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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 13)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

needs independent sources, most of the content here is unsourced, see WP:BLP.

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Theroadislong (talk) 12:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RDEHAS! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 12:40, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Ron Daniels[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Ron Daniels[edit]

Hello, RDEHAS. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ron Daniels".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:38, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ron Daniels (theatre) (November 2)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Numerous unsourced statements. See also WP:COI.

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Greenman (talk) 12:39, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ron Daniels (theatre) has been accepted[edit]

Ron Daniels (theatre), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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AntientNestor (talk) 17:47, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest[edit]

Hello, RDEHAS. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Ron Daniels (director), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 12:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Theroadislong thank you so much for your comments. I just wanted to take the time to say that I considered Ron Daniels deserving of a wiki page after many years in the industry and having worked with some very established actors. Much like his contemporaries and colleagues such as Trever Nunn, I believed he needed a wiki page.

I can freely admit that I do not have any direct connections to Mr Daniels, have never worked with him or carry any of his interests. My education was in drama and Shakespeare, and the study of the works of directors like him, and I was surprised to see many of the directors at his level had pages and he didn't. I contacted Mr Daniels to get some information about his work in order to expand on the bio, but all other information provided has been from archives such as those publicly available on the RSC, ART and his agency's pages, along with reviews and news articles of his work. I am personally connected to a theatre producer that has worked with him, and who helped me expand on his page. No personal organisation have been linked.

I desperately wish to publish this page correctly and without any issues, so please advise if there is anything further I can do to comply with wiki standards.

Thank you very much. RDEHAS (talk) 21:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"I contacted Mr Daniels to get some information about his work in order to expand on the bio" This means you have a VERY clear conflict of interest Wikipedia can use nothing you gained from this contact and you need to disclose your conflict of interest on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thank you for the advice. I will disclose this on my page. I will disclose that the information I gained from Mr Daniels was considering his move to and back from United States to confirm this timeline. Thank you. RDEHAS (talk) 21:28, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have clearly miss-understood how Wikipedia works we only report on what reliable independent sources have said, if it hasn't been published we do not use it. Theroadislong (talk) 21:32, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Director Jack Gelber[edit]

In the article Ron Daniels (director) there are three references for Jack Gelber directing Indians. Nunn was the season's director.--AntientNestor (talk) 16:32, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I could add (but it's a bit cluttered already) this one: "White men and Indians". The Stage. 11 July 1968. p. 13.--AntientNestor (talk) 18:31, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this, but Nunn may have been the artistic director at the time, but Gerber directed this production, as per the RSC official archives: https://collections.shakespeare.org.uk/search/rsc-performances/ind196807 RDEHAS (talk) 20:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So why did you delete Gelber and change it [1] to Terry Hands?--AntientNestor (talk) 21:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes sorry I got confused about what we were talking about. I changed that this afternoon coincidentally because I remembered that Gerber was fired apparently and Terry Hands took over, but while finding the source I realised that the RSC archives don't suggest such a story! Ironically this was the one credit I had major issues finding a source for. I believed it is now fixed? Thank you very much for your help. Very useful. RDEHAS (talk) 21:25, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Easily done, as I know all too well.

I was pleased to accept this draft article, BTW. It was surprising to find that Daniels was the only RSC director from the company's best years (quoting Michael Billington, Simon Trowbridge op cit, and many others) who didn't have a page.--AntientNestor (talk) 22:11, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grateful to you for accepting it. Couldn't agree more, I was so surprised when I studied his work that he had no wiki, he worked so much with so many greats! Any and all help is appreciated. RDEHAS (talk) 22:17, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright[edit]

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