User talk:PranksterTurtle/Archive 3

Linda Kaplan Thaler

Thanks for your answer regarding the page on Linda Kaplan Thaler. I am aware of the "risks" of being "closely associated" with this person, but I made a point of writing a fair and objective description of her life and her personal life, so I think I should be fine on that side... Should I simply recreate the page, and add a line in the "talk" discussion saying that I release the text under the GFDL? Would that be sufficient? I would ask the admin directly, but I cannot find his/her identity on the deletion log or anywhere unfortunately. Thanks for your help!! C.G

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christophe15minutes (talk • contribs) 17:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC) 

Newark Bears (1926-1949)

The website that the bot claims the article is plagiarized from is itself one of the many sites that ripoff Wikipedia. I simply took a paragraph from the Newark Bears article, moving the info regarding the older team to differentiate the two teams. If you notice on this ripoff page, it says "from Wikipedia."

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JaMikePA (talk) 20:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

The graphical nature of the wikipedia credit on that page is likely confusing the bot. I've already removed the speedy delete request. Kuru ^talk 20:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

untitled the musical

Hello, you deleted the page created for untitled the musical, however I had previously stated in the talk page that I owned the copyright for the text used. Can you please repost the page as it was? An email from the webmaster for the website was sent to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Thanks.Jjbalcou (talk) 18:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

QQ Games Speedy Deletion

Hello, you nominated the QQ Games article for speedy deletion and then posted

"I withdrew this speedy but intend to propose it for deletion under notability standards if the case for notability isn't made in the article itself. Please see the talk page. – PranksterTurtle (talk) 09:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)"

on my wall. Unfortunately, before I had a chance to discuss the matter on the page's talk page, it was processed and speedily deleted. Please advise me regarding where we go from here on this matter as I believe the page was notable, and would have worked to establish this.

Lucielle (talk) 08:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Not just retrieving the article

I am aware of how to retrieve the article, but I'd also like to hear your reasoning regarding why it does not meet the web notability guidelines. It is mentioned in numerous blogs, some of them with a fairly decent Alexa ranking, it's associated with, and seems to be sponsored by AIM, which is certainly notable in itself, as this would make it a competitor of things like Yahoo Games, MSN Games, etc.

Lucielle (talk) 09:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Article about Go Voyages

Hello ! After your message on the article I just edit on Wikipedia, would you mind telling me if it's better now ? As a matter of fact, it is my first utilisation and I probably did something wrong. In fact, I just wanted to create the english version of our french page about Go voyages. So after updating the french wikipedia page, I tried to create an english page containing the translation. Thank you very much for your help ! And sorry in advance for my approximate english !! Sincerely,

CecileGov (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC).

Actually, my message should have properly proposed deletion under WP:CSD#A7, which basically says that there isn't anything in the article that says why Go Voyage is important or significant. If you can come up with a plausible explanation of why Go Voyage should be included in Wikipedia, then I'll remove my deletion tag. Please let me know if you have any other questions. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 18:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Explanation about Go Voyages'Article

Thank you for your answer. I would say Go Voyages is a trusty web travel agency and It is one of the most popular in France. Go Voyages is newly proposing its services to different european countries. But european people don't know this enterprise yet as french people. That is why it is really important people can find some reliable information about this enterprise. Isn't it ? CecileGov (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC).

Wikipedia shouldn't be a primary source for people to find out about your company, and it definitely isn't a place for advertising. If Go Voyages is that popular when compared to other companies in France (and you can back that up with reliable third-party sources), say so in the article. I also suggest that you have a look at Wikipedia's standards for company notability.

As a side note, it would do a lot more good if we had this conversation on the article's talk page rather than on my talk page. It's doubtful an admin would look here before making the decision to delete or not. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 18:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

www.themafiaunderground.com

hello you requested a deletion for my page titled www.themafiaunderground.com..........Why so?

I requested a speedy deletion because there was not a claim for significance or importance on the article itself. Please see Wikipedia's standards for web notability, and let me know if you have any more questions. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 19:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Suzuki RF400R

Leave it alone It was alright as it was I do not meddel with your page.--AKM722 (talk) 15:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but once you hit the "save page" button it isn't your page any more. I was copyediting for clarity and NPOV, which, IMHO, is completely noncontroversial. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 16:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I know

I know it is not my page but I wrote it well and you deleted a part of it and changed the info in the box. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AKM722 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I deleted part of it for clarity and removal of NPOV, which is part of copyediting. I didn't delete anything visible in the infobox, but only made it so that your citation actually pointed somewhere. I think I made the article better, and I intend to keep on doing so. Do you want to call in a neutral third party to mediate this? – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 16:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Teleprompter of the United States

Hi. I moved the article Teleprompter of the United States to Teleprompter usage by Barack Obama because most of the people who want to delete it are saying that it's just about what Rush Limbaugh said. They are wrong. Before Limbaugh used the phrase, lots of mainstream news sources reported on the subject. I have added some of those citations to the article. Even without any mention of Limbaugh, this is still a notable topic and deserves its own wikipedia article. Grundle2600 (talk) 01:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of /Wikipedia:Your first article

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. I take it this was just a test, right? Pointillist (talk) 16:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

You've got the wrong editor -- I'm just the idiot who moved the article to the right place and forgot to request deletion. Oops. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 16:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought you looked a bit more experienced that I'd expected. No offense intended! - Pointillist (talk) 16:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

None taken.  :) – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 16:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:Welcome

Thanks for the welcome. I've been editing anonymously on wiki for a little while now (my IP changes once a year or so), but thanks regardless. Cya. 122.106.160.244 (talk) 03:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Dave Farrell

Sorry, my mistake. Saw the David/Dave thing, and completely missed the "(bassist)" part at the end. I've deleted it as an R3, as originally requested. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 03:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC).

Speedy deletion of Do good design

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.  Chzz  ►  17:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Attack of the random redirect! Rawr!  :) – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 18:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Tom McGillis

I've declined your speedy as the article, while horribly written, does assert notability by mentioning that McGillis is the creator/executive producer of several animated series. COI ALERT: I actually know Tom, so I might be slightly prejudiced, but looking at this within the speedy guidelines I couldn't delete. Certainly you should feel more than free to take this to WP:AfD. AniMate^talk 23:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Nope, that's good enough for me. Looks like I need to take my finger off the speedy button for a while. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 23:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Meh, it happens. Speedy deletions are tricky, though I must admit I almost always assume I'm going to be deleting when I see an article where the last name isn't capitalized (though I always check). Fortunately, this time it was someone who works in my field. AniMate^talk 23:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

I have 3 granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 03:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, PranksterTurtle. You have new messages at JhanCRUSH's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--jhanCRUSH 04:30, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Do Good Design

Hi. I hope this is the correct place to reply to the message you put on the David Berman talk page. This is my first time corresponding within Wikipedia, so I'd appreciate any protocol advice. Regarding the message you put about one institution not being sufficient, there are in fact many... however this is the only one I could find a source online for that I could thus footnote. I am open to suggestions. Thank you very much for your interest and encouragement David Berman (talk) 08:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)David Berman.

Thanks

Thanks for the fix to my userpage! :) Dwain (talk) 18:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

You're very welcome. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 18:25, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Winged vs. Wingged

Do you believe that the word is spelled with two g's? Alansohn (talk) 03:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's not, and dictionary.com agrees with me. It's possible that I'm wrong, though. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 03:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

i would now like to say that PT has been a nusiense and should be banned from all wikia articles and messageing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevernuke (talk • contribs) 13:13, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

templated in error

Hiya...I'm thinking you templated me by mistake. It's no biggie, but I wanted to make sure you had no real issue with my edits. Reply on my talk page if you have any concerns. See ya, Tiderolls 12:46, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL...been there. Thanks for the revert. Later, Tiderolls 12:50, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

on another subject

Low priority inquiry; Is Huggle a granted right or can anyone download it? Seems you (or someone else with HG) beats me to many vandalism reverts I attempt. Anyway, answer when ya can. Thanks. Tiderolls 13:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

All you need is rollback permissions, which you can request from here. Warning: Huggle is addicting, and may result in unintended late nights. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 13:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Ain't it the truth! Great work on the recent change patrol by the way PranksterTurtle. Spitfire^Tally-ho! 13:16, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...addicting...sounds too good to be true. I second Spitfire's kudos on the patrolling. Spitfire seems to have their act together as well. Tiderolls 13:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Guess we're all vandalism-reverting fiends. :) – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 00:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

My regrets

As I look out over the things having been done, I have very many sorrows in my iron heart. I have Latin teacher dying of lechtrechonodes and she is in the belief that nobody cares anymore about Sallust and I am trying to show her other wise. I see that I have erred! I will be a good person from ever more and shall not trouble anybody.

However I have friends with same concerns but different sufferings who may have learned differently. I hope they will be good, but two things are not the same: learning by hearsay and by experience. 128.197.244.207 (talk) 13:03, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Integration Point, Inc

Integration Point, Inc is a corporation and when writing the article on this corporation - I followed the similar format of one of our competitors, Management Dynamics.

Under the reason for speedy deletion, it stated A7 - that it was written as an advertisement.

My question to you, how can I edit Integration Point, Inc to merit as a Wikipedia article, in other words - how is Management Dynamics page so different from the one I created on Integration Point?

This is my first time creating an article on Wikipedia, so any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

ThanksJmiles1107 (talk) 13:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi there! It seems that Integration Point, Inc. was deleted both because of criteria G11, which says that it was written like an advertisement, and criteria A7, which says that it was about a company and made no argument for inclusion in Wikipedia.

The first criteria would be relatively easy to meet -- just leave out a lot of the discussion about the products and really strive to use a neutral point of view.

The second one is significantly more difficult, and I would advise you to read the notability standards for companies. From the standards:

A company, corporation, organization, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject.

If you can come up with these sources and they cover the company in some depth, then if you do end up creating the article again, make a case for notability by referencing them in the text.

Also keep in mind that you seem to have a conflict of interest in creating this article. While this does not mean that you absolutely can't create the article, it's not a very good idea. The general thinking is that if a company is notable, somebody not associated with the company would take the time to make an article for it.

The Management Dynamics article managed to survive the initial new page review because they did have secondary sources that referenced them. I still think it's borderline for notability (I might propose it for deletion), but they did make their case.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me here. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 13:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Integration Point, Inc

Thank you for your suggestions and comments. I will continue working on this article and add in notable secondary sources, as well as address the advertisement issue. Hopefully, the next post of the article will meet the Wikipedia standards.

Thanks again! Jmiles1107 (talk) 18:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

batt o keefe =

em... no, im going to keep editing it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.6.4.58 (talk) 00:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Then I'm fairly certain you'll be banned in short order. Seriously, please stop. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 00:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

The Chutengodian Bible

I wish to protest the claim of a copyright violation on the page Chutengodian Bible from my website Godless: A book review

I am Eric Bauer. I posted this. I coped it directly from my website as indicated. My website does not have a copyright on it. I directly contacted Pete Hautman and talked to him, and he gave me full permission to use and reprint any part of the book for my website and Wikipedia. He gave me direct permission. There are no copyright infringments here. please instruct me on a more formal way to make that clear in my article. Eric Bauer. Politicalnerd08 (talk) 02:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

David B. Lacquement

I declined your request for speedy deletion of David B. Lacquement. He is a major general. This is a claim to significance/importance. A7 has a lower threshold for inclusion than W:N, the article only has to make a claim to significance or importance. I couldn't help but notice that some of your other CSD's have been declined. You might want to review the essay Why I hate Speedy Deleters or Field guide to proper speedy deletion.---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 05:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! Will do. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 14:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

==I haven't made any of those edits. The computers in my campus have dynamic IP

==I do have an account, but I've forgotten my password :(

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For helping out at the laborious and oft-backlogged WP:SCV, and your informative approach to it. Your contributions are very much appreciated! – Toon(talk) 16:41, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! SCV is what prompted me to get an account in the first place. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 17:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Learning by hearsay

I cannot but to apologize dearly to you, my friend, for Sallust having become another. As I have said I have [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADD ]ADD and cannot pay attention. So I sit with a book and read until I can't and then make Sallust otherwise. I understand this is wrong and that I have no business doing it. Yet still in my heaviness of heart, I cannot throw away all I have done. WOuld you lave me helpless? Much love for the new Year. Operafield defender (talk) 18:34, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

For you kind note, Prankster. I do have an account, which I use for writing as well as reverting vandalism: [2]. Keep up the excellent work, 99.184.128.247 (talk) 18:55, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Tenexpa

Hi, you recently added Tenexpa to the notengilsh page, and put a template on the page using Friendly, but when you put the tag on the page, it didn't say it was Spanish. Is this a problem with Friendly? Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 11:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm really not sure. I don't think Friendly asked me what language I thought it was, and I forgot to go back and change the template on the article itself. Sorry about that! – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 12:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

IDO COUPON

Do you know if there will be an IDO coupon available for the new movie? Cheers. 128.197.244.202 (talk) 16:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Help me out here -- I have no idea what you're talking about. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 16:58, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I do not know waht is meant. I however have little money and much need to use it on treatements for lechronodes. Would you leave me helpless? If I am to see the movie I will need an IDO cupoun but lataly standards have been lax. 128.197.244.189 (talk) 12:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

My talk page

Hello. While I appreciate your eagerness to revert vandalism, I would prefer that users' messages to me not be reverted, even if they are unsigned and ambiguous. Thanks. JSpung (talk) 19:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry about that. Won't happen again. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 19:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

re:Thanks!

No problem, a pleasure :). You might get a chance later :P, I'm going soonish, everybody seems to be editing my page all of a sudden ;). I'll leave it in your safe hands ;). Best - Kingpin13 (talk) 20:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

No Problem

My pleasure, I see you've you've been doing great recent changes patrol tonight! Thanks and all the best, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 20:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :)

		CVU Anti-Vandalism Award
		Thank you for protecting wikipedia from vandals and thanks for reverting vandalism on my userpage.   ■ MMXXtalk  12:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Catabolite repression

Need help adding PMID for article for Deutcsher, J.

PMID: 18359269

Thanks! P.S. sorry i am a noob here lol!

No problem. As a side note, I'm cheating and using Zotero. If you'd like to cite references by hand (which is usually more accurate, but takes longer), have a look at the journal citation template and all its friends. There's also the PMID tool, which builds citations from PMID alone. I'm going to knock off for the night, so have fun! – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 04:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

pubmed tool is very helpful! Thanks! p.s. will the article i wrote be googleable?

Yep, as soon as Google indexes Wikipedia again it will be. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 12:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi! How are you doing? I have a question: In my watchlist I see the following line: (diff) (hist) . . FMRFamide‎; 15:21 . . (+499) . . Uazikoff (talk | contribs) (Added reference; removed not working link; added some info) What does that (+499) mean? Thanks! Raffaello BG (talk) 15:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

It means that someone added 499 characters to the article. It's a way to judge how much somebody has changed an article. For example, a change that's +5 or something small will generally be a typofix; -4000 or thereabouts is most likely somebody deleting a section. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 17:20, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

History of Marshfield, Massachusetts

You people and their bots move just TOO fast! As the history of Marshfield section was getting way too long for the town's main page, I created the History of Marshfield, Massachusetts. I cut and pasted the history, but had to make sure it made the transfer okay before removing from its prior page. The27thMaine (talk) 18:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, gotcha. I've added the split-to and split-from tags to the relevant talk pages. If you have the splitting desire again, I suggest you add those first (or put a similar notice on the talk page). You'll confuse the heck out of the new page patrol if you don't. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 18:29, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, never done a split before! The27thMaine (talk) 18:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem -- neither have I! – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 18:33, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: History of Marshfield, Massachusetts. Just so you know, the last two revisions by an IP address ([3]) that you reverted ARE actually the author of those words. She must not have been logged in when she edited it. I'm removing that page from my watchlist anyways. That other week was stressful enough, and now I'm staying clear of Marshfield! Thanks for all the help. The27thMaine (talk) 02:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

So I gathered, but refactoring others' comments is a big huge no-no, so I just wanted to be sure. Besides, the edit to the talk page made it sound like I was flipping out over nothing.  :) Lot of drama over a little town in Massachusetts, that's for sure. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 17:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Cap

Ah well, looks like you beat me to the full vandalism reversion. I didn't notice initially that there was a small difference between the numbers for the two IPs (probably the same person) vandalising the page. :) WHSL ^(Talk) 12:57, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

They're still at it, too. Honestly, who vandalizes Cap? – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 13:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Update?

Hi Prankster Turtle. Nice to speak once again.

Do you have an update on his IDO work? I would very much like the coupon, as the lechtrechonodes are very dire? I have spent much money. Linguistixuck (talk) 22:52, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I thought apology was finished

I thought apology was finished so but here is another. Congrats on the wikibreak. I hope you enjoy this time away from family but return to love them ever more. I forgive you for not responding to many requests for IDO cupon but lechtrechonodes are in submission tonight. Much love for the new year! Linguistixuck (talk) 02:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Still don't understand you, sorry. And yes, I'm technically on wikibreak but I'm very bad at staying away. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 02:29, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah, so are my lechtrechonodes! Much love for the New Year Linguistixuck (talk) 02:33, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Sean Miller vandal

I've reported the Sean Miller vandal at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism Usrnme h8er (talk · contribs) 14:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you want some meat vandalism tag

Do you want some meat is a clearly good faith contribution. The page, does, however, exist on wikiquote, so tagged as transwikied instead.--Patton^t/c 12:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Where is it on Wikiquote? I might be suffering a complete brain lapse, but can't find it. And I don't think having catsthatlooklikehitler.com as a reference is really a sign of a good faith edit. – PranksterTurtle ^(talk) 13:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

M4 Survival Rifle

I have hand written notes re M4 from when I researched the AR7 and M6 Scout years ago, but my references are in chaos: I have moved twice and not completely unpacked both times. At hand right now Numrich Gun Parts catalog #27, page 1027 M4 Survival Rifle, has a list of parts and a short history confirming my notes, for what that is worth. (Numrich appeared to have most M4 parts except the barrels.) Although USAF was US Army Air at the time the M4 was developed, I suspect any ref manuals will be US Air Force. Naaman Brown (talk) 14:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)