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I was trying to cull the "see also" list of this revision of honor killing. Would you have culled the list without creating the new article? Andjam (talk) 02:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

A "see also" list isn't valuable content, it's just a helpful list of supposedly relevant links. If some links aren't appropriate for the article they're in, then remove them (with an explanation if it isn't obvious). They don't take on a life of their own that needs to be preserved elsewhere. —Largo Plazo (talk) 02:37, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Reply with Thanx

I thank you for the reply and pointing out the mistake. I was ignorant about signing. Should I do it again in my edited page?. If so I can. I read your talks with many others to know what WP is all about. Your conversations are really objective and to the point. Could you please see my edited page Jayen Varma. Its a long discussed topic, which requires immediate decision. I hope you can get what I mean!!!. When my name is googled, WP comes on Top. But there are a lot of notices in the page. Thats really causing confussion among people. So pl do the needful in this regards. Thanks--Jayenvarma (talk) 19:18, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. But as far as your article is concerned, I've already noted twice that it doesn't matter how your article looks. I don't see that you are a notable person as described in WP:Notability (people) and it's evident from the effort you have put into the deletion debate and from the things you have said that your primary interest is in having an article about yourself on Wikipedia. To me, that's self-promotion, and that isn't allowed. —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

AFD

When he said:

-) can i just say..please go ahead and do whatever you think is right....yeas you are right..i am not special...sorry for trying to convince..damn i made a mistake .-) ...have fun..and don´t be evil :-) Ivo (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

I think it was just a case of his Engrich not being that good (German, I think), thus all the smileys. The "damn i made a mistake" is what sealed the idea that he was truly understanding. I can see how you could have misunderstood at first glance and wanted to help a bit. Hope no offense taken. PHARMBOY (TALK) 20:34, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

No offense at all! I seriously meant it that you could be right, and yes, it's clear the English is a second language for him. I was just predisposed to reading his note in the light in which I did because he'd been playing the victim all along, including in our exchange on his talk page. No worries! And thanks for writing. —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Now I'm persuaded that he was being sincere. Look at his user page. Funny guy! —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

ha! I looked at his user page earlier when it was a bit more angry, but yea, that kinda futher's the belief. PHARMBOY (TALK) 21:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the reply. I had earlier confessed that I had to make lot of changes due to my ignorance in editing rules and when notices were posting in the article. But Pl feel free to look into List of slap bass players (electric bass) For Eg; Pl see the profile of the 25th person in the said list. I do not want to name him. . I respect many of these bassists. But do you think all these are notables? Most of the articles look like autobiographis for self promo. And many such cases are there in many other pages. So why only me?. There is nothing false in my article, but I see many informations are exaggerated in many people's and band's 'profile' where there is not even a single reference. I am not blaming anyone out here. It could have been done by the affected artistes, Bands or their officials for promo. I do not bother if mine alone is deleted. Let the World decide whether I am or I will be a notable person from my live performances. I am hurt by the numorous notices placed in my article even though these are only facts. If this is decided to be deleted, I request that my name may be deleted or allowed to be deleted from all other pages in WP. I hope a decision will be taken soon and these are not at all personnel....Thanks once again. ..--Jayenvarma (talk) 01:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

"Let the World decide whether I am or I will be a notable person ...." Exactly. If people consider you notable, someone may write an article on you. The question now is, why are you so determined to have an article about yourself? Wikipedia is not a place for self-promotion. It isn't a place to try to make yourself notable. As far as "I hope a decision will be taken soon" is concerned, if you've read the material that explains the process, then you know it takes five days. —Largo Plazo (talk) 08:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Washington Performing Arts Society

The WPAS information has been revamped and edited to fit the wikipedia protocol and standards. Is there any way that you or another wikipedia expert could read the edits before posting them, to ensure that the page does not get removed again? Thank you!

WPAS (talk) 18:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)WPAS

Well, sure, I'd be glad to. You can post it to a subpage in your area, say, User:WPAS/WPAS Draft, and I'll take a look once you let me know it's there. Just so you know: I'm not any kind of Wikipedia official—there really is no such thing. But I'm willing to pitch on my two cents.—Largo Plazo (talk) 02:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much! The draft is up on the page you created, and I'd really appreciate you checking on the changes and letting me know if you can find any instances of "blatant advertising" or anything wrong. WPAS (talk) 20:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)WPASWPAS (talk) 20:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)WPAS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WPAS/WPAS_Draft Hello! Have you had a chance to look at the draft? I really appreciate this! Thanks. WPAS (talk) 19:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)WPASWPAS (talk) 19:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I went out of town just after you'd posted your previous note to me and didn't devote any time to it. I'll take a look at it shortly. Thanks for the reminder. —Largo Plazo (talk) 19:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Moly bolt

Hi...I wanted to raise a concerns over your move to this article. You moved the page to Molly (fastener) citing that the original title is a misspelling, however, the source that I cited spelled it the way I named the article. I have no problem if you want to created a redirect out of Molly (fastener), but you don't have any citation backing up your move based on spelling. Thanks. --Wizard191 (talk) 00:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Here's the record from the US Patent and Trademark Office (which shows that the name was trademarked as far back as 1934, though the trademark was canceled a few years ago). The Oxford English Dictionary cites this: "1934 Official Gaz. (U.S. Patent Office) 17 July 524/2 Molly... For expansion bolts. Claims use since January, 1934." —Largo Plazo (talk) 01:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for supplying the cite. --Wizard191 (talk) 01:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. And thanks for posting the photo. I'd come across it in a Google image search and meant to do it, but forgot.—Largo Plazo (talk) 01:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Response to me re "grungy toes"

no thats not what they taught me at princeton i'm a high school student. me and my friend decide to start calling an employee at work grungy toes, even though we had no idea what it meant. she got pissed and wanted to find out what it was, so i made up a wikipedia article about it to convince her it was real. but she never got to read it because it took you .5 seconds to find it and delete it. you could have just removed it tomorrow or something. thanks for ruining a funny joke wikipedia man.

yeah i really don't think anyone other than my friend was going to plan on looking up grungy toes on wikipedia. maybe if this was a huge risk of being viewed then i wouldn't of done that, but i didn't know that grungy toes was that popular of a subject. i would hate to dissapoint the avid wikipedia fan base by giving them false information on this subject that i guess is highly important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princetongraduate (talk • contribs) 03:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

so you have a wikipedia police force? i don't even think google is this stupi........i mean organized —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princetongraduate (talk • contribs) 03:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Not One Sparrow question

Thank you, Largoplazo, for your comments on the Not One Sparrow article. Would it be best for me to leave items related to notability in the "history" section of the article, or in a different section? Thanks Wikiwikip0808 (talk) 03:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC) By the way, I appreciate you guys, or at least the administrator who came after you, giving me less than two hours to edit the article. I was in the process of doing so, about to save my changes, when the entire thing was deleted. That can't be good, or fair policy. Wikiwikip0808 (talk) 04:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry you lost the material you were working on, but you should have been able to hit the Back button so you could copy it and paste it into a file on your computer or into a user subpage like User:Wikiwikip0808/Not One Sparrow draft this one. You can get it in the state in which it was last saved by asking the admin who deleted it; (s)he'll probably place it on a user subpage for you. As for references, see articles about similar organizations to get some ideas, and read WP:References and WP:Footnotes. It's good to use inline references for anything anywhere in the article that can be supported by an external source; you can also have an External links section for further information not referenced within the article's content but that will support the factuality of the article or provide worthwhile further information.—Largo Plazo (talk) 11:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I have my material saved, and am grateful for all of your help and advice. But again, the problem I raised above has to do with the timing of the deletion process - no business policy allows less than two hours for a legitimate edit to take place which the the organization itself encouraged. It would probably help if one administrator worked on an article at a time. Wikiwikip0808 (talk) 01:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

WTF?

I don't get it. I'm trying to stop some guy whose being a vandalistic jackass, and you're blaming ME? He WAS being an asshole, and I read somewhere that Wikipedia is not censored, so WTF? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.80.244.188 (talk • contribs)

If you don't get it, WP:NOTCENSORED, WP:PROFANITY, WP:CIVILITY, and WP:ATTACK should give you a clearer understanding that you aren't allowed to do whatever you want. You'll learn that this isn't the recommended way to deal with vandals on Wikipedia. And thanks for making me go through hoops to figure out who you are and what the heck you were talking about, by not bothering to sign your post. Please follow your posts to talk page with four tildes (~~~~).—Largo Plazo (talk) 11:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

DDDuuuuddeee

He was like the greatest guitar hero evaaarrrr —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foolishpie999 (talk • contribs) 15:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The El Loco Fwaba Xperience

Hello, I'd like a copy of the deleted article that I posted last night.

If I make revisions and state why the article is noteworthy, it won't be tagged for speedy deletion, am I correct?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperClamPerson (talk • contribs) 19:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I'm not an admin; the admin who actually deleted the article was User talk:Discospinster, so you'll need to ask him. Correct, an article that conveys the notability of its topic isn't subject to speedy deletion—but if someone thinks that the topic isn't notable in fact, he can request a deletion discussion, during which interested Wikipedia users will try to reach a consensus. So it's in your interest to be sure your article includes references to reliable third-party sources suitable for demonstrating notability in accordance with WP:Notability (bands). Also, see WP:References. Regards.—Largo Plazo (talk) 19:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Dams

Definately the best thing is to get them started with the format and basic data. In my experience they are far mor elikely to be started and develop this way rather than somebody starting with a full translated article. Most people are likely to see that the article has already been created and would expand it. The Bald One ^{White cat} 15:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Immediate Care Wichita

This immediate care wichita clinic has been referenced over a half a dozen times in the the Wichita Eagle, local ABC affiliate-KAKE, the local CBS affiliate-KWCH, as well as the B98 FM radio station. If these news organizations feel that this business is news-worthy this should not be ignored. In two of the news stories mentioned above the company was quoted as saying they will provide the local population with at least 3 more clinic locations as options for those who do not belong in the ER and are unable to see their family physician. This health care group is providing a vital, previously not available option to those who are un/underinsured or who do not have a family doctor. I am a medical student and have been following the Urgent care/retail clinic emergence in this area and feel that this company is significant for numerous reasons,not the least of which being that it is the only independent urgent care clinic in the largest city in the state of Kansas a metropolitan area of nearly 700,000 people. [1] --MDnews2u (talk) 01:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MDnews2u (talk • contribs)

in reference to Immediate Care Wichita

I will ask you to please stop placing a speedy deletion tag on the IC wichita page. The references were provided in addition to the reasoning for its place in the encyclopedia. It was also "wikified" with internal links enabled and its structure was refined, if there is some reason why you have taken issue with this specific page other than the reasons which were earlier stated and subsequently rectified please feel free to write in the discussions section and try to stop impeding the public's access to information about a growing sector of healthcare in the midwestern US. I challenge you to search high and low for an independent urgent care clinic in this metropolitan area not associated with a hospital or private medical group. If you are successful I will edit the page to represent all independent urgent care clinics in this -Largest city in the state of Kansas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MDnews2u (talk • contribs) 03:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

[[1]] this is another example of the notability of this clinic and its approach to healthcare. The articles written by Andi Atwater and Carrie Rengers are no longer available online but are readily accessible from the print versions and may be requested. The Wichita Eagle is a state wide publication-with one of the largest circulations in the region. certainly if you were from the lower midwest you would understand the significance of both this newspaper and the healthcare industry in this metropolatin area. --MDnews2u (talk) 03:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

If other references are available, they should be cited. By the way, see WP:CITE. Your references should look like something in the article, not just be unlabeled links.

I'm going to take the speedy deletion tag off right now, because you have made the point that the article claims notability for ICW, which defeats a speedy deletion, but there must be demonstrated actual notability because otherwise a regular deletion process can be launched, in which interested contributors can take five days to try to arrive at a consensus.—Largo Plazo (talk) 03:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

ic wichita

I encourage Largoplazo to email andi atwater who is the Eagle's chief healthcare correspondent and ask her what she thinks of the significance of this clinic and its place as the first of its kind. I followed this clinic and its opening through the local media and feel quite adamant about the urgent care industry as a separate area of primary care independent of a hospital or a major medical group who would require that you are a patient under one of their physicians before being treated for a non-emergent condition. --MDnews2u (talk) 04:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Arguing for the notability of the independent acute care practice in general is distinct from addressing the notability of any particular facility in that practice.—Largo Plazo (talk) 11:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

ic wichita deletion

The ICW page was deleted without observing the designated 5 days. Please look into this and let me know what you find out. At the very least a copy of the page and all its edits should be made available so that it may be conformed to the necessary standards. In response to your comment above, this is why I am willing to change the page (and its name) to reflect all practices of this kind in this metropolatin area in an attempt to educate the public on this growing area of medicine which is why once again this specific clinic's explanation is vital and necessary to the representation and informative nature of an encyclopedia page. The Independent Urgent Care (not acute care-this is very different) sector of Healthcare in this area is vastly untouched and it is with this article that I intend to educate the public about the gap in Care b/w a family doctor and the ER for non-emergent conditions which have directly caused healthcare spending and subsequently insurance premiums and deductibles to baloon out of control. If the public is knowledgeable about a clinic such as this it wil undoubtedly increase demand for additaional clinics i.e. COMPETITION which is usually best for the people who really matter-those in need. --MDnews2u (talk) 19:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I see someone else explained that the ICW article was speedy-deleted rather than under WP:PROD or WP:AFD (and, by the way, it was several hours after I'd removed the tag, and I'd never tagged it for advertising, so someone else must have done it) and aslo left you some useful information on getting a fresh start. Thanks for the correction on acute care versus urgent care—I thought they both meant, very roughly put, someplace you can go to get looked at immediately for the kind of thing that would be wasteful of an emergency room's resources and where too many people with more serious conditions would be seen ahead of you at an ER.—Largo Plazo (talk) 19:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your help and thank you for your honesty. If you have any way of recovering the original page so that I may make the necessary changes this would be a great help. Thank You.--MDnews2u (talk) 20:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Note re Gareth Doherty

Thanks for your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linoesilva (talk • contribs) 04:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

résumés

Hi Largoplazo.

You've linked to the the WP:RESUME on a user talk page. There's a discussion about that essay going on at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia is not the place to post your résumé#Tone - you might want to join in. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 19:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Skyline Mall

All of Skyline mall is now a Target, save for some offices in the basement. I did find this source about the mall but very little else. Since it's part of an office complex, is there any chance that the complex might be notable enough for a page? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 00:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think so. The whole complex is pretty nondescript, no special features that I'm aware of. By contrast, I wouldn't think to question the Crystal City Underground article. It's the distinguishing feature of the whole Crystal City community and I think it was novel in the US to have a series of underground public shopping areas connected by tunnels like that.—Largo Plazo (talk) 00:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Number Permutation Systems

The reason I'm initiating an AfD on this is because something tells me this guy will be right back at it when his 12-hour block will be lifted. This way, we can invoke the snowball clause and get any recreation deleted under WP:CSD#G4 after the AfD is closed. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 18:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! —Largo Plazo (talk) 18:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of size2shoes

The deletion of Size2shoes was unprecedented. The group's importance was referenced fully and complied to two of the band/musical group notability criteria as listed on my talk page. Another administrator (see user talk for Theosony) asked me to restart the article using the references, which I did, proving the band's importance. The have (as proven and sources through Ireland's Limerick Leader article (sourced)) received television coverage (national) and national radio coverage and have toured extensively as size2shoes and with other artists. Therefore I ask for a justification of the deletion and an answer as to why the page was deleted considering it adhered to at least one (one required) piece of criteria on the notability guidelines.--Theosony (talk) 23:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Were the references there? Because I don't see them on the page you were given for working on them in your user area. If they were, then I apologize. If you'll give me the references, I'll take a look and then ask the deleting admin to restore the article.—Largo Plazo (talk) 23:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Search Google. I'll restart the page, from now on check the actual page and not the archived version on my user page. Thanks.--Theosony (talk) 23:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Mogulus

An article that you have been involved in editing, Mogulus, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mogulus. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Boffob (talk) 15:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

i didnt know that. i'll use that in the future. --Billthevampire (talk) 17:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Spiritual Atheism deleted per CSD G11

Hi there. Just wanted to let you know that I initially declined the speedy-delete request on Spiritual Atheism since it didn't appear to be advertising for anything, but on closer review (including your rationale on the talk page), I discovered that the website is owned by the same person whose name is used for the account that created that page. This definitely qualifies as advertising (if subtly). The page has now been speedy-deleted, and I'll leave a note on the user's page letting him know about our advertising policies. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

That's correct—I had written something to that effect on the article's talk page. Thanks for double checking, and for letting me know!—Largo Plazo (talk) 19:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Gallery tag for hp-FEM

Thank you for pointing out the gallery tag! PavelSolin (talk) 21:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough

Fair enough, but you understand what I'm trying to say, a nation doesn't have to be in the UN to be considered a nation. For example W & E Germany were no in the UN until mid 70s and N & S Koreas were not in the UN until 90s ect. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 14:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your worry with this edit. I'd apreciate it if you wouldn't poke your nose into my somethimes extremely extensive apologies for accidental vandalism. Cheers, Mr. SvMvP (talk) 19:45, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Albanian personalities

Thanks for your edit in Albanian Declaration of Independence. Actually, 90% of them are significant personalities of Albanian history, and to every one I will add information. It will take a bit time, but I hope that nobody will delete them, until I finish my job. I started with the 2 first. Dom Nikollë Kaçorri and Myfid bej Libohova. Please take a look and tell me if they are ok. Thanks again.Balkanian`s word (talk) 21:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome, and I think those two articles look fine. Instead of just leaving it to hope that no one deletes the other articles, though, I would suggest following Omarcheeseboro's advice and putting {{albania-bio-stub}} on each of the other pages now, along with {{under construction}} at the top of each, removing these tags from each article as you complete it (and replacing the stub tag with one for a category, like Category:Albanian politicians or whatever is applicable for each of them.—Largo Plazo (talk) 21:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Some problems with submitting

Sorry for disturbing, but I really need your help to create my company page. As you always ban my post as advertisement. Recently I've checked a lot of other companies from similar business fieds, among them, Luxoft, Epam, DataArt and I noticed the same structure. So, could you please provide me with some tips as to how I can submit my post?

Thanks in advance!

(Sergey.Lesnikov (talk) 10:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC))

Hi. Please see my boilerplate response at User:Largoplazo/Templates/Other articles. Also see WP:Conflict of interest. Note that even if someone unrelated to your company were to write an article about it, WP:Notability (companies) would apply. —Largo Plazo (talk) 11:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi!

Thanks for your time and response, I appreciate it so much! But I'm afraid that I've done smth wrong with reference links:

- could you please help me to identify what kind of links would be appropriate? and how many should I present in my post? I would appreciate if I sent you some and you'll chose the right ones.

- I'm not actually sure that I made right formatting with references, or they ok?

Best Regards Sergey

(Sergey.Lesnikov (talk) 12:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC))

Hi again. It doesn't look like I'm making myself very clear on this. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. You say you need help to create your company's page. But Wikipedia is not to be used for promoting anything. You aren't supposed to create "your company's page". If your company is sufficiently notable, someone else might create an article on your company. If you'd really like someone to write an article, you might try leaving a request at WP:Articles for Creation.

You also need to understand that any article about your company would be just like every other article on Wikipedia: it would be subject to editing by everyone else, and it might not say what you want it to say for very long anyway. See WP:Ownership.

You might find further helpful explanations at WP:What Wikipedia is not.

Regards.—Largo Plazo (talk) 14:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Dear Largo,

Thanks for your tips, they're very useful. Sorry for my attempts to submit smth out of appropriate format. I will take a look at this process from different prospective and I hope I will be able to came up with really relevant information for Wiki. I would be very grateful if I can be in a contact with you further.

Again thanks for your time and help! (Sergey.Lesnikov (talk) 15:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC))

Andrew Frost

Authorised by Andy Frost at EmergingCulture.Co.Uk - please call me on 07710 337094 Oakburn (talk) 11:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The deletion notice provides the instructions for addressing this.If it's been deleted by the time you get to it, see WP:COPYVIO.—Largo Plazo (talk) 11:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Did I? I look at the history page, I reverted the page into where the copyvio tag was there; or did I mistakenly revert it? For the vandalism summary, it comes from WP:TW; the easiest to revert with warning message to the previous editor. Dekisugi (talk) 14:51, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

You did, here.—Largo Plazo (talk) 15:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it the same between what I did, here, and what you did, here ?? Dekisugi (talk) 00:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Not exactly! I was restoring tags that the author had improperly removed. In your case, the user had blanked the entire page, thereby eliminating the violation, which was a good thing, as well as the tags that marked it--and a blank page is itself grounds to be tagged for speedy deletion, so I would have put {{db-author}} on it.—Largo Plazo (talk) 01:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Vandal claiming innocence

You are picking on me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deekybobo (talk • contribs) 12:51, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

NPP

Hey Largo, I know about New Page Patrol but something that has often frustrated me about it is, if as I do, you were to access the new page though recent changes, you don't get a "mark page as patrolled" button. This makes it virtually impossible for me to patrol RC and mark the occasional new page that comes up on there as patrolled. Any way I hope I haven’t inconvenienced you. However in future if I am to find new page vandalism on the RC, I shall tag "db" it, then open NPP and mark it as patrolled, a bit roundabout, but it accomplishes the correct aim. Thank you for the note Spitfire^Tally-ho! 17:43, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I should have thought of that. Sorry for bothering you about it. Yeah, it is a nuisance coming upon deleteable pages without having the Patrol link there. Regards. —Largo Plazo (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

It's no problem at all, cheers Spitfire^Tally-ho! 18:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Disclosure in article

Hello. I am new to the wikipedia community. I would like to resolve the conflict of interest (COI) tag put on the article [Best Management Products]. I have no problem disclosing that I, TJ Mullen, am the creator of the article and the president of the company. We want to offer full disclosure. In fact, I had no intention of contributing until one of the recipients of my company's free devices recommended that we put something on wikipedia as it would benefit other public works officials. The primary purpose was to provide knowledge to communities in North America that are looking for stormwater quality improvement options about our Adopt-A-SNOUT project. Further references and links were provided, including a link to a US EPA site and a few others, to give potential users further information.

My question is, if I edited the article [Best Management Products] to include the text; "T. J. Mullen, president of Best Management Products, is a major contributor to this article" would it be more conforming to the wikipedia standards and eliminate the need for the COI tag?

Thanks for your review. Tjmullen3 (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. The thing is, you really ought not to write the article at all. I understand that it was suggested that you do so, but that's really at odds with the intent of Wikipedia, which is to provide verifiable, unbiased information about notable topics referenced from third-party reliable sources, the kind of information you'd expect to find in an encyclopedia. It isn't meant to be a vehicle for communicating one's own affairs to the world, even if it's ostensibly for the benefit of others. Original research isn't allowed for example: a scientist isn't supposed to write an article to explain his own theories; and people who are experts in a field from knowledge they've acquired through their own learning are still supposed to provide citations for their contributions.

The COI notice isn't a matter of disclosure, at least not in this case, because I've already noted the nature of the conflict on the article's Talk page. As the notice indicates, the only way to resolve it is for others to modify it so that it really isn't your product any more. Ordinarily a company such as yours would wind up with an article because someone else who knew about your company found it worth writing about.

I concede that your article appears balanced on the face of it, and if a third party had written it, it wouldn't ring any bells at all. I also think a couple of the references you provide are sufficient to establish notability under the guidelines established for companies. So, while I don't speak for anyone else, I don't think it'll disappear any time soon. I thought it was sufficiently objective in form that I put the COI tag on it instead of nominating it for deletion as a blatant advertisement, and no one else has nominated it either. Others may come and revise it to an extent that will justify removal of the tag. Or maybe the person who recommended writing the article would want to try his or her hand at it! Regards. —Largo Plazo (talk) 04:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Hopefully others will read it and add to it and make it more objective. Very interesting, this wikipedia thing... Thanks again. Cheers, TJ Tjmullen3 (talk) 12:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Bobbani/holod is suppose to be a sandbox article. it is a copy of the Holodomor article from the Ukrainian Wikipedia. I am using Google translate to get an idea of the Ukrainian perspective on this article. Thanks for directing it to the proper location Bobanni (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

RE:

Okay, thanks. I wasn't sure why it wasn't right to blank talk pages, that is how I've seen it over the few months. People always adding back in the warnings and saying OWN. I was mistaken. Thanks.--WillC 18:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Removal of Institute for Women in Trades, Technology and Science Wikipedia pages

Hello, Largoplazo. I didn't realize I'd created multiple pages. I only intended to create one, but kept getting a "this is a copy of a master meta page" message so I guess I accidentally made several thinking one of them would solve that problem. Also, what H:h tags? I had copied the formatting from the page the "redirect" pages that Wikipedia recommends and perhaps I forgot to delete that. Didn't notice and I will definitely not include it next time.

Lastly, I was given direct permission from the creator of the IWITTS "about" page to include that "about" information in the Wikipedia article, so I don't understand how it is a copyright infringement. I'm definitely not trying to do anything except write a page about IWITTS and their Executive Director, so any pointers (besides the "how to write an article" pages, because I've read those and I guess they didn't help) would be much appreciated.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richtercom (talk • contribs) 22:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Before I respond, let me note that you should sign all notes other than on main article pages with four tildes (~~~~), which Wikipedia will convert into your signature and the date and time. (The bot did it for you this time, but it won't always.)

I don't know how the master meta page came about, but it's connected with the {{H:h|something or other}} that you had on each page. I don't know where you picked that up from. I don't know what you mean by "redirect" pages that Wikipedia recommends. All you need to do to create an article is to type its title in the Search box and click Search, and then click the link on the page you come to that says "Create the article" or something like that.

As for permission to post copyrighted material, see the applicable rules at WP:Copyrights. The owner of the material must agree to release it in perpetuity under the terms of the WP:GFDL (which I think means that the IWITTS website must indicate that the GFDL is in effect) and to comply with those terms.

Finally, if you're doing this at the organization's behest, I want to draw your attention to WP:Advertising and WP:Conflict of interest. —Largo Plazo (talk) 22:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:

If you read this page, it will probably answer your questions. You may also find this page and this page helpful. Thingg^⊕⊗ 03:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Thingg^⊕⊗ 03:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Did you mean to leave this for someone else? I didn't ask any questions.—Largo Plazo (talk) 03:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Bagel-Day

not just a day people eat a lot of bagels its a time people learn to befriend there fellow Actor / techie created in 1975 for that very purpose it is upsetting that you feel it is vandalism it is a time honored tradition that many look forward to before every year we would have loved to be able to share that info with others through wiki but if you truly think that other should not know how much fun it is and how if need be they can have there theatre Tech Crew and Actor Get along better.

i would hope that you please reconsider people will be adding more info as we can

please respond with answers

sorry i put this on the wrong page before

TheBeatlesRebel (talk) 03:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Moved page

Thank you for your messages and thank you for removing the inocorrectly titles page - I don't know how to find it again except from the link in your message though. I am finding it very hard to find my way around. I would like to post the article for peer review but have not managed it yet.--Harveyevans (talk) 12:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

To see how something is done, you can always click the Edit tab on a page where someone else has done it to see how they did it. In this case, you're trying to create that link that I gave you. You need two square brackets on each side, like this: [[User:Harveyevans/Manuel Perucho]]. (As another example, if you click Edit on this page, you'll see that to make the brackets appear on the page instead of creating a link, I used <nowiki> and </nowiki> on either side, so the brackets wouldn't be given their special Wikipedia treatment. Then, to get these nowiki tags to appear in the text, I had to make yet another adjustment that you can see.) A single bracket on each side only works for links that begin with "http://". See Wikipedia:Editing#Links_and_URLs for more information on creating links.

Also, here's more information about user subpages.

As for peer review, you don't need it to create a main article. Just be sure your article is at least a suitable stub even if not yet a full article, and meets such criteria as notability, verifiability, and objectivity, and is supported by references from reliable sources. When you're ready, create the article (you can, for example, type Manuel Perucho in the Wikipedia Search box (or you can click this link: Manuel Perucho), and then click the "Create this page" link on the page that appears, and copy into it the Wiki code from your draft. People who patrol the new pages queue will give it the once-over, and will edit it or tag it for others to edit it if they see fit.—Largo Plazo (talk) 12:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Timmy Connolly: 2 entries

Thank you for your question.

My mistake. As a wikipedia neophyte, I tried to create an entry for Tim Connolly but was informed that name was not available. So I used his legal name instead, Timothy A. Connolly 3rd. After posting this entry, I was told by several people that they could not locate Timothy A. Connolly 3rd, so I posted another entry using his nickname, Timmy Connolly (mobster) with a link to the original entry.

Any help in fixing this would be appreciated.

truenorthrodTruenorthrod (talk) 18:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

If an article could reasonably be reached via more than one title, the thing to do is to write the article under one title, and then create the other pages as redirects. If you already wrote the article and then decide that it would have been better to put it under a different primary title, you can move it to the other title, which incidentally turns the original title into a redirect to the new one.—Largo Plazo (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)