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I've done some organization at Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian cinema it was a mess. I've created the notepad now and added a section for film article image requests on the actor image page we created before. I also added the nice Indian cinema icon. Now the notepad will need organization and bullet pointing concisely setting up a page for all the things that require attention for all of the articles withing Indian cinema. Are you OK with these changes? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I have discussed with Giro who does a lot of organizational work for WP Films and he like me thinks its time we standardized the cinema groups and took the Indian cinema group as part under our wing and part WP:India. At present it seems like many of the participants are inactive and unfortunately general Indian cinema project organization is suffering as a result despite the great work of its active members on certain articles. Now a move to Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Indian cinema task force would guarantee an increase in organization and would be closely monitored by Giro and msyelf and others who could then bat ome date in collaboration assess all Indian cinema articles and try to ensure even covergage of all. . It would create a stable framework and not alienate the group but would be working with overall film project goals of which Indian cinema is undeniably a part of. It would also be a part of the WP:India group natually. Now I need some support in this -I promise a move will strongly enhance the cinema group organization and it would still function the same. Please let me know if you agree asap thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Tu español es excellente amigo. Y gracias . Quiero aprender hablar y escribir español con fluidez en el futuro. You support the restructuring then? It can only bring solidarity to film and bio articles related to Indian cinema and it will create more interest in the project and encourage active members of films to check it out and try to contribute . There would soon enough be a drive to assess all articles and work at developing everything in coordination with our goals . ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

It wouldn't affect the projects uniqueness. As it is the project is alienated and the 400 or so editors at WP Films can't really get in to attempt to assess them. It is still exactly the same. I appreciate your love of Indian cinema as the best but do you want better organization or not? The seperate group hasn't really got any form of article assessment it didn't even have any mention of the top articles until a minute ago ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Of course it would copy the same version -it would be exactly the same!! . It would be exactly the same pages just under WP:Films assessment to coordinate it better ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:29, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I've stated what I think on the talk page as you asked me what I thought . Yow!! Boohooo.Sob sob. Lois Maxwell who played Mish Moneypenny died. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey I found an image for Deepika Padukone -another hottie ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm uploading another she is such a beauty as Stven Irwin would have siad . This Bollywood blog thing is treasure trove - I managed to negotiate again with the site to remove some of the watermarks on many of their images -this is why there now are some more clear available although many still have it on ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

See Category:Images from Bollywood Blog. Its looking terrific. our Bollywood gallery. Excellent work on the new article. You really show your strengths when you create new articles also. I've just been doing some work on Israel ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 15:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You know with some references and expansion perhaps on production we could get Deewangee up to DYK. Its a damn good start ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I have an older film request. For some reason Benaam (1974 film) is redirecting to the 2007 remake. It needs an article. I believe it star Amitabh Bachan ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry mate but it isn't at all. The lists are supposed to mention the main characters or most prominent in the film. Any mention of the key cast members is useful and Pa is doing a great job. Please don't ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The most important thing is that even the titles are put into the lists but if it has info this is evne better to start with. At a later date more actors can be added if relevant but it is off to a good start. Don't worry if the details on actors are not fully complete yet - it is far more important the films are added to the lists . Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Well for instance Die Hard 3. Now who are the main characters - Would you say it is POV for Bruce Willis to be mentioned as a main character? From the many clips of Bollywood films from the 1970s particular the Romance films often there were two or three main characters -often these people were featured on the poster of film as they were central to the story. If for some reason soembody vandalised it because it was missing two or three actors then I'm sure it would be reverted soon enough. Ideally the lists should mention four to five actors but different films often have a differing number of central characters. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Now hang on. Are you talking about the introduction or the actors of each film in the tables. I thought you were talking about the number of actors mentioned in the tables for each films ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I thought you were talking about the number of cast mentioned for each film . DId you mean about mentioning actors in the introduction ? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Well? If you are talking about mentioning a few actors in intro for the whole decade then it can appear as POV and should perhaps not be in there - as of course there were many prominent actors . Are you talking about this? I thought you were on about the content in tables - please respond thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah amigo. Ah well thats clears a lot of things up!!!! LOL!! To be honest I was a little confused - I was sure you were talking about how many actors should be mentioned in tables for each film!!! Pa did mention about writing a good intro - but its probably best not to mention the actors in thinking about it - POV at first didn't occur to me. As it is now its fine I think and is referenced. If you can think of anyhting else important than please add it. Hey did you really like Zora? I know he/she founded the Indian cinema group and proabably has done the greatest work in the past for the group - but from what I remember she was quite rude to many people. I know when I told her I was creating a list of missing films to help the project she snapped at me big time ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC).

LOL!!! Not offended but was confused what you were talking about!! Good going on the 80s!! Saludos! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Pretty rude from what I remember - disagreeable with many people. I'm sure User:Etlantik and a few others thought she was rude. In fact I remember feeling quite shocked at the response I and others got from her -quite nasty in fact -it seemed well out of order. A great wikipedian would be able to put aside disagreements and move on with helping the project not give up. She did a great deal of good for Indian cineam on wiki I'll give her that. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

For films by year see

• http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Years/

Select a year you want a list from e.g 1980. ON the left select by language and click hindi -and there you go. Goood luck! Heads up (meaning good start) on Zintas Canadian film ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:32, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Not that I know of -there probably is somewhere on one of the Bollywood sites. It works for me - I've just added 1960 and there so much missing!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

You probably looked for India not Hindi. See [Please press my button Shahid. Pretty please with sugar on top] ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Great news. I've learned how to digitally enhance or crop images. That site has the very latest images which can be cropped easily and modified. It also has a great number of other people other than actors. See Tushar Gandhi and Dil Dosti Etc which I've added to today. Now how many encyclopedia's would have an image of the film premiere in just three days ofter the films release? !! If you have any images you want cropped or whatever please let me know or leave them on the project image page. Basically we can now have any of the photos on that site as we can manipulate them to remove the watermark ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 14:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Yep Two new images for Madhuri Dixit ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

No I don't bother watching pages at all. I am only editing a lot on Bollywood pages to get the images sorted out particularly today. Then I can move on. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I managed to crop an image of my bald head also ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. Yes I am cropping them and altering the colour and contrast to make them look more attractive. The site even has images of more obscure actors, models and people. If they are with somebody or have a watermark bring the image to me and I'll crop them out of it and digitally alter it so we have the desired image -we should have images of most of Bollywood soon enough ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

One thing I love about Bollywood actors and actresses is their clothes. The jeans and shirts and leather jackets and shoes they wear are super -always looking mint- I've always tried to copy that designer style with my own dress code. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I've just found two free images of Brad Pitt and Angelina jolie taken in Pune from that site -I'll upload and see what I can do ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Sari's look great. I also like sarongs on women in south east asia. Beautiful and colourful. Many women in my country just wear black long sleeve t shirts and jeans ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC) I had a go at altering Angelina Jolie removing the ugly people from the background . I wonder what people think of it. I also added a new image of Pitt taken from Bollywood blog ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

There we go. What Angelina would look like postage stamp style

Image:S.Khan.jpg was not easy to do. I've added some new ones - you'll probably find some fault in it but it is better I think ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC).

Well tough luck ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

LOL! He kind of looks a bit like Sylvester Stallone blown up!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I kindly ask you though to stop removing so many red links though. I know you are trying to tidy but you are shutting off potential new articles. In my experience several red links of missing articles encourages editors to create them and expand the encyclopedia further. Thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Well I disagree. Deactivating links in infoboxes is fine but there is no harm in a few red links in the article at all particularly if they are important articles that are missing - although if you are about to propose for a FA then this is approproate . I also consider it rude to speak in capital letters as if you are shouting, which I have noticed you do to several people. PLease do not speak to me in capital letters again. Thankyou ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 06:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I've started about 15 new articles and counting from the Govinda article or related links. Filling in gaps can be done in a small amount of time and it is much more beneficial for the encyclopedia. Ridding of two red links in Govindas article for instance rids of two red links in Preeti Jhangiani etc etc -it has a chain effect and each article in turn then connects to at least another 10 etc. The articles are connected in many different articles this is why it is important not to shut them all off purely for aesthetic purposes. The best thing to do is the either leave a specific request on the Indian cinema notebook page for red links which need articles immediately or stub them yourself or give me a list of red links you have found in top Indian cinema bio articles that require filling. A stub is better than nothing and sets a good basis to expand and build the encyclopedia further on. This way we no longer have the ugly red links, the encyclopedia is increasingly connected to the max and there is no hiding what it doesn't have which is the easy way out.

Warmest Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:09, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

In those fifteen or so articles I have now rid of some 100 red links in total in many of the actor filmographies. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Now if you could fix Govindas filmography giving it the good ole silver treatment and ordering I'll aim to start every film he's ever starred in on wikipedia in an hour or two!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:18, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

"THANKS"!! (LOL). If you look there is no text directly copywrighted for these articles . However as I was using the imdb plot as a source and tried to rewrite it in my own words it may appear similar. If there were several sites with the plot I could get a better persepctive a write a completely individual plot which would not resemble imdb in the slightest. The best thing is to set these articles up (a try to avoid familiar text)!! Adios ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to add plots to Ssukh etc if you know a good source and are able to write in your own words which I know you've done well in the past ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I also found an image for Aarti Chhabria another hottie! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Devipuram article

Thanks for your kind words. I'm surprised you happened upon it, but gratified that you liked it. (Devi bhakta 03:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC))

Rahul's message

No Problem Shahid!! Thanks for creating a separate page for the Female winners. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 17:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Shahid I wanted to ask you something. I was editing Tabu's page and it said that she won a Best Debut Award in 1994 but when I clicked on the link it says that Sonali Bendre won it. Do you know who won the "Female Debut" award in 1994? Before you took out the female winners from the original Filmfare Best Debut Award page, it said that Tabu had won it[1] but the new page for the female winners indicated that Sonali Bendre won it.[2] I'm confused.. Could you help?? Thanks --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 17:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay! Thanks --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 18:02, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Congrats on making Zinta a GA. You're hard work has finally paid off!! All the best in making it a FA. Best Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 19:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Manisha

Hi. I actually meant to reply earlier about this many weeks back but forgot. Anyway I had watched the film Saudagar a few months back and it said "Introducing Manisha Koirala" in the starting credits of the film so I am very much certain it was her first film. And if you google Manisha koirala then the links say that her bollywood debut was Saudagar. Shakirfan 18:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Neetu Chakra

Have you heard of Neetu Chandra? I found a nice image on the blog and started the article. Now how many stubs have an image immediately!! I also learned about Divya Bharti. Was she murdered? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 14:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi I'm back. Whats up ? I don't know what it is today I feel really drowsy and my concentration levels are low so I can't be editing much. I managed to find us some images of Asha Bhosle and her sister Lata. Its a shame we can't get some images of when they were young. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

All I can suggest is that you upload an image of either of them when they were young and add a full rationale to explain why an image is needed to identify them in their youth and prime and how encyclopedic this is. Then state a replaceable free image is impossible as it was over 40 years ago. I've seen this approved in places where is it not feasible to find an image of them when they are retired or something. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm feeling pretty ill today so I'll cut it short. I've added some images to the Bollywood page to what I believe are some of the highest earners and critically acclaimed in the industry today. I am however keen to avoid any issues of POV which you might be concerned about and reverting it. Is there some source that states the highest earners in the Bollywood film industry today? If so it could become: The Top Ten highest earning actors in Bollywood today and be referenced to avoid any selective POV issues. Now I may have missed out some actors or actresses which you consider more prominent than these but I'm pretty sure these are amongst the most popular. Could you find some source which indicates most acclimaed or highest earnign to make this valid. I'd hate for it to be rmeoved from the article. Thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

You reverted it already without any discussion ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Well it does seem a shame to have all the images of Bollywood people and not include any at all in the article. I agree with you about POV (I was just amazed you were so quick to react and revert) this is why I believe it would be right to find a list of the highest earners to make it valid. It seems a shame to remove any indication of some of the most prominent actors in the industry just for the sake of POV. From a different perspective if I was reading an encyclopedia article on Bollywood I would want to know who some of the most famous actors and actresses are but it fails to do this ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:21, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

If you disagree with that- I really think the page needs a table or something of the actors who have won the most awards or something in contemporary Indian cinema. Could you create a table of the Top 10 actors who have received the most awards and nominations or something? This way POV selection can't be disputed and it gives some information which is pretty important that is at present missing ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree its difficult to write an article about a whole industry and to mention some people at the expense of others. However I do believe there needs to be some information on the highest awarded (most Filmfare Awards won for example) to give the reader an indication of who the officially most acclaimed people are in the industry without POV but based on fact. Just a suggestion -it was something important I believed that was missing . ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes its a difficult one as often most awards won don't correlate to gross earnings. Martin Scorses is perhaps the biggest example of this. It is difficult to mention anybody at all without a POV issue as you say but this means knowledge of the most prominent in the industry is missing. Have a think- I am impressed by your keeness to keep the encyclopedia completely neutral. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Muuch better amigo!. If possible some of highest grossing films could also be mentioned but it is an improvement. Are you familiar with Hema Malini - you can tell she was good looking when she was younger -she has to be one of the best looking 60 year olds I've seen!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I can tell she looks classy and is very pleasant looking -she looks a lovely person. I've just started an article on Parvin Dabbas. I uploaded the image thinking we had it but the article didn;t exist!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I haven't could you suggest any? I bet she was a stunner. I really have to get some Bollywood films -youtube only shows the songs. I want to see all of the films not just clips of them -I;d get a much better impression of hindi films this way. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Shes the same age as my dad!!! Lol! I think I'll try to buy the dvd of Sholay. It looks good and contains some of the top actors. Do you know if it is available in English dubbed or with English subtitles? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 22:00, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Esplendido!!! Is there no end to beautiful Bollywood actresses!! I don't think many people outside Indian actually realize how many beautiful women there actually are. I love Malaika Arora Khan and her sister also!! I found an image of her and her husband also ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 22:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

They are starting to looking good aren't they with every new image uploaded!!. This is only just the beginning of course!! Its time the world realised how many beautiful people there are in the industry. I always knew there were some stunners like Aishwarya Rai and Shilpa Shetty but I never realised how many!! I enjoy uploading their images they really are stunning to look at. Thanks for your adjustments to Dabas -I;m sure there are many missing articles on lesser known actors which have images. Hey I'm feeling really sick tonight -I had a chicken curry last night and there was something wrong with it -I hope I haven't got a stomach bug from it or something. Anyway great talking to you I'm off to bed to try and sleep it off!! All the best amigo ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 22:33, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow check out the image crop Image:Vidya2.jpg. Perfect. I've uploade some images for new new films Bhool. This is the cool thing about the license in that we can upload bang up to date images! Ine thing though. Could you check to see whether Shiny Ahuja's birth date is 1973 or 1969. Some sources say 1969. Thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 08:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Lol!! Now heres one I thought I'd never create. Kavita Bhartiya. Ah free images of fashion models alsomakes this pretty cool huh? Apparently Shilpa, Lara Dutta and the Afghan Celina Jaitely all modelled at the Wills Lifestyle India Fashion Week. Aicarumba Image:Neha1.jpg. !! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Koena Mitra meeyow. Hey when you have a moment can you fix Chunky Pandey's filmography thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 14:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Heres another good one. Dolly Thakore was the casting director for the 1982 Acadeny Award winning film Gandhi!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 15:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Muy bueno! Gracias. Yes I've found I can crop almost any image on there which is a huge bonus -Shilpa Shetty once did not have any images!!!. I got us a decent image of SRK but his page keeps getting vandalised by anonymous. It gets very annoying those niggly little disruptions. Koena and Neha are gorgeous!!!! I've put Neha on my user page ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you check this image and let me know if this is Mithun Chandrakorty or whatever his name is I'm not sure. If so I'll upload it is immediately thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

No I am surprised he doesn't even have a page ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:21, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes I happened to notice your new article when I checked the new pages nice going -I used my new rationale template to silence the image taggers. Yes this Hindu Boar is a bit of a "bore". I have even been speaking with the director of Caledonian Publishing agian today and despite all hes done he is willing to set the record straight again. I wish people would stop fussing about images which already have officially recognized ticketing and stop trying to ruin everything and contribute to the content of the encyclopedia instead. No need to worry - an admin has assured me he will be blocked if he persists on disrupting. I aim to get American films of 1946 and 1948 done tonight its going well I have done much of 1942 and 1944 over the last day or two. I printed one year off earlier and it looks great printed out -really encyclopedic and helpful -it also gives me a chance to check out some of these classic films (but most are bad stubs). Best regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Here [3] but all you do is click recent changes and then select new. I view it pretty often to see how it is growing and wikify new articles. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Great new article - I've already nominated it for a DYK for you before seeing your message. You may want to reference it a bit more and perhaps stub that German festival or something ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:20, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I tell you who I think its the world's most beautiful woman. See Shania Twain . I love her so much!!! Everything about Shania Twain from her voice, her skin, her teeth ,her eyes and her hair just really strikes a chord with me. She's just the epitome of female beauty for me and is exactly the sort of woman I love. Google image her also and you'll see what I mean!!. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:28, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I know. Some people don't like her but I can say that for me she is exactly the type of woman to fall in love with!!! Many agree she is most often cited in the TOP 100 worlds most beautiful women but I think she is above people like J lo and all that. I think she is perfect. Evangeline Lilly and Catherine Zeta Jones (Wales's finest) also have similar looks and I rate them highly too ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

E.g see this image. Hey whats up with the toolbar? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:59, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Dunno. I had a problem with my user last week I couldn;t change my skin. I had to press enter instead. Try changing your skin temporarily or seomthing and see if it makes a difference ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

It might have something to do with User:Shshshsh/monobook.js ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:22, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes constantly but remember my setting is probably about as different from yours as it can get. I have a waifer thin screen, use cologne blue, have the screen settings to a blue tone, have my toolbar on the left in a column, and use the font Callisto and have my main page set at User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Main as a default. I long tired of the standard setting . Perhaps you could ask somebody at the help desk ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I use Firefox I think. You can create your own main page with Preity Zinta on or something!! It took me ages to learn how to alter the settings and fonts ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:14, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I've noticed this article several times partly because i added an image and partly because she is Nepalese born, a country I am highly interested in and have done much wiki work on. Its taking shape nicely at present just needs a reference or two in the intro. The Zinta article makes an excellent role model for the other Indian cinema articles such as this to aspire to, I don;t know why it is taking so damn long to be reviewed - lazy tossers!!! The best thing to be done at present is to add some of the missing articles in the filmography first and then develop this further. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

It's comin on good boyo. KUTGW. As Axl Rose would say "Yowzer"!!!!! I bid you adieu. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know - every time you see a LOL from me this is what is being emitted!!! [4]!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Quite ingenius. My evil intellect must be rubbing off on you!! Your message was great timing I've not been on here much all day and have just sitting down to eat!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC) Ohhhh . Check out how gorgeous she looks here, shes such a doll: [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk • contribs) 17:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I can't help it I'm crazy about her!! LOL! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeh I know! I swear Shania's husband Robert Lange is the luckiest guy alive. Not only does he get to spend the rest of his life with her but he is a record producer for some of my favorite bands such as Def Leppard and Bryan Adams. He wrote Everything I do I do it for you .He gets to work with such greatness - (I've seen Def Leppard four times!) and is a billionaire I think . Now thats a perfect life for you ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:12, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you heard of Def leppard? Its quite unique in that they are huge in America since the early 1980s - they are English but are actually more popular in the UNited States which is rare as it is a very difficult market to break into. At some of the concerts in England there were hundreds of die hard American rock fans in the audience! The band Steel Dragon in the movie Rock Star (film) starring Mark Warlberg and Jennifer Aniston was partly based on them and featured some of the songs. Check out Hysteria. The songs sounds about ten times better live. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:39, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Leppard are very similar to Bon Jovi, Aeromsith, Whitesnake and Guns n Roses - hard rock but with soul and feeling -those classic rock ballads. These are amongst my favourite bands. Joe Satriani is a world master guitarist, his compositions speak words and meaning wihtout lyrics. Its beautiful. Have a look at Rubina ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh i forgot! Yes I have heard of Ofra Haza was one of Israel's biggest singers. She is about the only Israeli singer I've heard of except the tranny Dana International!! I'm afraid the general UK general market is quite shallow to world music , it is almost entirely dominated by British and American and Australian music -its the same with films, TV etc etc. Its quite sad really that many of these world singers and cultures don't recieve much mainstream attention over here. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

The writing in the Abbas article is about 98% mine although Sangak is responsible for referencing and upkeep. Its very poetic isn't it. It has been cut a bit and minor edited by a few - I think it was better at a fuller length. I was asked by Sangak back in about February to help him and I decided to spend a week or two concentrating on a FA. It went from start class to FA in about two weeks. It was one of the rare occasions i have decided to develop articles all the way as so much needs doing with start and stub class articles which dominate most of my editing time. I did get some time to write Casino Royale (2006 film) back in April but took months to finally reach FA also. All that was changed was the referencing and a few sentences. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I am quite surprised we are allowed to keep Image:Kiarostamiwithscorcese.jpg. For me these are perhaps the two greatest living film directors on the planet today ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I know I should concentrate more on writing but don't think that minor edits on stub/start class articles aren't important also. For me it is of chief importance to try to set out the foundations of the project first and create a more even start to avoid systematic bias and then to begin to develop articles fully afterwards. So much needs doing in turning stubs into start class articles that it tends to take over most of my edits at present. Writing full length quality articles takes a lot of effort and work and time also. That Zinta article is taking ridiculously long to review. Auf Wiedersehn. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

44,50,00,000 looks like 44,500,000 -44 million 500 thousand but it is more likely to be 445,000,000 as in 445 million. Its written strangely isn;t it -two digits is a wrong way of applying it. I have no idea what the going currency rates are or how much this is is dollars or pound sterling. It might be a good idea to list the top highest grossing films in a table on the Bollywood page though ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

According to the on line currency converter the figure is equivalent to £55,521,31.04 -about 55 million pounds. Judging by how huge the Indian is and the number of people who see these films I would have thought it would be higher. I've heard that Preity Zinta and Bacchan, Salman Khan and Shadrukh Khan are actually watched by more people than even Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt because of Indias 1 billion population ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks like 445 million then. That would be about right ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 22:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC) Mmm. I'd stick to millions. Although the crore article explains what it is its less confusing as millions. ALl the gross references on other world films are in milions whatever the currency ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC) That sounds great gross would be one of the first columns I'd imagine and reviews etc at the end. Sorry I am in the middle of getting extremely peed off with this Beta bot which keeps giving me 50 kb images of ones I have already tagged for deletion . Its a flamin nightmare!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC) It keeps giving me repeat messages of images I have already corrected or put up for deletion. Once is enough but twice and three times is taking the Jacob's cream cracker ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC) I don't mind so much 10 different images for tagging. What is annoying me is that it is giving me two or three repeat messages for each of the 10 images!!. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC) "Hurrah for Dixie"!!! (As was said in the Good the Bad and the Ugly) . Its been a long time coming and I told you it was easily a GA before. It looks like an A class to me which with some work has FA potential. Congrats ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:30, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Crikey when do you sleep??? !! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC) Yes you need to address the points on the talk page which are minor. Personal life needs to be moved up to the top -see the Abbas Kiarostami article ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Much of that section is background and puts it in its context. On the Angelina article family and early life also goes first. Now if you could expand that relationships section or something we could move it down into a seperate paragraph ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I am about to upload a few more images which I have cropped and enhanced. I think you also need to be more specific with her modelling. You often say in various commericla or whatever. This will need to be more precise and actually cite some of the things she has modelled for ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC) There is no way to get rid of the watermark unfortunately without seriously damging the image unfortunately ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC).

No I've tried it looks awful see Image:PreityZinta6.jpg. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC) It looks awful. It doesn't have a clear image of her face anyway ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC) Yeah I tried to overwrite it but it just went blaahhh. LOL! I've ulpoaded the sunglasses one but I wish they didn't have to ruin the images with that watermark. Nevermind the few we have is way better than none as before ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC) I wish there was some way to keep her fit body in the picture but the best I could do with that is her face again ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 11:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Kareena Kapoor was only possible because the watermark only covered part of her neck ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:12, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Trust me it can't be done without seriously damaging it. I think thats enough now anyway it looks fine -I would have liked that red dress image though I agree ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:25, 12 October 2007 (UTC) OK I'm done with it for today. Its better than it was - you should propose it for a A tomorrow. See if you can add anything else about those commercials she was in etc ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Theres nothing much in those sources I don't think . We can't really say "she was a naughty girl" LOL!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you could mention that she is a keen athlete since her childhood and is into fitness or mention her height or something. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Back

Hello, Shahid,

I guess I'm back, yes. However, you guys are much faster than me. Whenever I go to a page to change something, you have already done it. Lots of people seem to be working on the Indian Cinema Project and Rani Mukherjee's article seems to be a quite place these times. Good work! Best regards, --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 18:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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Preity Zinta

I don't think I'll be able to help with that particular photo of Preity Zinta. The position of the watermark, running across her throat and curled hair makes it problematic. Sorry. Feel free to ask if you come across another image you'd like to use. — WiseKwai 15:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

That photo can be cropped easily at chest level, however it is pretty small - even at its maximum width of around 155 pixels, the quality isn't that great. Not to be argumentative, but I notice there are several nice photos already on the article. How will yet another image contribute to the article? — WiseKwai 16:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation. It makes sense to me. So cropping that second image wouldn't served to illustrate her fitness. If you do come across another image that you think is workable, let me know. — WiseKwai 16:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Groan groan. Shahid why did you ask WiseKwai to alter the image when I told you the position of it was awkward and couldn't be altered? Didn't I say he wouldn't be able to do it? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

In fact I told you twice!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

No worries just thought I made it clear that it couldn't be done by anybody - I agree it was a hot image of her though. The info about her father and athletics is good but you'll need to cut out the gossip-esque words. Tally ho chaps! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Its fine. Its sad that both Preity and Shania lost their parents in an accident. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I don't know what it is I've felt drowsy all week, its like all my energy has gone and I find it difficult to concentrate on stuff. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 18:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Its not the curry. I don't know I've had it a while I think I am going to have an allergy test or something. It kind of makes me feel really tired and unable to concentrate on something. Its like my head is spinning - I've tried getting some fresh air or whatever but it isn't that. Hey are you gonna propose Zinta for an A yet? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Yep give it a go. You've worked alot on it the last two days and it has new pictures. Just make sure you reference those new parts you added and send. Knowing the process it'll probably be Christmas before it is looked at anyway (chuckle chuckle). ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah but you've readded some of the stuff I removed yesterday about her buddies and that which isn't appropriate ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

The buddy and female counterpart thing wasn't a good idea but the rest is OK. I still think you should move the part about her fathers death in with the car accident part so it flows. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Looks pretty good now I think. It is an excellent source of encyclopedic information which is what its about. Good luck! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC) Hopefully we can find another image to go in the early career section as it is a bit bare. Hey I was quite chuffed to see my name in User:Arcayne's page!! I find it great that somebody in Chicago and many other places know of my evil organization! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 20:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Please don't what?? I said hopefully we can find a new image to fill the gap. Did I say something about restoring the blurry dark image? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC) I think the article is looking very good amigo. I should propose it for an A asap . The we can focus on that much deserved FA. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC) It would be good if you could find out how or why she entered into modelling. There is a little gap there from the time she finished college to modelling. Did somebody suggest it to her? , how did she land a modlelling contract? and with whom? etc ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC) It seems like she gained a criminal psychology degree and then suddenly she was a model and actress where there is no indication of this change in path ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC). Exactly what I was looking for! Good. This should be added as it does fill in the only gap I could see. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

We need some time indication of when Preity met Kapur . The references to date and context in this period is pretty vague ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 00:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

OK I agree but the GA reviewer was keen to define her film career ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 00:44, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

As Aretha Franklin and my main man Ali G would say R.E.S.P.E.C.T.! Thanks. Yes it is very important to make the article flow - I gather you've noticed such changes of mine which jumble half sentences to fit early ones and joining sentences etc. Its like playing a game of chess -planning the right moves to get us our checkmate (the bronze star)!!. FA quality articles natually demand this. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 01:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC) Yes sorry I was a little late in replying I've been busy with some Filipino stuff. Yes we need to be careful with sources. Just because it is an Intenret source indeed doesn't ensure its validity. If you have any doubt then leave it out. See if you can find another source to support it ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 13:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

CNN is a reliable source so use it. Add all that you can then. We might be able to get a seperate modelling section after all ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 14:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Have u been watched movie !

Both two actors are not in film ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aung Phyoe (talk • contribs) 15:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

I am not shouting sorry. I just inform u Ok ! Enjoy ur movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aung Phyoe (talk • contribs) 15:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Well Done

I knew this meant a LOT to you! Fantastic and it was long in the waiting. What's your next project? Universal Hero 19:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Kareena Kapoor

Thanks Shahid, Thank you very much for giving me pointers with Kareena Kapoor's article. So you're saying to keep formality I should change wherever it says Kareena to either "Kapoor" or "She". Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 22:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Shahid do you think the breakthrough section needs to be expanded in Kapoor's page. I mean after 2001, talking about 2002 and 2003. She had six releases from 2002-2003 and they all flopped. Do you think it's okay how it is or should I expand it? Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 23:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay! Thanks! I really appreciate your advice as you've become one of those editors whose opinion is really important to me! Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 23:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm waiting! --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 23:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow Shahid!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! I can't believe that you consider me worthy of this branstar!! LOL!! Once again thank you very much for the barnstar and all the best! P.S. Can't wait to watch Om Shanti Om. A film that has most of my favorite actors: Shahrukh Khan, Kajol, Preity Zinta, Karisma Kapoor, Rani Mukerji, Salman Khan, Vidya Balan and Saif Ali Khan. BTW, Preity looks DAMN HOT in the OSO promo on indiafm. =) Best Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 00:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey Shahid!! Thanks for your inputs and desire to help make Kareena Kapoor's article become better!! I really appreciate it!! Best Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 01:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hema Sardesai

On 14 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hema Sardesai, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 16:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Congrats. I told you it was a DYK !! Good work. Did you think anything more about that Zinta modelling info? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Hello friend. I came to your user page from today's DYK Hema Sardesai. I see you have done a LOT of great jobs in Bollywodd related articles. I was wondering if you can try for getting some Bollywood related articles to Featured status. So far, the only two Indian cinema related featured articles are Satyajit Ray and Lage Raho Munna Bhai. There are several articles that are in really good shape, including Preity Zinta, and probably Shilpa Shetty. Some more works should get those featured status. What do you think? Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Yes Blofeld is an excellent contributor. I checked the source of the photos. Those are in CCbySA 2.0, so there should not be any problem, provided the photos actually belong to the website. It is a blog, so there is chance that they themselves are using photos from elsewhere. Preity Zinta seems to be in great shape. I will try to go through it, You can also start a peer review now.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:ANI

If you want, you can say something here. Gnanapiti 18:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Peer review/Asha Bhosle

Wikipedia:Peer review/Asha Bhosle/archive1 is on my watchlist. I've already started working on the suggestions; will keep updating the article. utcursch | talk 11:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to make any changes you deem necessary. utcursch | talk 12:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Sources of Yolandita Monge's article

Sorry but that's really bothering, I had sent you this message,

"...Hey I noticed your last addition on the Yolandita Monge article. It's fine be. It is very well written yet it's unsourced. Can you tell me please where does this stuff come from? Waiting for your reply, thanks...."

And you removed it from your talk page. Please reply to this message, or provide reliable sources on the page of this singer. If you don't do that within 24 hours, I'll remove/revert your additions from the page. Shahid • ^Talk2me 18:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for having removed your message and the delay in answering you, I'm a very busy man. Although there are no specific sources for the additions, they are part of a well known story, that has been extensively documented in entertainment magazines in Puerto Rico for many, many years. Furthermore, I don't see any reference to sources for the contents of the article prior to my additions, but if you feel the need to remove my additions, go ahead, feel free to do it. However, it would deny a lot of people not familiar with the real story the chance to know the truth at a time when she has become the most talked about entertainer in Puerto Rico. Best regards: --Entre-Nos 03:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

"...OK, we'll leave it. Perhaps needs some rewriting, but OK. Thanks, Shahid..." • Talk2me 11:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, Shahid. Best regards: --Entre-Nos 15:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)