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Ireland-UK passport free zone

I notice you have said that you have an interest in the passport free zone on User:Zoney talk page - while i am not uptodate on what the law is regarding this i know that the Ireland Act, 1949 http://www.uniset.ca/naty/maternity/irelandact1949.htm] passed by Westminster is/was (I believe it still has pretty much full effect) a significant law in ensuring that a post Republic of Ireland Act Ireland was allowed free movement to the UK. I have also seen claims (but cannot confirm) that states that the British Government did not recognise the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1935 and that the follow up act of 1956 was passed to retify this, these are available at www.irishstatutebook.ie - these claims also say that pre 1949 to the mid-1930's Irish were considered "stateless" by the UK because of this and the 1949 act was required (British wanted to ligitimise what they saw as the shortcomings of Irish law) - obviously this did not seem to cause any problem to the thousands who worked in the UK during WWII! Djegan 22:11, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately I myself know little on this issue. It certainly sounds interesting from the above comments by Djegan! zoney ♣ talk 09:35, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Djegan, I'll read up on those acts. I actually rang the Irish Department of Foreign Affairs last week but all they said was (The person I talked to wasn't an expert) there has never been a requirement of a passport between Ireland and England, which ties in with above. I think there could be an interesting article in this. Seabhcán 15:20, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also of note that a person born in Ireland (in its broadest sense) prior to 01-Jan-1949 is a "British Subject" [1] and may request a British Passport on completion of the required form - as I understand the British Nationality Act, 1948 removed this right of Irish people born thereafter and the Ireland Act, 1949 ensured that the Republic of Ireland is "not a foreign country" and thus allows entry unimpeded - the UK recognising the economic need for Irish workers. Djegan 21:25, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You may be interested in this Ireland Act and this British Nationality Act 1948 (bottom para). Djegan 15:46, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I just discovered this: [2] The passport-free-zone is called the "Common Travel Area", includes the UK, Ireland, Isle of Man and Channel Islands. This name originates from the Amsterdam Treaty of 1999. In 1997 Ireland brought in a requirement for all people entering the state to so a photo-id. The UK doesn't have this requirement. Also, ALIENS (AMENDMENT) ORDER, 1975 allows for a refusal into Ireland if they have an intention to travel on to the UK and would not qualify for UK entry. Seabhcán 17:27, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Pounds

Hi. I see you've been making changes to the UK currency articles :) There seems to be a little confusion as to what's what, so to clarify: currently there is no such thing as a Pound Scots or Northern Ireland Pound - all Scottish and Northern Ireland notes are in Pounds sterling and clearly say so on the front (well, not too clearly in our illustrations on British banknotes, but you can clearly see the word "Sterling" on the Bank of Scotland, Clydesdale Bank, and First Trust Bank notes). -- Arwel 13:17, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

But I understand that they are not quite the same as Bank of England sterling notes. They are not legal tender and they are mearly 'promissory notes', issued by individual banks. I also believe that the 6 or so other sterling currencies (from Gibraltar to Manx), are not the same as Bank of England money, being seperate currencies with a fixed 1:1 exchange rate to the English Pound (in a similar way to the Irish Pound until 1979). If I am wrong about any of these facts, I am sorry. However, even if I am not correct that these constitute seperate currencies, it is certainly a unique currency set-up, and worthy of prominent mention on wikipedia. Seabhcán 13:42, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

They are sterling notes, but not Bank of England sterling notes. Do not be over-concerned with matters of legal tender, the term doesn't mean what people often think it does - Bank of England notes are only legal tender in England and Wales anyway. Note that the "Scottish pound" is not the same thing as the Pound Scots was - at the time of the Union in 1707 1 English pound was worth 12 Pounds Scots. The legislation allowing Scottish and (now Northern) Irish banks to issue notes dates from the 1820s-1840s and requires them to hold an equivalent value in Bank of England notes to cover all the notes which they issues (excepting a couple of million pounds which represents the amount of cash they had in circulation at the time the law was passed). The difficulty in exchanging Scottish and NI notes abroad (and often the poorer exchange rate obtained if you can persuade a Bureau de Change to take them) is a reflection of the increased costs of repatriating small quantities of notes back to the banks' head offices in Edinburgh, Glasgow, or Belfast, compared to the cost of sending much commoner BoE notes to London, since there is comparatively little demand for the notes abroad. The Manx, Jersey, Guernsey, Gibraltar, and Falkland pounds are different as they are issued under the authority of separate governments, but are kept at parity with sterling -- I was told on my last visit to Jersey that the government there keeps £1.10 in English notes for every £1 they issue. See the CIA factbook to see which countries actually have separate currencies. -- Arwel 16:08, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok. I'm convinced. But this is definately a complex area and I think wikipedia needs to explain it better. I spent a good bit of time reading around before I edited anything, and I was confused.

It makes me wonder where the dividing line between currency and not-a-currency lies. Jersey must hold English notes to back up their own issues. Scottish banks must also hold English money to back up their issues. One is a currency and the other isn't. Why?

Seabhcán 20:32, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Birds of Trinidad and Tobago

Can you explain why you removed/redirected that page without first discussing the change? I am willing to discuss it, but at the very least you should have stated your position before removal. Thanks. Guettarda 15:33, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realise anyone was working on it. The page was listed on the Orphaned pages and seemed to have the same information as List of birds of Trinidad and Tobago. So I moved some info to that page (References) and then the first to be a redirect to the second. Seabhcán 16:12, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

UKAirports template

I just noticed you added the ukairports template. I am not 100% certain that I am in favour of it. Hmm. Anyway, cheers. Burgundavia 10:22, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

Can you expain your reasons? the Template:Airports in Ireland has proved very useful. I find these templates increase traffic to the less frequented articles in a topic and help improve appearence and standardisation. Seabhcán 12:43, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Image source

Thank you for uploading Image:Buddha Kalmykia.JPG. Its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. Please leave a note on the image page about the source of the image. Thank you. --Ellmist 23:48, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Also Image:Citichess Elista.JPGZeimusu | (Talk page) 06:51, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yip, both are mine, both PD. Seabhcán 07:16, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Special territories of the EU

I notice the creation of Category:Special territories of the EU. The category (or at least a number of the articles currently categorised thereunder) seems rather misleading/unhelpful in that some of the territories are not in the European Union at all and can therefore hardly be described as being territories of the EU. Greenland at least used to be in the EU... Would you care to have a look at removing incorrect categorisations? Or renaming the category perhaps along the lines of Territories with special relationships with the EU (bit of a mouthful, though!). Sîncéthement Man vyi 18:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ok, fair point. I'd prefer the re-nameing option as even Greenland has a close relationship with the EU. Dispite being outside it, Danish citizens who live there are EU citizens. How about "Special territories and the EU"? (Short but accurate) or "EU member special territories"? I'll copy this conversation to Category talk:Special territories of the EU and wait for comment before doing anything. Seabhcán 18:58, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Category:Currency and Category:Currencies

Please note that categories should be in the plural. That is why Category:Currency was marked for deletion on WP:CFD. I have re-added the cfd notice to "currency" and removed the redirect from "currencies" (category redirects don't work, btw). If you want to work on the subcategories, I suggest that you move them back to "currencies". I'll put a note to this effect at CFD. Thanks. --Kbdank71 16:33, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello User:Seabhcan, I notice you've removed Yen from Category:National currencies. I wonder if you could explain the reason? The category seems appropriate so I'm mystified. Fg2 21:58, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

Yen is already in the Category:Asian currencies which is a sub category of Category:National currencies, it doesn't need to be in both. Seabhcán 22:51, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. That makes sense of it. Fg2 01:30, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Castletroy

I see that at least someone has done something for the Castletroy area. I'm a student in Castletroy College and I have some spare time and I'm considering building up the Castletroy page. Polar ice 22:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Advice

Hello, I've noticed your RfA, and I wanted to give you some advice about it. I've noticed that you make very few edit summaries. This will go badly for you vote wise. A lot of people think this is very, very important and will oppose you for no other reason. If you make sure every edit you do from now on has a good summary then you should be fine. I'll still support you anyway. Good luck. --Silversmith 13:41, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. Will do. Seabhcán 15:28, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Edgar Allan Poe

Hi! I noticed you have previously been involved in editing this article, and it is currently being worked on to try to raise it to FA standard. If you are interested in helping improve this article once more, see here. Harro5 00:08, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Being an admin to look up to

Now that you've requested Adminship, it would probably be good to be participating in some other interests, such as the Ireland Wikiportal. Don't worry about the fact that as one man I have very little time to do all of it myself. No, this is purely a suggestion to better your chances of adminship, and to be an Admin to look up to.

Each section could probably stand to be under someone's responsibility. And it requires so little personal time--maybe twenty to thirty minutes a week.

Think about it. ℬastique▼^talk 20:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Sure, what needs doing? How about the "Did you know" section? Seabhcán 21:24, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Référendum en France

• suite à ta question, je t'invite à regarder ça. inscrits=who are able to vote. exprimés=who have actually voted. i don't see any corelation between abstentions and yes (or no) votes ;D
• as irish, i think you too will have to vote
• personaly, i voted yes, although i was 60/40 yes/no. but i answered to the question, not on french politics matter. salut ;D Alvaro

Thanks for your reply. I found the high level of abstentions curious, particularly as in Ireland, we do not have this option! I think I would vote yes also, but I am not happy about it. I would prefer a large reorganisation of the EU - scrap the Commission and give direct power to the parliament.

• that's also my opinion.

I think France and the Low Countries have killed this dinosoaur constitution, and now Ireland will not vote. Seabhcán 10:16, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• we will see ;D Alvaro 20:20, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 20:12, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comhgáirdeas leat, a bhuachaill!! :-) Now you're an admin, and quite deservedly, too! Well done - Pete C ^✍ 20:54, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. Be bold, and catch those vandals in the act! Cheers, Bratsche^{talk random} 13:53, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

My pleasure. Glad to see that it was carried. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:22, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

Happy you made it. ℬastique▼^talk 21:07, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am late as usual, but please accept my congratulations as well!—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 21:10, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

The Irish Invasion

Thank you very much for your answer to my question at Talk:Irish_diaspora on the Beatle's Irish roots. It was very informative and interesting. Funny no seems to mention it much, but perhaps it's something that is obvious to some and unknown to others. Mikepjones 20:26, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Did You Know ..?

Hello! I've already got one of my articles featured on the Irish 'Did You Know ..?' section, and I would like to get another one featured on the main wikipedia page. Any advice on how to do it? Thank you. Fergananim

Federalism in Denmark

Hi Seabhcán,

On 29 June you posted a question regarding federalism in Denmark. Sorry about the long wait, but I only just realized it. I've posted a reply on Talk:Faroe_Islands#Dependency.3F (rather long, I'm afraid, but the history is rather complex.) If you have any other questions, feel free to drop me a line.

Best regards from Denmark. --Valentinian 00:21, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Derry article

I have attempted to put the Derry article at Londonderry/Derry to end a dispute over whether the article on Derry should be called Derry or Londonderry. You put it up for deletion. Why is this? Can you please explain on my talk page. --195.188.51.4 11:25, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

• Thankyou for responding quickly. I have done as you have said.
• What is the Wikipedia:Irish Wikipedians' notice board ?

It is a notice board for Wikipedians interested in Irish related articles and events. Seabhcán 12:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Railway books

Johnson's atlas and Gazetteer of the Railways of Ireland - Midland Publishing, is a full set of maps of the country with all railways built here ever marked on it, with all stations etc. It's fascinating, all routes are numbered with full details (stations, distances, opening/closing dates) in an extensive index.

Midland Publishing have a number of other books such as "Irish Railways in Colour" (1 and 2).

I found RTÉ's "Ironing the Land" book by Kevin O'Connor very good for an overview, although some other Irish railway enthusiasts don't think it's so great. I think it's nicely presented and a good beginner's book.

There are a whole series of books focussing on each railway operator, I forget the publisher though. They are large format (bigger than A4) and softcover, with many photos, and are quite slim volumes. This series is highly regarded, with some extensive topics such as the Great Northern Railway company covered.

For modern goings on, the best source of information I have found is Irish Railway News (I use the email service as the MSN groups interface irritates me).

Hope all that helps!

zoney ♣ talk 12:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

{{World Heritage Sites in Britian}}

Hi Seabhcan,

I have to say, I don't think its a good idea to be adding this template to the top of articles. Its really a navigation box, and at best, these tend to get added to the foot of articles. In practice, this list is probably better handled as a list at List_of_World_Heritage_Sites_in_Europe#United_Kingdom. -- Solipsist 16:26, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi Solipsist, I was following the example of several other such templates. See: Template:World Heritage Sites in India, for example. Seabhcán 16:28, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, they are probably a bad idea too. Why? Because this list really isn't that important to the articles its being added to. For example, if I go to the article on Canterbury Cathedral what I expect to find is an opening paragraph that gives me the key facts, and a photo of what the Cathedral looks like. Instead I now have to go down a couple of pages before seeing what the place looks like.

Although these places are related as World Heritage sites, its a weak connection. I'm just as likely to be visiting Canterbury Cathedral because I've been working through a List of cathedrals in the United Kingdom, or a list of Buildings in Kent. In any case, all these articles are already in Category:World_Heritage_Sites_in_England which achieves the same purpose more neatly. -- Solipsist 16:41, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Signiture experiment [[User:Seabhcán]] 17:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)