User talk:MojtabaShahmiri
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December 2019
[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Puduḫepa 16:11, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- See Talk:Gutian language#Germanic Theory. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:51, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Proto-Indo-European homeland
[edit]Your edits at Proto-Indo-European homeland are WP:DISRUPTIVE. You're not contributing to building an encyclopedia, but pushing your personale WP:OR
- diff: doublure of the Reich-quote; re-insertion of the IFLScience source which is full of errors
- diff: again the doublure of the Reich-quote
- diff, edit-summary
It needs no explaining, this paragraph from Reich's book is itself the best objection to this theory.
Which theory exactly? And which "objection"? A suggestion, just that. - diff: do you actually understand what this is about? User:Skllagyook is totally right in his comments on this edit.
- diff: you're edit-warring here.
You better take serious notice of Skllagyook's comments; they're good. Otherwise, you're heading to a report at WP:ANI. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:40, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
December 2019
[edit] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Proto-Indo-European homeland. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. diff this statement is aleady used in the article, at the appropriate place; it has nothing to do with Sergent's ideas. This is pure WP:SYNTHESIS and pov-pushing. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- Please take these warnings seriously. Your Masters degree doesn't give you any authority here (and what is a "discontinued Masters?). If you are taken to WP:ANI you'll probably be blocked. Doug Weller talk 14:13, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- Please stop the personal attacks, when you say my edits are disruptive, you should also say your reasons, having a difference of opinion is not disruptive. --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 14:29, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- That wasn't a personal attack but a standard warning using a template, and User:Joshua Jonathan explained his reason. Meanwhile, you haven't answered my question about a "discontinued Masters" and you are making personal attacks - warning below. Doug Weller talk 10:52, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Please stop the personal attacks, when you say my edits are disruptive, you should also say your reasons, having a difference of opinion is not disruptive. --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 14:29, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Middle Bronze Age migration
[edit]You're pov-pushing again at Middle Bronze Age migration and Talk:Middle Bronze Age migration for your Iranian origins. Please stop it. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 11:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
January 2020
[edit] Hello, I'm Joshua Jonathan. I noticed that you made a comment on the page User talk:Joshua Jonathan#Your anti-Iranian attitude that didn't seem very civil. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. diff be carefull with accusations like these; they're wrong. And they show, yet again, that you WP:DONTGETIT. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC) Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I asked my question on your talk page but it seems you removed it! --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 08:15, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, indeed. I, and others too, have already explained to you: you interpret a number of sources in an odd way, pushing your convincion of Iranian origins of Indo-European. The evidence you see is not there. Wikipedia is not a WP:FORUM. I don't doubt at all your good intentions, and I sincerely hope you can find another platform to discuss your ideas, but please not here at Wikipedia. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:54, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Would you please tell me what you interpret when for example David Reich says "the most likely location of the population that first spoke an Indo-European language was south of the Caucasus Mountains, perhaps in present-day Iran or Armenia"? Articles in the latest volume of the Journal of Indo-European Studies also talk about the same thing, I actually think you are pushing your belief of Steppe origins of Indo-European by ignoring all other theories, especially the recent ones. I don't want to discuss about it but I just want that these new studies are mentioned in Wikipedia. --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 09:30, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reich's comment is mentioned, at several places; you're making too much out of it. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:34, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Would you please tell me what you interpret when for example David Reich says "the most likely location of the population that first spoke an Indo-European language was south of the Caucasus Mountains, perhaps in present-day Iran or Armenia"? Articles in the latest volume of the Journal of Indo-European Studies also talk about the same thing, I actually think you are pushing your belief of Steppe origins of Indo-European by ignoring all other theories, especially the recent ones. I don't want to discuss about it but I just want that these new studies are mentioned in Wikipedia. --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 09:30, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, indeed. I, and others too, have already explained to you: you interpret a number of sources in an odd way, pushing your convincion of Iranian origins of Indo-European. The evidence you see is not there. Wikipedia is not a WP:FORUM. I don't doubt at all your good intentions, and I sincerely hope you can find another platform to discuss your ideas, but please not here at Wikipedia. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:54, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a forum
[edit]Hello MojtabaShahmiri. You have been told this before, but Wikipedia is not a forum. Talk pages exist to discuss improvements to their respective articles, not to host debates on the content. Almost all your recent contributions have been to start talk page discussions only tangentially related to the article and this is becoming disruptive to our purpose of writing an encyclopaedia.
In future, please make sure that when you make a comment on a talk page you a) have a specific suggestion for or comment on an improvement to the article and b) provide a reference to published reliable sources to back up your argument.
Please consider this a final warning. If you continue to use your editing rights primarily to engage in debates not related to building an encyclopaedia, you will be blocked. – Joe (talk) 08:38, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Joe Roe: When I edit something, you revert my edits and say first you should talk about it in the talk page and when I talk about it then you say Wikipedia is not a forum!! As I said here: Talk:Proto-Indo-European_homeland#Eurocentric_bigotry_in_this_page_about_Proto-Indo-European_homeland the problem seems to be Eurocentric bigotry in Wikipedia, what should I do when they revert my edits which are from peer-reviewed academic journal of Indo-European studies? Look at it: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Proto-Indo-European_homeland&diff=prev&oldid=933173128 --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 09:43, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
February 2020
[edit] Please stop your disruptive editing.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Proto-Indo-European homeland, you may be blocked from editing. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:57, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Joshua Jonathan: I did it but you are not impartial towards me. --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 16:47, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:Skllagyook. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. You are heading for a block if you don't take heed of the multiple warnings you've had. Doug Weller talk 10:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't attack anyone but just asked them to stop POV-pushing. --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 15:29, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- You did comment "on other contributors" though, right? That's a standard template, not a personal message and reflects WP:PERSONALATTACKS which is policy, not a guideline. On reflection though perhaps I should have given you a warning about assume good faith"
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- You did comment "on other contributors" though, right? That's a standard template, not a personal message and reflects WP:PERSONALATTACKS which is policy, not a guideline. On reflection though perhaps I should have given you a warning about assume good faith"
Draft:Linear Gutian concern
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May 2020
[edit] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Proto-Indo-European homeland. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 03:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Conflict of interest policy
[edit]Hello, MojtabaShahmiri. Based on this discussion and the your creation of Draft:Linear Gutian, it would appear that you might have a conflict of interest regarding the topic "Linear Gutian". Following is a standard notice about Wikipedia's policy concerning Conflict of interest. Please take the time to read and understand it:
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.Please pay especial attention to the third bullet about disclosing a conflict of interest. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:30, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Mathglot: I already know about it and I have never used my own works for editing pages in the recent months, anyway thanks for your advice. MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 20:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- WP:COI does not only apply to using your own writing as references. It equally applies to using Wikipedia to promote your own research in the public eye by seeking to force it into Wikipedia articles and give it more legitimacy than it holds in the mainstream scientific community per WP:UNDUE weight and WP:FRINGE.Heiro 20:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Heironymous Rowe: I have never done it too, I just want that what scholars say are pulished in wikipedia, not what some editors interpret, as you read in the talk page of "Proto-Indo-European homeland" article, other ones have also complained about it. MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 21:19, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- WP:COI does not only apply to using your own writing as references. It equally applies to using Wikipedia to promote your own research in the public eye by seeking to force it into Wikipedia articles and give it more legitimacy than it holds in the mainstream scientific community per WP:UNDUE weight and WP:FRINGE.Heiro 20:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Topic ban on Indo-European topics
[edit]I closed the ANI discussion about you [1] with a topic ban on all Indo-European topic, broadly construed. Note that this is a community ban, and it can not be lifted without another community discussion. To get the ban lifted, you will need to open another topic at WP:ANI or WP:AN. I would strongly recommend against doing this in the next 6 months.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: Ok, but please be impartial, the main reason that I was banned was that I said "Southern archaic PIE-homeland hypothesis" is wrong, will you ban other ones who also say this southern of nowhere (!) hypothesis is wrong? Why should it not be corrected?! --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 04:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- If someone opens the discussion about other users, and the consensus is to topic-ban them, I will be happy to evaluate the consensus and topic-ban each of them.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
February 2021
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- Why?!! --MojtabaShahmiri (talk) 13:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Linear Gutian
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Your draft article, Draft:Linear Gutian
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 18:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)