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• • • thanks, i agree. No need Galyamov, because right version Gallyamov—

Salawat Gallyamov Салава́т Галля́мов
File:S gallyamov.jpg Salawat Gallyamov
Personal details
Born	(1959-12-24)24 December 1959 Ufa, Bashkir Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, USSR
Died	5 September 2018(2018-09-05) (aged 58) Ufa, Republic of Bashkortostan, Russian Federation
Nationality	Bashkir
Profession	Linguist

Salawat Abdrakhmanovich Gallyamov (December 24, 1959, Ufa, Bashkir ASSR – September 5, 2018, Ufa, Republic of Bashkortostan) is a linguist, researcher, supporter of the theory of the Turanian origin of the Bashkir people. Gallyamov himself uses the shape of the 'bashkord' for the name of the people. He is known for his research in the field of the epics and myths of the peoples of Eurasia and the connections and linguistic parallels of the Bashkir language with some ancient and modern languages of the world.

Research activities

In 1998, for the first time in the history of science of the Republic of Bashkortostan, Gallyamov organized a conference in the Bashkir State University "Comparative Linguistics".

Salawat Gallyamov was a defender of archaeological monuments in the territory of Bashkortostan. Since 2000 Salawat Gallyamov has collaborated with the Russian Academy of Sciences of St. Petersburg and with some foreign scientists.

Based on the hypothesis of the Turanian origin of the Bashkir people, which Gallyamov refers to as "Bashkord" in his works, and on the comparison of the Bashkir mythology with the ancient texts of the Indo-Iranians (the Rig-Veda, Upanishad, Avesta) and the philosophical treatises of the ancient thinkers (Plato, Plotinus, Proclus) Salavat Gallyamov offers a reconstruction of the Bashkir mythology, philosophy and language.

Confirmations of Gallyamov's hypotheses

He pointed out the vestiges of Zoroastrian customs among the Bashkirs. In particular, the Zoroastrian custom of five-fold girdling in the epic "Ural-batir".

False evidence of hypotheses and shortcomings of Gallyamov's works

Tense and fictional ethnic kinship of the Kurds and Bashkirs, by comparing the ethnonyms "Kurd" and "Bashkort" (note 'bashkort (bashqort)' – native name of Bashkirs).

Artificial ignoring about Altai (Turkic-Mongolian) and Ural (Finno-Ugric) ethnic substrates in the ethnogenesis of the Bashkirs. Racial prejudice S. Gallyamov in favor of the eurocentric approach in history, as a consequence of subjectivism in the works. Unwillingness and inability to work with references to other authors.

Interesting hypotheses of Gallyamov

Comparison of parallels between the history of Sumer and the epic "Ural batir"

• Ur-Nammu is the ruler of the III Ur dynasty, the Urals is the main hero of the epic "Ural-batir".
• Shulgi is the son of Ur-Nammu, Shulgan is the brother of the Ural.
• Ur-Nammu, along with his people built to water canals, and the hero Ural along with his sons gave rise to rivers.
• Ur-Nammu gave the code of laws, hero Ural leaves a body of laws.
• Zarikum is the satrap of Shulgi, Zarkum is Shulgan's adviser.
• Bursuen, Bur-Sin (Buryjan) – son of Shulgi, grandson of Ur-Nammu, Burzyan (Burian) – the name of the Bashkir tribe, where the epic "Ural-batir" was recorded.
• Ria Kahkakha – the name of the Milky Way among the peoples of Mesopotamia, Kahkakha – the heavenly dragon, in the epic "Ural batir"
• Mitanni is the name of the nationality and the country, in Northern Mesopotamia, Moyten (desperado) – the descendants of Mitanni, the name of one of the Bashkir tribes.
• Kuti – "people who own bulls", Katil – the king, in the epic "Ural-batir" possessing a bull.
• Haband (pray, hub – grain), Habantuy (feast of the plow of the Bashkirs).

Interesting comparisons of the geography of the Avesta with the toponymy of the Southern Urals

• The Daiti River (Dayikh), the Yaik River (modern river Ural)
• Var Yima, Arkaim – a monument of the protogorodic archeological sintashta culture.
• Iranavezh (Airyanem Vaejah), Irandek is the name of the ridge of the Southern Urals. Literally, in the opinion of S.Gallyamov: Irandek is an "Iranian hill, a mountain".
• Burzen, Borzen, Hara Berezaiti, Buryjan, Burzyan – the name of the Bashkir tribe - Buryjan (Burzyan), living at the ridge of Irandek.

Books

• Эпосу «Урал-батыр» — 4 тысячи лет Уфа, ж-л «Шонкар», 1996
• Великий Хау Бен. Уфа, Госкомнауки РБ, 1997
• Башкорды от Гильгамеша до Заратуштры. Уфа, РИО РУМНЦ РБ, ISBN 5-295-03513-1 : 1000, 1998
• Введение в сопоставительное изучение грамматики башкордского, кордского и английского языков. Уфа, РИО РУМНЦ РБ, 1999
• Кордско-Башкордско-Англо-Русский словарь. Уфа, РИО РУМНЦ РБ, 2000
• Основы Башкордской Индо-Германской философии, 2001–2003. В 4-х томах: Онтология, Гносеология.
• Башкордский язык и санскрит. М., СПб, 2003. 308 с.
• Башкордская философия. В 4 томах. Уфа: Китап, 2005. ISBN 5-295-03698-7
• Древние арии и вечный Курдистан. (Серия «Тайны древних цивилизаций») - М.: Вече. 2007 г., Твердый переплет, 555 стр. ISBN 978-9533-1407-7 Тираж: 3000 экз.

References

Category:Linguists of Turkic languages Category:1959 births Category:2018 deaths Category:Bashkir scientists Category:History of Ural Category:Bashkir language

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//// Firstly, yoga does not begin and does not end with India, and all the more so does it not boil down to just Patanjali alone.

Yoga was long before the Indo-Aryans, for example, in the Harappan civilization.

In addition to Indian yoga, there is Tibetan yoga, Chinese yoga, and so on.

As for Turan yoga, this is a legacy of Turanian tribes. Turanian yoga was also in India, after it was inhabited by Saka tribes.

Secondly, just in the academic edition of Science, by Dolin and Popov's book "Kempo - a tradition of martial arts" was published, which mentions yoga of wrestling.

Notice, this book "Kempo..." was published in the academic edition - 'Science'.

https://i.livelib.ru/boocover/1000546915/200/75f0/__Kempo__traditsiya_voinskih_iskusstv.jpg

Do you want so that yoga is called only what you know about yoga?

Thirdly, it is very unfortunate that you formed the opinion that you are an expert in yoga.

I recommend you, to research and study psychophysical trainings from different nations of the world, including those related to Indian yoga.

In the fourth - the primary translation of the term yoga is a connection. You forgot about this connection.

And the last - if you do not know about different areas of yoga, this does not mean that they are not. In the world have diverging directions of yoga not related to the Patanjali tradition. It's different practices.

Turan yoga is taught in yoga-clubs, but you don’t know anything about it. You know only a traditional Patanjali yoga system. So far, it is clear that you are a very biased expert on yoga. I wish - Good practice for you. Magyar from Ural (talk) 03:08, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, the editors at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turan yoga did not see reliable, secondary source coverage in the article to warrant keeping it. I didn't participate beyond judging that they were in agreement (consensus). If you'd like to change their minds, you have to provide sourcing that they did not see. As far as I can tell, none of the discussants claimed to be "an expert in yoga". czar 04:08, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Magyar from Ural, you will see that I have proposed the deletion both of your article about "Sampra yoga" and of the image it contains. The article is wholly unsourced, but more importantly it is a Content Fork (an article about the same subject) of Ashtanga (eight limbs of yoga), which covers the same ground but is properly cited to Reliable Sources. That article actually already contains an image of the eight limbs of yoga, performing the same function as your "Sampra yoga" image. Your image appears to have been copied or crudely modified from an existing copyrighted image, so your license claim "Own work" is untrue at least for the background graphics, whether or not you added the foreground text labels. Such an image is obviously not permitted on Wikimedia Commons, any more than an uncited content fork is not acceptable on Wikipedia.

It would really help, if you want to edit Wikipedia, if you would read the basic policies that I have linked here, and comply with them. Otherwise, you are likely to be blocked permanently both on Commons and on Wikipedia. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC) +++ No delete. IS not ashtanga.

Sampra yoga = viniyoga +8 parts (ashtanga) +samyoga.83.220.237.48 (talk) 12:47, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

OK then we will have to take it to AfD. This really is no way to edit Wikipedia articles. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:51, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

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