User talk:Pejman47/Archive2

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• Archive1

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

No problem on the template help. Yeah, I re-removed the spam link, though I think Armon will now object to your edit by itself. Unfortunately discussion on that page isn't really going anywhere either, with LittmanTAMU even stating that he doesn't want to discuss and would rather just keep the neutrality tag. The idea should be to eventually remove the tag, but alas, this is no perfect world. The Behnam 14:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Pejman, the reason that you can't get what you want done in the article is because you are 'balancing' it by adding your own arguments and POV. We aren't supposed to do that. If you want to add those things, you'll need to find a reliable source that makes that case. Until then I suggest you drop it. Besides I don't think the points you are threatening your editing privileges by pushing are very important, so please just give it a break and let the article be. Thank you. The Behnam 21:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree with The Behnam on this one. The MA article is a joke and attempts to mitigate the accusations are automatically faced with threats of blocking and such. Jayjg apparently owns the page and won't accept a consensus different from his POV. To his credit, he religiously abides by the Wiki's policies. There are more pressing and serious issues at hand on the article than the claim of anti-Semitism. Best of luck! Lixy 23:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Given the topic, I doubt that there is any way to get a non-POV article. The guy denies the holocaust. He is so polarizing and divisive that getting a non-POV perspective would require aliens from outer space to mediate. Realistically, I think it best that the article have the disputed header up, at least until everything is settled. That could, of course, take a hundred years! It will probably always be an article raging with POV arguments on all sides.—Gaff ^ταλκ 20:37, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Non-POV does not mean "neutral"!

The neutral point of view is a means of dealing with conflicting views. The policy requires that, where there are or have been conflicting views, these should be presented fairly. None of the views should be given undue weight or asserted as being the truth, and all significant published points of view are to be presented, not just the most popular one. It should also not be asserted that the most popular view or some sort of intermediate view among the different views is the correct one. Readers are left to form their own opinions.

If a person can fairly be described as a holocaust denier, and it is well supported, that is NPOV. -- Avi 21:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Then why just reverting the official response of his spokesman to the allegations? I agree, let the reader decide--Pejman47 21:44, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

That's not an NPOV question but a WP:LEAD question. -- Avi 21:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

the lead is the most important part of the article which must be NPOV and must summarize all the POV involved, isn't it?--Pejman47 21:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Arvandrud/Shatt al-Arab

Dear editor,
You recently took part in the discussion of this move request. The format of the move request has been modified, to simplify the discussion and thus help the closing WP:RM administrator.

You are invited to re-state your opinion on the issue, or modify your previous comment, under the new format. - Best regads, Ev 20:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you for 24 hrs per the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Pejman47_gaming_WP:3RR. Gaming the 3RR system is highly frowned upon by the community, and I see that you've been warned for this twice before and have dismissed those warnings. Please use the time off to reconsider you method of participation and try to contribute in a more constructive manner when you return. FeloniousMonk 00:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

re: what?

This is really strange because I don't remember doing such thing and I wouldn't have a reason for doing such thing. But however this happened, I did fix it. Thanks for pointing it out. -- Behnam 19:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Racism by Country

Since we're disputing content on this article, I invite you to come look at and comment on the feedback that's been given through a request for comment. Talk:Racism by country#Iran II WilyD 22:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Nowruz

There wasn't any objection after my last comment (4 days ago). When all the participants in the discussion (in this case, me, Ariana and Jeff), agree with a proposal, that's a concensus. If you have any objection, you should participate in the discussion. Jahangard 01:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I don't know why you insist on a spelling which is not consistent with the standard Persian transcription (against a standard transcription which is used in most of the English books and the academic papers and preffered by Iranologists such as Yarshater). Jahangard 01:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

say what?

Destroyed the article??? I wrote more than 50 % of the article!! Me and Zereshk! Did I ever accuse you of anything? What right do you have to say something like that! Please, just do your thing and dont worry about the article! Ba Sepas Cyrus111

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		given to Cyrus111 for his continued high quality contribution over the years to Iran and Wikipedia 69.116.234.208 12:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Iran

Thanks for your help but just be careful of 3RR as it is easy to lose track in these situations. The Behnam 19:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Racism by country

Hello

I want to know if you'd be willing to participate in a mediation of any kind on Racism by country. I am agreeable to formal, informal or even rogue mediation, if you have a preference. If you're agreeable, I'll file a request and invite every other editor who's been involved, if not I'll probably be forced to seek arbitration given the circumstances. WilyD 19:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

How am I ruining the article?!?

How am I ruining the article?!? The whole point of Wikipedia is to give information about the subject of the article. Although I acknowledge that the information was slightly too detailed in some places and less detailed in other places but I think that most of what I put on the article was worthy of mentioning and deserves to be in the article. I will shorten it and put it back into the article. If you have a problem with it PLEASE LEAVE A MESSAGE ON MY PAGE OR WRITE YOUR CONCERNS ON THE IRANIAN TALK PAGE BEFORE CARELESSLY DELETING IT!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Manu kian maheri (talk • contribs) 17:09, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

The only reason that the Iran article is over 100KB is because of it's lenghthy history section which we must shorten. But that doesn't mean that other sections should be deprived of useful information!

OK, I won't add any unnesassery information about iran. But i have made an Earthquakes in Iran article. It's not the best article in the world but we can imporove it.Manu kian maheri 15:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Iranian Plateau

It is the job of the editors of the article, to add references when they add material. Adding a tag to notify the reader and editors that an article is unsourced does not require that the person placing the tag add sources. Please read this about "Tagging unsourced material:"

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2. If it is doubtful and harmful, you should remove it from the article; you may want to move it to the talk page and ask for a source, unless you regard it is as very harmful or absurd, in which case it should not be posted to a talk page either. Use your common sense. Do not be inappropriately cautious about removing unsourced material; it is better for Wikipedia to say nothing on an issue than to present false or misleading material.
   

All unsourced and poorly sourced contentious material about living persons should be removed from articles and talk pages immediately. It should not be tagged. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and Wikipedia:Libel.

I have reverted your edit for this reason, to have the tag catch the attention of people inserting unsourced, poorly sourced, or not definitively sources material in the article.

KP Botany 03:42, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Not a big deal. I don't live on Wikipedia, so I can afford to wait for people to respond. KP Botany 00:44, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Iran International Exhibitions Company

Sir, You have placed a warning on my talk page but obviously I have not spamed Wikpedia. In fact, I have many edits to my history and was wondering about YOUR MOTIVATION to mislead with such obviously erroneous phrases. Like You have "spamed". For the rest I invite you to respond on the Company's talk page. SSZ 00:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Please link to the prior discussion of deletion, as there appears to be a lot of information on the web about this company. KP Botany 02:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

• FYI: Restored and listed on WP:AFD to allow a full debate over deletion to take place. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iran International Exhibitions Company. Petros471 09:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Pejman47, there is nothing I have to apologize for. If someone needs to apologize it is may be you, for giving missleading warnings and making dishonest statements. Please read what I have written. It was a genuine concern on my part because of your repeated actions. You just need to calm down and read my comments and question again, following your repeated deletion requests. (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iran International Exhibitions Company).SSZ 21:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

{{db-spam}}

Please add it to the top of an article, rather than replacing the article with the template. It allows the admin to quickly view what they may be deleting, and others to read the article before it does (in case they want to comment on it/improve it etc.) Cheers, Petros471 17:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your notice--Pejman47 18:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for mediation

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Shatt al-Arab (Arvand Rud), and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible. -- tariqabjotu 14:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

Oh, sorry - I've been very busy in real life, but I got back into town on thursday and should be able to do this now. WilyD 21:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Racism by country, and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.

Dr strangelove

Hi, Thanks for letting me know. I was in the middle of editing when a friend called with all sorts of problems and I was forced to save the page and turn to other things. Thanks for telling me. The corrections have been made. Marktreut

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - 3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. -- Avi 22:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I am an established user and there is no need for that warnings. And also in this time, I assume good faith. --Pejman47 23:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind being in the mediation thing on this article but I've never actually editted it: it might be better to leave me off? --BozMo talk 19:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

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perisans pic

please dont remove the pic eich represent the persian people article, if you see anythuing wrong with the pic please tell meAddfsfsd 09:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite

Alas I am completely and totally illiterate in other languages other than some really bad Spanish. I was born in Toronto and raised in Bakersfield, California --far away from any substantial Persian communities and never developed language skills. The same stands for Azeri-Turkish, my interest in those topics comes from my significant other ;-) --Bobak 23:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

your welcome:) an in any way "khosh bashid" (means take care)--Pejman47 19:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry been busy

I have signed up now. --BozMo talk 12:04, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Assuming Good Faith

I have no idea if Jayjg is an Orthodox Jew or not, but if you were to have looked at a Jewish Calendar recently, you would have seen that May 23 and May 24 was the Festival of Shavuos, which would prevent observant Jews from responding on those days. Please remember to assume good faith instead of making accusation; blatant or implied. Thank you. -- Avi 16:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. By the way, the picture is of blintzes which are traditionally eaten on Shavuot, and they ARE good, if fattening -- Avi 16:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

you 're welcome my friend. --Pejman47 16:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what point you're making. It was a Holocaust denial conference, as many reliable sources have attested. It doesn't really make a difference if two or three people who don't actively deny the Holocaust attended, it doesn't change the nature of the conference itself. Jayjg ^(talk) 17:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad mediation update

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad --Sefringle^Talk 19:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Tag

If you mean the GFDL tag yes. - Francis Tyers · 10:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes I replied. - Francis Tyers · 15:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Yves Ghiai

Dear Pejman47, tahnk you for your welcome message and for the helpful links. I am very busy but can find a few hours from time to time to add my grains on WP. I work on subjects regarding architecture in general and iranian architecture in particular. Your tutorship is very valuable to me.Yghiai 03:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Your revert at Zoroaster.

Considering that I had explained my edits to the lede on talk, I'm afraid you're going to have to justify your revert, in line with the spirit of cooperative conduct when reverting. Thank you. -- Fullstop 13:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid, I must insist that you justify your revert of Zoroaster. If you have a valid reason for doing so, please provide your rationale at the appropriate talk section.

Reverts are a highly destructive instrument, and since you presumably have a good reason for choosing to destructively revert rather than constructively improve, please be so kind as to enumerate these reasons so that they may be taken into consideration. Thank you. -- Fullstop 15:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

3rd Reminder: Please provide a justification for your revert of Zoroaster. The appropriate talk section is here. I'm afraid I will have to undo your revert if no rationale is forthcoming. Thanks. -- Fullstop 13:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

4rd Reminder: I'm really sorry you insist on being vague. Perhaps you are only being unintentionally hazy^?, so here is ANOTHER reminder. Please respond in the APPROPRIATE TALK SECTION with a PRECISE list of reasons for your revert. I'm afraid I will have to undo your revert if no rationale^? is forthcoming. Thanks.

-- Fullstop 07:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Removing resourced info

Hi,

Don't u think insisting to remove resourced info is not a good thing for you to adopt in the Persian Gulf page? I think removing resourced & more comprehensive info is not what we read in the rules of editing here.

Please notice that there was not any word has been altered or replaced by me. Only refs (of high quality and standards) were added to verifiy text related to Arabic names (as I know better than u in Arabic). For historical names, I added some other classical names widly-used even with refs in the past times as long as one user want to mention classical names but in his own way. Not only one name should be mentioned as it is tending to be of political background. Why you want to adopt the removal of names used for ~100-400 years as shown in the references?

Regarding the consensus, there was none as u can notice now in the talk page. For previous compromise(s), none of the Iranian editors considered sugestion provided by some Arab editors. This is not qualifying the proposal to be a compromise and we considered it manipulated and clarify that it has never been approved, as shown in our comments in the Talk Page.

It is better to keep referenced info and all widly-used historical names to follow the rules of edit in WP and avoid falling uder the vandalism due to repeated removal of resourced and comprehensive info.

On more thing, IP users looks keep destroying the article and vandalising it by removing refs and text. I did semi-protection not to allow any user (from any side) to do naive changes. Ralhazzaa 06:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Warning: deletion

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to Persian Gulf. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for test edits. Thank you.

Don't remove resourced info as WP requires. Otherwise, your repeated deletion of content from articles without providing refs will be considered as Vandalism (read difinition). Ralhazzaa 11:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Hotel-Room-video.jpg

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Thanks, I added the rational for its fair use.--Pejman47 20:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Why "Sunni" was deleted in Yaqub Saffari article?

Any reasons? if you believe he was not Sunni, please cite references as I did to specify he was. Scythian1 20:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

you are right, deletion of it was result of your unexplained blink revert, you may reinsert it, but be do not add other un-sourced infos, cheers,.--Pejman47 22:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

arbcom case

I opened Arbcom page. please make your comments. [1] --Dacy69 15:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Language speakers feud

Hi, I opened a vote to end the constant feud with the list of languages by number of native speakers. I saw you were interested in this in the past, so do not hesitate to take part in the vote: Talk:List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers#Proposal. Godefroy 17:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | ^{Blast him / Follow his steps} 16:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Warning

You have just reverted the work of several days for many people (including mine), who have been working on this article diligently. Our work was done independently of each other. Some have changed pics in the history section or in the economy; some have edited text in many different sections over that period. Please note that your intervention is disruptive and somewhat unexplained. You have to be specific and you can't revert the work of everybody at the same time. Please provide more explanations on Iran's talk page for each individual edits that you have reverted. Thank you. 69.116.234.208 22:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

You are accusing of POV pushing all of a sudden. I have no clue whatsoever what you are referring to or it is that you receive instructions to make attacks on demand? WHO ARE YOU?

First you say it reads like a tourist brochure and when I ask you to be specific you change to POV pushing and attack me personally.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia with your behavior and continue harassing me I will have no choice but to ask admins to look into that matter, since it is not the first time it happens, obviously. Please provide your response on Iran's talk page. Thank you. 69.116.234.208 22:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Golestān Province

Hi, I saw that you reverted my removal of iranica.com. On this specific page the link in the external link section is to the main domain of iranica.com, not to a specific document (not directly linked, see WP:EL). If I search on iranica.com, I can not even find a page specific about the province. Could you have a look at the specific link, and when you find a better link, add that link to the document (though, maybe it is better as a reference?). Hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 12:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, about this specific case, you are right. I didn't notice that it is to the main domain of the website. Anyway I think you know that Iranica is a prestigious academic source and EL to it can not be called "spam". --Pejman47 12:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)