his head cut off and did a lot of interesting spurring up here and there (including suggestions to the Warhammer Wikipedians) and etc. I'm somewhat new, but learning.

Anyway, enough of talk. The point is that I've contributed a lot to Warhammer 40,000 here, and you haven't said anything to me yet. It also appears that my proposed guidelines are being scorned. That was a lot of effort and work, with open arms to other editors to change up where needed, but nothing's changed. Thanks. Colonel Marksman 23:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I must admit, I've gone into a inactive period of wiki-life, just cleaning up a few things I run into here and there. ;) Maybe once Summer rolls around I'll jump back in. But I'll certainly take a look at your guidelines! --Falcorian ^(talk) 23:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Dianetics

Thanks for your "ref" work on Dianetics. Converting old citations to proper refs and templates is tedious but valuable. --Davidstrauss 06:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Glad to be of service. --Falcorian ^(talk) 07:33, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Ministry of Truth

Nice job keeping Ministry of Truth's edits in line. You may however want to take a look at the Hamachi page and the Talk:Hamachi page. This user has taken a heavy hand to editing this VPN application's page. Keep up the good work! --192.33.224.240 16:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I actually enjoyed myself quite a bit while debating with Falcorian about our did-he-drop-out-or-not friend Steve Gibson and if all WikiPedians were as friendly and intellectually honest as he demonstrated to be over there, WP would be a better place.

And even though duking it out with Hamachi head developer Alex Pankratow is a lengthy process, we are making good progress now. --Ministry of Truth 01:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Yep, we could really use an extra pair of eyes and some help over at Talk:Hamachi.

Alex Pankratov 06:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Timeless Classics

Falcorian, is it just me or is User:Bostonboy3's Category:Timeless Classics similiar to User:Chicagoboy3's Category:Killers From History nonsense? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not familiar with Killers from History, but I have noticed that Bostonboy has created multiple categories, all of which are criminal related and nonsensical. I think it's a vandle attempt as well, as he replaced the categories some articles already had with these. --Falcorian ^(talk) 20:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

That's what I've seen with Chicagoboy3 (the names seems similar as well), and since he's now putting articles into a new category, Category:Outlaws And Theives, for which I am going to block him. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing the cowbell box! -- PKtm 22:31, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Glad I could help. --Falcorian ^(talk) 01:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Go category

Comments made by your edit: [a]bstract strategy games is a subcat of boardgames

I wonder if we should add the main category, in addition to sub-category. A few checks don't get me anywhere. Different pages do differently.

Personally I think it's beneficial to add the article to the main category too since someone who search for board games may not notice abstract strategy games. It may miss that article in this regard. After all, it's no hurt to provide multiple ways to access to the same article. Some sorting/category trees do the same, placing the same link/resource in different possible categories. --User:Wai Wai

When I reverted, I thought that was policy. I have since checked and it's not only a guideline, but also says "There are many cases where articles should be in both". So, basicly, having checked, and thought about it a little, I now agree that it probably should go in both places based on "When an article is put into a subcategory based on an attribute that is not the first thing most people would think of to categorise it, it should be left in the parent category as well." from Wikipedia:Categorization/Categories and subcategories. --Falcorian ^(talk) 16:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

As I've explained to User:Wai Wai, please follow the guidelines, and the work of countless editors before you. "In straightforward cases an article should not be in both a category and its subcategory" and this is as straightforward as it gets. The article is in a subcategory that is only a subcategory of a very general parent. Clearly we do not want to put all articles in higher level categories as it destroys the usefulness of categories and makes parent categories with thousands of listings. Thank you. (Added... also you both seem unaware there is a Category:Go, which is a subcategory of both Board games and Abstract strategy games. It should be clear that the individual entries in the abstract category for the Go article is redundant already, but ignoring the Go category completely and placing the article in parent and child categories too is completely inappropriate. The Go category exists for a reason.) I hope that helps clear things up. 2005 23:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

After a second thought, it might be okay not to add the Go article in Category:Board games. It is because I forget Category:Go is listed already in Category:Board games, so the article Go may exempt from it. However this reason do not apply to other articles of board games like backgammon. They should still be included in Category:Board games.--Wai Wai (talk) 01:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

After a check, it is not true. There are cases where it is listed in several places, eg Monopoly has been listed itself as a subcategory. It is also listed in various board-gamed-related field, namely "Party board games", "Board games", "Economic simulation board games". --Wai Wai (talk) 01:57, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Individual board games and category of board game

Sorry to say, but what you say appears you haven't read the guideline before you make your judgement. You simply judge based on your own reasoning which is inappropriate. The reasons why your categorization method is wrong is as follows:

1. From the sound of it, what you try to do is to avoid duplication. However the wiki policy has stated it prefers duplication to "1 article must be in only 1 category".
2. You keep mentioning there is redundancy, as in "the individual entries in the abstract category for the Go article is redundant already". Again the wiki policy is written after the long discussion by many editors. As stated in the page, this policy has general acceptance among editors and is considered a standard that all users should follow. You shouldn't delete a cetegory simply because you don't like duplication/redundancy.
3. It appears you don't understand why the category of Go and its related duplication are for, as you just keep it because "The Go category exists for a reason." If it were me who created the category and the duplication, you would have deleted it. They are here due to the "Topic Article Rule".
4. You misunderstood the straightforward case. "Straightforward" is not the rule when you judge where to put your article. This word merely describe the case (the author thought it is easy to understand why. However the case is not straightforward as shown in your understanding to the situation). Actually the article does not specify the reason for this categorization. You may have imagined the reasons behind and made the wrong judgement. Maybe the article should rewrite to provide a better overview, so less misunderstanding will occur.
   1. The reason why the bridge case is similar to "Board games" vs "games". "Games" is the structure head of the category. People will not expect to find "Game of Go" when they browse at "Games". But this case does not apply when it goes to "board games" VS "abstract strategy games". I will explain it later.
5. All these imply you haven't read the policy before making your own judgment.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not criticising or blaming you. The reasons why I spend time on listing all these is to encourage you in revisting the WHOLE policy before making your judgement again. I have attempted to ask you to revisit, but you may be in a hurry, you probably just read the first introductory statement or so and perform the action. I guess you haven't read the WHOLE article once, have you? If negative, it would be great if you read the whole policy of Wikipedia:Categorization CAREFULLY (not just the sub-topic which I mention previously).

As a reminder, judgement should be made based on the reasons given in the policy, but not one's own. Next time, if similar things appear, please back up your decision with citation of specific statements of the policy, not just the policy name because we have arguments within the policy.

As to "board games" VS "abstract strategy games", the reasons are simple. If you care to read Falcorian's explanation, you may understand why. It is simply due to the following policy:
Quoted from Wikipedia:Categorization/Categories_and_subcategories#Reasons for duplication:

SECONDARY CATEGORIZATION METHODS When an article is put into a subcategory based on an attribute that is not the first thing most people would think of to categorise it, it should be left in the parent category as well. This includes articles placed in ethnic subcategories within national menus, for example articles in Category:African American basketball players should also be left in Category:American basketball players.

--Wai Wai (talk) 01:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know why you insist on duplicating this discussion everywhere, but please go to the Go talk page if you want to present an argument for why Go should be listed twice in both Board games and Abstract strategy games. You have as yet, on several talk pages to even address that. Go is in both categories you want it in. In the future I suggest you read the guidelines as guidelines and not looking for exceptions, and also familiarize yourself with the categories since it appears you are still unaware of what is actually in them. 2005 01:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

It is because you have missed reading my reply. Sorry about the confusion. In the Go talk page I am to ask third-party advice, not your advice again.

Read this reply as it seems you have missed it: "After a second thought, it might be okay not to add the Go article in Go. It is because I forget Go is listed already in Category:Board games, so the article Go may exempt from it. However this reason do not apply to other articles of board games like backgammon. They should still be included in Category:Board games. "

Go is a special case. But why do you revert others too? You have to explain your reasons with reference to the policy.

(Updated) I'm wrong. There are cases where it is listed as well.--Wai Wai (talk) 01:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if we should continue as this page is Falcorian. Maybe I should copy (but not cut) the whole discussion to your page.--Wai Wai (talk) 01:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Please use the discussion pages for articles, rather than make comments on multiple user pages. 2005 01:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea where we should ask. This question is not specific to any particular board game. --Wai Wai (talk) 01:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

On a page for any game or article or category you want to change policy on, or in one of the general wiki discussion areas/pages. 2005 01:50, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm so bloody confused... I go away for a few hours and my talk page explodes! --Falcorian ^(talk) 03:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Just ignore the above. The incident occurred when User:2005 was going around and reverted all my category changes. I referenced to the policy which you have mentioned and reverted the change. However User:2005 kept reverting so quickly and violated Wikipedia:Three-revert rule. To prevent another edit war, I stopped my edits first. Originally the discussion started at User:2005 page. Later User:2005 deleted all the discussions in its talk page and switched the discussion here. That's why your talk page exploded. Sorry about that.--Wai Wai (talk) 03:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

No problems... Glad my space is of help. ;) --Falcorian ^(talk) 03:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:AIV

The IP you reported, 62.31.57.79 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log), is admittedly engaging in a protracted campaign of vandalism, but there hasn't been any within the last 6 hours. It's possible he could have read the warnings. Hold off a bit before posting on AIV. alphaChimp ^laudare 05:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Falcorian! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Computerjoe's talk 11:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks for adding me. --Falcorian ^(talk) 15:35, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

VandalSniper

You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. --Chris (talk) 22:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! No vandals won't be safe regardless of which OS I boot. ;) --Falcorian ^(talk) 22:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Answers.com Gibson Research Corporation copyvio

O_O Ok, somebody was copying somebody, I'd still suggest the merge to Steve Gibson and will, I never knew that about answers.com :-) Thanks for dropping by. --Elomis 23:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Feel free to propose a merge though! --Falcorian ^(talk) 23:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Please help

Sorry to bother you, but as an Inclusionist wikipedia things are getting desperate and I need to appeal to your for help. We are facing a situation where a deletionist admin is free to declare inclusionist arguments "absurd" and ignore them at will. If you don't agree with this situation, please share your opinion here. Kappa 02:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Also, as a note to other editors, DO NOT remove content from my talk page. I will consider it vandalism. --Falcorian ^(talk) 04:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello

hey I'm Zelam Ngo, Facebook me, I'm also a physics major at Berkeley! (and it wasnt vandalism)

Good to meet you! Maybe you didn't intend it to be vandalism, but some would see it as such. But please, edit the article further! We can use all the help we can get!

And unfortunately I can't Facebook you, I canceled my account a while ago. ;) Best of luck on finals! --Falcorian ^(talk) 17:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)