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Revert on PHP Debug
Hi, just wanted to let you know that you've incorrectly restored an article that had been blanked by the author. As far as I understand, this can be taken as a request for deletion (which makes sense since the article has multiple issues). So I've re-blanked the article and added the db-author tag to it. Hope that's fine. Cheers, Laurent (talk) 18:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Andy Murray
What about saying something like "4 (guaranteed 3 on 11th May)". Maybe better worded than that though. Alan16 talk 17:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- The infobox needs to precise and specific in terms of information mentioned. In any case, until 11th May his ranking is going to be 4 and should be kept so. Change can be made thereon. LeaveSleaves 18:27, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'll put it back to four then. Alan16 talk 21:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Julian Myrick
Royalbroil 03:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Indian Grand Prix Article
Hey,
On the Indian Grand Prix article, you do realise the references you reverted back to are showing a 404 not found error, how are they reliable when they dont even exist ? --121.247.204.240 (talk) 16:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- The solution to the situation is to find another reliable source, as I have done now. LeaveSleaves 17:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, good. But one should also not be overzealous to revert edits without actually checking the earlier version first. Peace.--121.247.204.240 (talk) 07:53, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Dr. Seal Article
Dr. Seal has requested deletion
If you would like an email from Dr. Seal for verification, please indicate where it should be sent.
DYK for Niladri Kumar
rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 04:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Barnstars
I want one :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChilliSauce59 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Merapi
Ta for that - hope it gets the idea or it might be one of the compulsed gotta get blocked ones :( SatuSuro 13:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- No problem, happy to help. LeaveSleaves 14:04, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Phew both sequential numbered IPS got blocked - always a relief to see there are dedicated warners :( SatuSuro 14:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
HMS Penelope
you took the hms penelope tribute video link of the wiki site the video is my own and has information on the ship http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAhiVP8T5hU&feature=channel_page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsie100 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- The link you are adding is unacceptable under WP:EL. LeaveSleaves 14:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
sorry its just that the ship means a whole lot to my family the video is a tribute to the crew but if its unacceptable its ok thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsie100 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
merseyrail
hey, sorry. i didn't think that would actually appear. isn't there a filter? anyway i changed back the edit before mine which was wrong. 86.142.68.76 (talk) 14:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
professional
why did you revert my edit ? the page is really dreadful, it starts with a specific definitions of a specific meaning from a single country and goes downhill from there. My edit was succinct and accurate and IMO a very good place to restart 92.25.206.105 (talk) 15:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- I assume you are referring to this reversion. You edit was far too specific in terms of describing the generalized criteria. Moreover you entered an example with no cite present regarding occurrence and significance such an event. LeaveSleaves 17:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- sorry I complained to the wrong person :-) 92.25.206.105 (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
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User page
Thanks for the reversion. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 22:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
2009 sony ericsson open
Hi mate, I would be willing to help with the page. I have already submitted the 2009 Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters article for Peer Review and the main thing I needed to do was add more references. Let me know what you want me to do. 03md 18:22, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- Since you have made significant progress with 2009 Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters, I think we should focus on that first while simultaneously expanding 2009 Sony Ericsson Open. As for citations, I'll fish around and try to gather more. I'll post those on the article talk page or insert them into the article's right away. LeaveSleaves 18:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
DYK for The Terminator Decoupling
Royalbroil 05:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Fake IPL Player Nicknames
There is a rule called Ignore All Rules Rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules) that is really important. I don't think that mentioning the nicknames with the names actually violate the BLP rule. But even if it does, this is a very important part of the discussion, and for the sake of improving the page, must be maintained. I have undone your deletion. --Ant80 (talk) 19:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
- I've responded on the article's talk page. LeaveSleaves 19:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Would you be interested in joining this project? We need more editors who share a burden for rescuing promising editors who have gotten into serious trouble because of behavioral issues. IF (a fundamental condition!) they are interested in reforming and adapting to our standards of conduct, and are also willing to abide by our policies and guidelines, rather than constantly subverting them, we can offer to help them return to Wikipedia as constructive editors. Right now many if not most users who have been banned are still active here, but they are here as socks or anonymous IPs who may or may not be constructive. We should offer them a proper way to return. If you think this is a good idea, please join us. Abce2|AccessDenied 04:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Stapedectomy Article
I agree with your prior spamming deletion and it seems that the spammer has a personal interest in this post given the reaction. I'm all for a more thorough article which would include the Lippy info, but see it as inappropriate to overstate the contribution seemingly for the purpose of adding a web link. The tone in the discussion leads me to touching base with you as someone with more experience in these issue and ask, What's the best way to clean up the article? 158.93.190.31 (talk) 14:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
- I just checked work done by Lippy and it appears that he has significant contribution in the field. I'm not an expert on this subject and the reason I removed the content earlier was because I felt that it was added for promotional purposes. But my suggestion, since you asked for it, is to tone down the information to a more neutral manner, move it from the lead to the body of the article and include the link in the external link section since it seems to be helpful (Although, I could not access the link myself because I have some problem with my internet connection. Make sure you check it out before keeping it). Hope this helps. LeaveSleaves 15:05, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Invitation
Hello, I noticed you've made edits to University of the Philippines (UP) and UP–related articles and thought you might want to support our recent proposal to create the WikiProject University of the Philippines. We've recently revamped the proposal and started a drive to push the approval of this project. We have a lot of articles that may be under this project and we would like assistance and support for its approval. Hope we'll have a very positive response. Go Fighting Maroons!
P.S. You can look at the preliminary drafts of the project in here. Thanks!--The Wandering TravelerWIKIPROJECT UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT! 04:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
2009 Sony Ericsson Open
Hey LeaveSleaves, thanks for your note. I'll do my best to give you a review in the next day or two, and I'm more than happy to help you push the article on to GA/FA or whatever. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I took my time but...
...I've left you some comments at the peer review... Hope they help! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
French Open
Hi, Are you planning on applying your article layout to the French Open article after the tournament has finished, as people have started adding day-by-day summaries? 03md 19:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well, plans are to apply the new layout to every possible article, but I'm not sure how easy it would be to an article of an ongoing tournament. I guess what we can do is keep moving day by day information to sub articles and ask editors add it there instead of the main article. LeaveSleaves 04:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was wondering what you thought about inclusion of the tournament category and location in the infobox for tournaments, as happens in the French wikipedia tennis articles, for example on the equivalent French article for the Miami tournament. I have added a parameter into the infobox for Category, which now appears on all tennis articles. Fr:Modèle:Infobox Tournoi de tennis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 03md (talk • contribs) 12:40, 25 May, 2009 (UTC)
- I think that would be a very helpful addition. After all infobox is intended to include basic information about the tournament. LeaveSleaves 12:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Do you know how to make the parameters optional on the template and, if so, could you make the location and category parameters optional on this template. 03md 13:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Done. I've also updated the documentation and applied same changes to {{TennisEventInfo2}}. LeaveSleaves 14:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Do you know how to make the parameters optional on the template and, if so, could you make the location and category parameters optional on this template. 03md 13:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think that would be a very helpful addition. After all infobox is intended to include basic information about the tournament. LeaveSleaves 12:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- I was wondering what you thought about inclusion of the tournament category and location in the infobox for tournaments, as happens in the French wikipedia tennis articles, for example on the equivalent French article for the Miami tournament. I have added a parameter into the infobox for Category, which now appears on all tennis articles. Fr:Modèle:Infobox Tournoi de tennis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 03md (talk • contribs) 12:40, 25 May, 2009 (UTC)
12 Squadron
Hi. The You Tube clip was of a film made non-commercially by the UK Central Office of Information, a government agency. I presume the film's purpose was to educate the public about the role of the Armed Forces, and as the final credits clearly show, was made with aircraft and crews of 12 Squadron. The link was placed precisely where it was in the text because it featured a Martel anti-shipping missile being fired from a 12 Squadron aircraft, and the reference in the pre-existing text to Martel was unsourced. It seemed entirely appropriate to me. 86.146.192.250 (talk) 17:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Linking to videos on YouTube is generally disallowed. See Wikipedia policy on external links, particularly section about linking to YouTube like sites. LeaveSleaves 17:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- OK. Understood. Ta for the advice. 86.145.69.94 (talk) 15:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Tennis bio template
I think I'm done with this template. Most parameters are now optional. Testing and viewing in actual articles appears that there's no issues. If you run into anything out in Wikiland on tennis player related articles, fix it or let me know. Cheers. - ALLST✰R▼echo wuz here @ 05:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Huggle
Please exercise greater caution when using Huggle - [1] is a good faith attempt to improve coverage, rather than the vandalism Huggle seems to think it is. Thank you. --Malkinann (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- It did not appear to me as a good faith attempt at the time, but if it was then I apologize for the revert. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. LeaveSleaves 17:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- There are a few times when a good faith edit is ALLCAPS, and one of them is when describing shouting. If you wish to apologise, it's not me who you should be apologising to - it's the person behind the IP that left it. --Malkinann (talk) 20:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Merci!
Thanks for the clean up of my user page, was some nasty vandalism Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. LeaveSleaves 17:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Vandalizm
hey I was not the one who vandalized the Galatasaray S.K.'s page. I'm not interested in sports and I don't like football. Can someone else use my IP adress; is it possible? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.233.116.177 (talk) 19:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- It is possible that your ISP uses dynamic allocation IP addresses and thus the IP address you are using is used by others previously. If you haven't made those edits, just ignore those messages. To avoid getting any such messages or blocks addressed to other users of the IP, you can consider opening a user account. LeaveSleaves 19:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Admin
Are you an admin, because if you are not, you should be. Wireless Keyboard Click! Clack! 13:04, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words. And no, I'm not an admin. LeaveSleaves 13:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Confused here
I use wikipedia mainly for help with university work, I very rarely make any edits, and those I do are normally corrections of spelling mistakes. However, I just turned my computer on, opened IE and went to wikipedia and found that I have new messages accusing me of vandalism.....I only just turned my computer on....and why would I vandalise an article.....144.32.155.203 (talk) 13:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
actually, dont worry, I have just read the whole of the page in a bit more detail....I think I may create an account.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.32.155.203 (talk) 13:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Note
Dear "LeaveSleaves"...Just wanted to apologize for temporarily "vandalizing" the Tony Danza page a few days ago. I am training teachers how to use Wikipedia as an educational tool and I wanted to assure them that edits are monitored vigorously, as mine was by you. The demo helped. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.127.42 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Your user page
Hey. Have you ever thought of semi-protecting your user page? Given this page history, it sounds like kinda good idea IMHO. :) — Aitias // discussion 13:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I don't think it's that bad a situation. It usually gets vandalized a couple of times when I'm using Huggle (which is about an hour per day), but I think that's a given when fighting vandalism. Thanks for the suggestion though. LeaveSleaves 13:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
RE: My user page
Your so welcome :-), keep up the good work MaenK.A.Talk 14:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Help offered with improving Roger Federer Article
Thanks very much for your help. I'll be adding to the article here and there (mainly to the 'Career in the ATP' section) so please give the additions a look over if you have the time and mention anything that I can improve on in the future. Bittersweetsmile (talk) 21:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Roger Federer article: Reduce references to records?
I have noticed that in the later years there are a lot of references to records he set e.g. "Simon became just the second man to defeat Federer in the round robin stage of the Tennis Masters Cup." or the first time he has does something: "Federer lost in the semifinals to American Mardy Fish for the first time, thus ending his 41-match winning streak against American players dating back to August 2003". Shouldn't these be cut down to just the really significant ones? (e.g. Federer became the first player in tennis history to have five consecutive wins at both Wimbledon and the US Open)
I also think: "At the US Open, Federer reached the fourth round without dropping a set. There, he defeated Russian Igor Andreev 6–7(5), 7–6(5), 6–3, 3–6, 6–3. In the quarterfinals, he defeated Gilles Müller in straight sets and then, in a rematch of the 2007 US Open final, he topped third-seeded Djokovic in the semifinals 6–3, 5–7, 7–5, 6–2. On a Monday final, he defeated Murray 6–2, 7–5, 6–2 to win his 13th Grand Slam title and his fifth straight US Open title and extended his US Open winning streak to 34 matches.[74] Federer became the first player in tennis history to have five consecutive wins at both Wimbledon and the US Open.[75][76]" can be cut down to just the Monday final.
Lastly there are a number of commentaries on tournaments (like the one above) that could be cut down to just the final's result. I hesitate to do this because the matches described are significant ones (and numberous) but cutting out the commentaries would make the article less bulky.
Thanks and sorry for the long comment!, Bittersweetsmile (talk) 09:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, cutting down the commentary/opinions is the major idea behind answering the "fancruft" tag of the article. Reducing the tournaments to Federer's final result would be ideal, although do not ignore if there was any major match during his progress in the tournament. As for the first paragraph of your post, I agree that those sentence are a bit too specific for Federer's articles and are perhaps more suited for Simon's and Fish's articles respectively. LeaveSleaves 10:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Anne Minter
Thanks for looking at the article. It was a bit surprising to me how extensively the editor worked on the article even though he had a fixation about a certain unsourced item. One does not normally see that. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Roger Federer article: Merge Early life and Personal Life
I was looking at 'Marcus Trescothick', which is a featured article. It has both Early life and Personal life as one section. I think merging the equivalent sections in the Federer article would be a beneficial change. I'll start a new one for his Junior Tennis. Just wanted to pass it by you first before I do this relatively 'major' change. Cheers,Bittersweetsmile (talk) 10:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Under "Early life", there are usually the details about how the player started playing the sport, his training etc. Playing in junior tournaments can be either part of this section or "Career" section. "Personal life" on the other hand is (obviously) about player's family etc. That's the reason it is usually separated from early life. While merging the sections, make sure you take these things into account. LeaveSleaves 12:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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Fancruft discussion on Federer article
I don't know whether you saw my responce to ROxBo's comment about deleting the fancruft - I think the page has been improved considerably. Can it be deleted by people other than the editorial team? Cheers, Bittersweetsmile (talk) 20:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- The tag can be removed by anyone, but the issue in the tag needs to be addressed or some proper explanation for its removal should be given (you can read WP:Tagging for more on this). The problem of fancruft still lies severely in the years 2007, 2008 and 2009. I know it seems like I'm edit warring over keeping the tag, but I feel that there is no need to push for it even if it is appropriate. The intention is to trim the article and that can happen whether the tag remains there or not. LeaveSleaves 21:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- That seems sensible to me, was just interested as to Wikipedia etiquette. Bittersweetsmile (talk) 21:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
please read the first new discussion i atemted to re-start
After attempting to restart the discussion the other user launched into a verbal; tirade attacking me, which I think is out of order any where except a user talk page, and then even that is debatable. Please see both sides before commenting, I strongly believe I am maintaining consensus and so does the other user.--Lucy-marie (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've been following all the discussions closely. I'm a regular member at WP:F1 and was significant part of last flag discussion. As much as the last decision did not have my support, I accepted the community's consensus. If you are genuine about overthrowing that consensus, I suggest you stop editing flags form F1 related articles and resort only to discussion. LeaveSleaves 19:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Federer article: Federer-Nadal Rivalry
Hi again; I hope you had a good holiday! I had the idea that the Federer-Nadal rivalry section of the Roger Federer article should have the following addition: after "Nadal leads their overall head-to-head series 13-7" I would put "However, it is interesting to note that excluding their meetings on clay, Nadal's best surface, it is Federer who leads by 5-4." I thought that this puts their rivalry in context. I did make this change after discussion with another editor but it has been reverted by 'FedFan55' (who doesn't have a user page). I just wanted to know whether you think the addition is a good one and, if so, how I should proceed in asking 'FedFan55' not to revert it again. If not I'll leave it! Cheers, Bittersweetsmile (talk) 15:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid your edit was not so good in the aspect of neutrality. It seems improper to point out that Nadal is behind on one of the surfaces. And that's why I did not revert FedFan55's removal of it. However, I had an idea as to how this can be handled. You can add rivalry standings for all the surfaces (hard, grass and clay) thereby giving them an equal weight. Also, make sure you say this simply and neutrally without any synthesis i.e. without use of words such as "interesting" or "Nadal's best surface" etc. LeaveSleaves 16:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes I had similar reservations myself: [[2]]. Good idea though- saved again! Thanks, Bittersweetsmile (talk) 16:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Nole image in Infobox Bad?
I think we could find a better image for him to have in the infobox, instead of a serving motion. TennisAuthority 23:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I have changed it. Should you feel you need more choices you can find them at commons:Category:Novak Đoković. LeaveSleaves 04:10, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
CamM321
I cant get the image to work. i tryed everying! and i dont wana try it again because i dont want to get kicked off Wiki. :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by CamM321 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- You are currently using the direct url of the image. You will need to upload that image on Wikipedia by going to Wikipedia:Upload. Follow the instructions on that page and you would be fine. In your case the type of image would be "logo of an organization". Also it is a good to see that you are trying things out in the Wikipedia:Sandbox. That way you can make the final edit when you get things right. LeaveSleaves 13:53, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, Thank you so much for your help, Ill try that now. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by CamM321 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Federer article: What to cut out?
As you have pointed out some of the career sections are too chunky in the Federer article. What I feel we need is a policy (obviously flexible) on what should be kept (or even added) and what can be omitted. I was thinking of something along these lines:
- Included
Significant matches: Grandslam finals, rivalry matches, significant opposition, career-making matches, record-making, tournaments which he has won
- Excluded
Set results: except 5 set epics or if it was a significant 3 set match (e.g. not dropping a set in a grandslam final), relatively insignificant matches (e.g. If he only got to the quarterfinals of a smaller ATP tournament and lost to an obscure player are the results worth including, anything non-ATP.
These are obviously just my suggestions so I wanted your opinion because of your experience, skills and the fact you seem to be pretty up to speed on this article! Cheers, Bittersweetsmile (talk) 18:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think you are more or less spot-on in terms what needs to be included! In terms of rivalry matches, I suppose those with Nadal may not need much description, with a separate article already present. However, you can't ignore the ones like 2008 Wimbledon final. LeaveSleaves 19:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Open Era Not Pointless?
On the Steffi Graf page, someone pointed out that fact that Court had more slams than graf but I told them you said open era is pointless, which is not because some records will be different and go and look at the grand slam pages for that fact! I think open era should stay! TennisAuthority 17:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- If in fact it is pointless, then Rene Lacoste would have made the most consecutive French Finals and Decusis would have made the most victories, which would have erased those off of the Lendl, Nadal, Federer, and Borg records: therefore, it must be prefaced with Open Era even if the player only played during the open era! TennisAuthority 17:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I get your point. My objection stems from the redundant mention in the section title "Open Era Records" on the player's page when all the records s/he has are in the Open Era. This gives a weird feeling that the player might have records prior to the open era. I think a better way to do this is to add a small note such as "These records refer to Open Era of tennis", at the beginning or end of the section. Putting it in the section title seems confusing. LeaveSleaves 17:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I agree we need to put it in their somewhere, but it does not matter to me where, I was just putting it their because it was easier. We can do what you advised! TennisAuthority 17:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- All good then! I think this format can be used for all the pages. For the Pre-Open era players, we can say "These records were attained prior to the Open Era of tennis". LeaveSleaves 17:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I agree we need to put it in their somewhere, but it does not matter to me where, I was just putting it their because it was easier. We can do what you advised! TennisAuthority 17:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I get your point. My objection stems from the redundant mention in the section title "Open Era Records" on the player's page when all the records s/he has are in the Open Era. This gives a weird feeling that the player might have records prior to the open era. I think a better way to do this is to add a small note such as "These records refer to Open Era of tennis", at the beginning or end of the section. Putting it in the section title seems confusing. LeaveSleaves 17:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Changed Box Name!
What do you think of it now!TennisAuthority 22:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Player navbox templates
Has User:TennisAuthority talked with you at all about changing the succession boxes into templates? I find this an odd thing to do for content that is designed for a single page?...and they are quickly hitting a number of articles... I have asked them to discuss on the project's talk page. -- Mjquin_id (talk) 23:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- TennisAuthority put in the question at Talk:Roger Federer to which I posted my comments. I see now that discussion as started at WT:Tennis. Let us continue it there. LeaveSleaves 05:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Picture important as ajit jogi ji vehicle accident was done by Palestine Liberation Organization in India.
Osama Bin Laden is a civil engineer by proffession and belongs to the Laden family assigned the task of religious construction in Mecca and Medina -the shrine of Muslim caste.He is a criminal wanted around the globe for the persecution of millions of innocent God fearing people as well as breaking their places of worship.He is also the mastermind behind Organized crime in India and America -what is symbolic to Arabian petrol and vehicles run by them-CARLOS THE KILLER.He was the mastermind behind the assassination of Kennedy family-starting from- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy on a muslim religiously significant date ,for criminal intidimation of the masses as is written in their Koran:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Qur'an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_extremist_terrorism
(008.012 YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." PICKTHAL: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. SHAKIR: When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organization
Statements made by members of the PLO
On fighting against Israel: "We plan to eliminate the state of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian state. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion... We Palestinians will take over everything, including all of Jerusalem ." -- Yasser Arafat, Chairman of the PLO (in front of an Arab audience in Stockholm in 1996)
"Whoever thinks of stopping the uprising before it achieves its goals, I will give him ten bullets in the chest." --Yasser Arafat, Chairman of the PLO
“John Fitzgerald "Jack" Kennedy (May 29, 1917 – November 22, 1963), often referred to by his initials JFK, was the 35th President of the United States, serving from 1961 until his assassination in 1963.”
Islam started in 622- so 22 number was used.
As India is a world power and Kennedy had vowed to eliminate organized crime along with Nehruji of India ,both were killed on religiously significant dates-22 and 27.Islamic terrorism was fought over by Chattrapati Shivaji in India and his birth date is 1627.so number 27 was used.Both was for criminal intidimation.The Builder mafis in India along with many corporates are in league with this crime especially against women and children,as women are the upkeepers of religion and culture in a household in India.It is not new as General Dyer (symbolic to men who dye their hair and get married in old age to convert to Islam,subsequently Arya Samaj in India) ,on 13th April 1919 ,had killed many people in the well of Jallian wala bagh in Amritsar.This crime is patent of the Britishers who came to India as East India company ,and the country was betrayed by the menial class as well as people who use them for money-the Banias and Jains-merchant class.
Ajit jogi’s car accident was in league with this list of crimes and it would be relevant to let these images remain for the welfare of humanity. Mamta dhody (talk) 06:27, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- Irrespective of this ridiculous rant, the image is a copyright violation and thus should not be included. LeaveSleaves 06:34, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- How naive a person can be-I have quoted your own wikipedia pages that you take so much pride in deleting.What have you added?What are your own contributions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mamta dhody (talk • contribs) 06:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- Again, stick to the issue. I am not interested in your original research or synthesis. Those images are unacceptable. LeaveSleaves 06:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- How naive a person can be-I have quoted your own wikipedia pages that you take so much pride in deleting.What have you added?What are your own contributions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mamta dhody (talk • contribs) 06:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
That was my mistake for blanking my old page using my new ID. Jlg3926 (talk) 13:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. I realized that a moment later and reverted my edits. LeaveSleaves 14:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Fort Abraham Lincoln
Hi LeaveSleaves! I understand the removal of the link to YouTube videos from "Fort Abraham Lincoln" as a possible copyright issue. I was just wondering why you reverted my other edits as well, though. The current page contains numerous factual errors and grammatical errors, and on the discussion page one can see that the Military histor WikiProject considers it a stub-class article, while WikiProject North Dakota rates it as a Start-Class. Is it because my improvements needed citations (I'm unfortunatly outside the U.S. and have very little access to the literature on the subject), or did you think discussion was first necessary for these changes? Gooseterrain (talk) 14:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I only removed your addition of Youtube link since it fails WP:EL. It was an earlier edit by XLinkBot that removed your other additions. In any case, you can add them again and it'd be a better practice to add sources. If you have problem accessing sources, you can consider posting on the article's or relevant Wikiproject's talk page requesting other editors to help you with sources. LeaveSleaves 14:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info! Sorry for thinking you had made the changes to the content. . . I actually somehow thought it was the other way around. Apparently XLinkBot is a program that automatically removes content that could be vandalism. I'll try to reverse the changes and add the best footnotes I can manage from here next time I get the chance. Excellent suggestion regarding requesting help from other editors with the sources. I may even be able to recomment specific books that should have the info. Thanks! Gooseterrain (talk) 20:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Glad I could help. LeaveSleaves 23:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info! Sorry for thinking you had made the changes to the content. . . I actually somehow thought it was the other way around. Apparently XLinkBot is a program that automatically removes content that could be vandalism. I'll try to reverse the changes and add the best footnotes I can manage from here next time I get the chance. Excellent suggestion regarding requesting help from other editors with the sources. I may even be able to recomment specific books that should have the info. Thanks! Gooseterrain (talk) 20:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
HMS Penelope photo
i uploaded a photo of the hms penelope and her crew the photo is free to the public but it seems not to have uploaded right how long should i give for it to appear on the page before trying to upload it again and also i will edit the force k page with more details on force k and there missions and battles tonight —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsie100 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
hms penelope photo
it was sent to me by a member of the hms neptune assoiation its on there site so i dont think its copy righted its i think its from the book about the penelope but i have another without the wording the next photo cant be copy righted as it is a war photo and its been in my family for years and is public domian thanks for your help im trying to get the hms penelope wiki page as is why im spending so much time adding stuff about force k the penelope and neptune ive been doing so much research on these ships thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsie100 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Threatening me with deletion! I think NOT!
I am going to work on them in due time, but if they get deleted, I will just re-create them again! No Problemo! I am adding a little bit of prose but not so much as to take away from the table in the next couple of days. TennisAuthority 05:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not threatening you, I'm telling what's going to happen and advising you to work on them before it's late. And one is already under discussion without my intervention. Recreating them in the fashion you are creating them now isn't going to help. Consider developing them in your userspace before putting them into mainspace. LeaveSleaves 06:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- What is userspace is it sandbox? I will save the wikitables to my hard disk drive and get to them when I can!TennisAuthority 19:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Create a page in your userspace like User:TennisAuthority/Sandbox. Now you can add all the information you want in the article's prose along with necessary wikisyntax such as tables etc. Once you are satisfied that the article is developed enough to meet Wikipedia's standards, you can move it or just copy-paste into mainspace under desired title. This way you avoid possible deletion notification and the article is presented in a more mature fashion. LeaveSleaves 19:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank You So Much For Helping Me, I am just tried of fight the rat race on wikipedia if you know what I mean! I have put the tables on a Sandbox page, which you can check-out at User:TennisAuthority/Sandbox 4 Rivalry Boxes!TennisAuthority 19:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- I will still leave those up until someone thinks they need to be deleted, which I will leave the rivalries up on WP:Tennis, which will be their for discussion of each. Plus, you can add to them if you think another rivalry is of merit!TennisAuthority 19:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- What really needs to be about rivalry pages is create prose and justify why those rivalries are significant. Not everyone is tennis follower and an article should be self-sufficient in explaining the subject matter. Lack of this would be the primary reason why such articles would be nominated for deletion. And at the same time, when creating a rivalry page, do a self evaluation not based on personal perception but perception of critics etc. whether that rivalry is truly notable enough to justify a separate article. LeaveSleaves 19:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- I am going to do some work with some Tennis Historians like Bud Collins to solve this, and I am going to go and buy his encyclopedia on Tennis, which I will use in writing some articles on here with some web reference in the next couple of weeks and maybe a month! I think prose is ok, but must be limited in terms of subjective content and must be all objective! I put all my stuff their to save it in case of deletion, which I have worked hard on! TennisAuthority 20:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- That's a good strategy. I'm glad you understand what I was trying to convey. Should any of the existing articles go for deletion, pay attention to what delete voters are objecting to and try and address them when recreating such articles. LeaveSleaves 20:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- This is the last post I ever make on wikipedia, I will miss you! You can do those pages or not, which I am tired of taking so much crap for creating new content that gets abbliderated by others', which is not just this project it is others like Golf, Politics and others'! Good Bye and Good Life! From TennisAuthority —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.44.215 (talk) 23:05, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- That's a good strategy. I'm glad you understand what I was trying to convey. Should any of the existing articles go for deletion, pay attention to what delete voters are objecting to and try and address them when recreating such articles. LeaveSleaves 20:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- I am going to do some work with some Tennis Historians like Bud Collins to solve this, and I am going to go and buy his encyclopedia on Tennis, which I will use in writing some articles on here with some web reference in the next couple of weeks and maybe a month! I think prose is ok, but must be limited in terms of subjective content and must be all objective! I put all my stuff their to save it in case of deletion, which I have worked hard on! TennisAuthority 20:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- What really needs to be about rivalry pages is create prose and justify why those rivalries are significant. Not everyone is tennis follower and an article should be self-sufficient in explaining the subject matter. Lack of this would be the primary reason why such articles would be nominated for deletion. And at the same time, when creating a rivalry page, do a self evaluation not based on personal perception but perception of critics etc. whether that rivalry is truly notable enough to justify a separate article. LeaveSleaves 19:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- I will still leave those up until someone thinks they need to be deleted, which I will leave the rivalries up on WP:Tennis, which will be their for discussion of each. Plus, you can add to them if you think another rivalry is of merit!TennisAuthority 19:41, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank You So Much For Helping Me, I am just tried of fight the rat race on wikipedia if you know what I mean! I have put the tables on a Sandbox page, which you can check-out at User:TennisAuthority/Sandbox 4 Rivalry Boxes!TennisAuthority 19:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- Create a page in your userspace like User:TennisAuthority/Sandbox. Now you can add all the information you want in the article's prose along with necessary wikisyntax such as tables etc. Once you are satisfied that the article is developed enough to meet Wikipedia's standards, you can move it or just copy-paste into mainspace under desired title. This way you avoid possible deletion notification and the article is presented in a more mature fashion. LeaveSleaves 19:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- What is userspace is it sandbox? I will save the wikitables to my hard disk drive and get to them when I can!TennisAuthority 19:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Deleting my Big Bang Theory section
I understand why you have deleted my section and I believe you were right to do so. I just wanted to say that out loud after having thought it for so long. At least one person read it, even if they deleted it.--BigBang616 (talk) 04:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
ISC
?! I don't really understand your comments on my talk page, so I guess we may be talking at cross purposes. My point is that we are discussing whether flags for nationality should be included in results tables for F1 races. You seemed to me to be suggesting that since drivers don't really compete for a nationality, and can pick which nationality they drive for, that nationality was irrelevant. Since neither of those things are true for F1, your argument (as I understood it) doesn't hold up. To put it another way in F1 it is not possible, under any circumstances, "that a driver of one nationality can compete representing another country". I apologise if I misunderstood you. In general I'm in favour of reducing the number of flags, but I think for teams and drivers they remain relevant, if hardly the most important thing. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 20:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
2010 British Grand Prix
If I could request some assistance please? --Falcadore (talk) 11:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- I am keeping the page on my watchlist. I'm a little busy in real life till the end of this month, but will put in all the help possible. If we face too much disruption by IPs, I think a deletion request may not be such a bad idea. LeaveSleaves 19:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
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The Windler talk 04:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Andy Murray edit war
Thanks for reporting me. Unless they are insane, which I sincerely doubt is the case, they should see the self-evident fact of the situation; that Murray is British. Also, thank you for referring me to the legal page - the key aspect of it is this: "If you must take legal action, we cannot prevent you from doing so." I will not renege on my promise to do so, should you further violate my right to edit Wikipedia.
I suggest you read the page Fact, it will help hugely in your future edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NeroAxis (talk • contribs) 15:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC))
- Your right to edit Wikipedia freely depends on you following Wikipedia policies and guideline. And you should consider that if you are being reverted and told by multiple editors that your edits are unacceptable, it's only civil to discuss on the article's talk page instead of continuing the edit war. LeaveSleaves 15:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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