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Greek Mathematics article changes

Hello I was wondering why the changes were made under the Hellenistic and Roman period in the Greek mathematics article, I liked the way you rephrased some of the stuff but not all of it, and also wondering where some of your citations are.SouryaMo (talk) 23:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)SouryaMo

Overall, the article provided good information, but some of it was overtly detailed for an overview of Greek mathematics. For instance, the discussion about Pythagoras and his supposed discoveries took over much space at the expense of mentioning other, more credible figures such as Hippasus or Archytas. If the reader wishes to know more about Pythagoras, they can certainly click the link to the Pythagoras article, which covers all that information and more. I used the same principle for the Hellenistic and Roman periods. I will add more citations to these sections, as I do have them but haven't been able to find the time to do it. Guillermind81 (talk) 16:17, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

June 2021

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I appreciate the feedback. I'll revise my edits to avoid any copyright violations and cite as much as possible.Guillermind81 (talk) 17:14, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

On Archimedes discussion (continued)

hi,

i appreciate your thoughtful opinion, but i think you misunderstood my position.

1. i never interpreted your comments to diminish the work of archimedes. 2. i never thought the listed individuals would detract from his overall influence, i was merely stating my opinion that i thought it would (without assuming your intention). 3. the simplest way of viewing my response is this: i don't think the work needs to show similarity to demonstrate influence.

history is chock-full of artists in one area being influenced by another.

i'm not sure if acting is an art, but if it is then there are many actors inspired by musicians. this is the easiest example

what i was trying to convey is that it is very difficult to extend the work of archimedes, or directly build on it, because his work is primitive.

i do believe gauss' work is a foundation for proving much of archimedes work (in a framework that most modern mathematicians accept, i.e. dry euclid-style proofs), but this is original research for now.

i appreciate you sharing those links, and while i appreciate the authors' efforts, those would not satisfy an active mathematician in a the related field in terms of 'proof'. they are used to something much more rigid.

archimedes work is deceptive in its simplicity. it would be impossible for any mathematician (including gauss) to show a direct relationship whilst satisfying the criteria of a modern mathematical proof.

i will refrain from calling myself a mathematician as some still want to say i am not, but i do have a reasonable amount of experience in the areas related to calculus. and this is what i was drawing on.

if you think about it, modern calculus is just a comprehensive collection of works demonstrating Archimedes' method. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.53.108.48 (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree with everything you said, including the part about the calculus, as the Archimedean inspiration that led to its birth is undeniable. Alas! I think you nailed it when you said our differences come down to whether or not similarity (at a minimum) demonstrates influence. I can see why you will say no, but I can also see the risk of reducing everything (and everyone) to Archimedes. As a mathematician, perhaps, that's an acceptable risk, but as a historian, it is not. Thanks for a great discussion. Guillermind81 (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

P.S. I'll be remiss if I do not mention two other papers that, without being as exacting in their proofs as one may wish, nonetheless betray an Archimedean influence:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0723086907000540/pdfft?md5=fd209fc448b11a2498e57cd602444666&pid=1-s2.0-S0723086907000540-main.pdf

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0723086916300317/pdfft?md5=db40311478c990cbc19b487548d468af&pid=1-s2.0-S0723086916300317-main.pdf

My input for Christiaan Huygens

Hello Guillermind81,

Thank you for your response. I accept your comment about putting my input into Footnotes. The problem is that I am novice in Wikipedia editing and know how to do very basic edits. Since the article does not have already a Footnote section, it is a very HUUUUge project for me to create one and add my info in there. Furthermore, I have no new citations except those which are in Maxwell's article in Wikipedia. I thought that the info HERE is not complete (i.e there was further development with Maxwell..) so i thought that it is appropriate to add it. It is all in Maxwell's article and I linked to it. Bottom line, due to lack of my experience, if you think this is not acceptable, you can discard my entire input. Thanks anyway.

I have added a note and a reference in the appropriate section. Ideally, it is preferable to remain focus on Huygens' work or his contributions rather than getting off-topic (otherwise you'll end up with an unwieldy article as Huygens' work covered a wide range of topics in mathematics and physics). If a reader wishes to know more about Saturn's rings, they could certainly click on the link to Wikipedia's article on the same, which has more than enough information on Maxwell and others. Guillermind81 (talk) 15:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

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I hope my comments didn't come across as too harsh. I think that the article would benefit from peer review before another FAC. You can get reviews by contacting FAC regulars or Wikiprojects. (t · c) buidhe 16:47, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Not at all. I welcomed the feedback; it is important to make sure the article is up to par. I will reach out to one of the FAC mentors when I get a chance. Thanks. --Guillermind81 (talk) 03:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

John von Neumann edits

Hi, I created a talk section regarding some edits you made on the John von Neumann page, do you have any agreements/disagreements with it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by STEMster42 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Made a few points again if you don't mind reviewing them thanks. STEMster42 (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi once again, did a little bit of reordering if you can take a look when you have some time, cheers. STEMster42 (talk) 18:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks for the information. The page was recently created and I just began the process of adding content. Please allow me at least to the end of the day before considering deletion. Guillermind81 (talk) 19:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

My apologies Guillermind. When I nominated the article for speedy deletion, it contained only a few non-sensical words. The article looks promising, but still needs some cleanup, and most importantly, it needs references. Articles in the mainspace are required to be sourced. Even when working on a draft, it's best to come up with the sources and then build the article from there. I've reverted the speedy deletion nomination, but I'll be draftifying the article. You can work on it as a draft and publish it when you add the sources. Keep up the good work! -- Mooonswimmer 20:05, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. Guillermind81 (talk) 20:08, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

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Much appreciated. I will keep that in mind going forward. Best, Guillermind81 (talk) 04:31, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

On the Equilibrium of Planes

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Thanks for reaching out. I did not mean to pass my personal judgment on the proof; my intention instead was to make the reader aware that there are some scholars who had raised questions regarding the validity of Propositions 6-7 of book one, including the absence of a definition for centre of gravity. I'll correct the grammatical error and re-word the sentence so that it conveys my intent better. Guillermind81 (talk) 21:28, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding a couple good references on Greek mathematics

I agree that "mostly from the 5th century BC to the 6th century AD" seems like a fair summary, so thanks for putting that back with a couple of references. I like Sidoli's work (this one and others) especially because he is typically careful to clearly distinguish what is known and how, what is conjectured by whom and on what grounds, and what is pure myth.

In the future would you mind leaving off the "minor edit" tickmark if you make substantive changes, even if they are small in scope, and also including a clear edit summary? This date change, while a small edit, doesn't really seem like a "copyedit", nor is it an insignificant change.

Again thanks, and cheers. –jacobolus (t) 07:32, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome and I'll keep that in mind next time. -- Guillermind81 (talk) 02:33, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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Christiaan Huygens as the new Archimedes

I read your personal biography, I was just wondering, in deeper detail and personal explanation, why Huygens more than, say Galileo Galilei or Isaac Newton, would be considered the new Archimedes rather than those two, considering their influence, especially Newton and his massive contributions and influence to the development of science as a whole and mathematics, considering as you say multiple historians say Huygens was the new Archimedes or something of similar lines? Reaper1945 (talk) 04:26, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for reading!

That's a good question and, before I answer, I want to say the comparison is my personal opinion and by no means an authoritative declaration. When I look for the "New Archimedes," I'm not looking in terms of fame or recognition as commonly thought, because on those measures yes Galileo, and even more Newton, rank closer to Archimedes than Huygens. What I'm looking for is Archimedes' influence in the "style" and "subject matter" of their work, that is, how closely does Galileo's, Newton's, or Huygens' work resembles Archimedes? It is here that Huygens jumps ahead, and I listed 8 reasons why (plus a bunch of other, more authoritative, sources that agree). I read plenty of Archimedes and much early modern science and, on my reading, Huygens is the closest to the great Syracusan on those two accounts. -- Guillermind81 (talk) 05:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the response and explanation, Huygens is definitely an underrated figure of science I would say, compared to Galileo or Newton who are more mainstream. Finding the similarity in Archimedes's and Huygens style and subject matter is fascinating, despite being thousands of years apart, one can always find continuance through time. Archimedes is fascinating to me for being such a genius that far back then and also anticipating calculus thousands of years later, which is quite remarkable considering he was still in BC and not AD. Reaper1945 (talk) 22:58, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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