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Hello, TheInimitableECypher, and Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{Help me}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking if shown; this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field with your edits. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Jaellee (talk) 07:02, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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October 2015

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Information icon Hello, I'm Jaellee. Your recent edit to the page Park Joo-ho appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. --Jaellee (talk) 07:02, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How was my information about Park Joo-Ho incorrect? I added a goal that I watched him score in stoppage time against Krasnodar (die-hard BVB fan here). He has one goal for BVB. That's all I added to his page. TheInimitableECypher (talk) 16:50, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Personal knowledge of a subject is insufficient evidence to modify a page, as it consists of original research. Please find an independent reliable source that verifies the goal, and it can be added back in. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 16:56, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hi there. Unfortunately, people messing around with numbers in articles (such as goals scored, birth dates, number of copies of an album sold, etc) is a common method of sneaky vandalism. I'm not suggesting that's what you did, but minor changes to numbers without including a link to a source for that information can be seen as suspicious. Unfortunately, you can't use yourself as a source for the information. Do you have a link to maybe a sports report-type website that would show the number of goals scored? If so, I'd include that as a reference when changing that type of information. Cheers, Nick⁠—⁠Contact/Contribs 16:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How's this for a reference? http://www.bvb.de/eng/News/Overview/2-1-Late-Joo-Ho-Park-winner-makes-for-frantic-finish-against-Krasnodar There's still a lot I'm trying to figure out about editing on this site; I just forgot to add a reference on Park Joo-Ho's page. And does that goal not count because it was in the Europa League and not the Bundesliga? TheInimitableECypher (talk) 17:13, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The BVB reporting on their own player would not be considered independent coverage, and I rather doubt the BVB's website is subject to the editorial coverage we require of reliable sources. It is, however, easy to find plentiful news coverage of Park's goal: Deutsche Welle, Boston Herald, New York Times. And of course there's more German-language coverage. Huon (talk) 18:20, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]