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Chronological age moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Chronological age, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Singularity42 (talk) 17:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Chronological age (May 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Gusfriend were:

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The comment the reviewer left was:

References only refer to longest lived human (a dictionary definition), age of consent and Judaic tradition and not the wider context of what age means. For such a topic I would expect to see a number of scholarly publications talking about how it is defined and how it came to be to be included as references. Check out the search here as there are papers about how it affects exercise, subjective age and more. In particular https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/978-1-137-46781-2_2 (DOI:10.1057/978-1-137-46781-2_2) looks interesting.

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Gusfriend (talk) 09:51, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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YouTube and webseries should be on List of years in television

YouTube and webseries are related to the history of television because they are direct competitors to television and because they, along with streaming services, have been causing the slow decline of television. Alongside streaming services, YouTube and webseries are arguably not just competitors to television, but also part of the continuation of television following the slow decline of traditional satellite and cable television; webseries are even referred to as "web television" because they are television, just produced for broadcast via the internet rather than by satellite or cable. It is the same format of media, just distributed from a different source. YouTube and web television are a form of television. Therefore, events in the history of YouTube and web television are relevant to the history of television and should be included in the article.

Also, there currently are no separate articles for information regarding YouTube and web television in the "list of years" format, making the "List of years in television" article the most relevant possible place for this information. 73.139.156.87 (talk) 03:19, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2022

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Mass removal of the word teenager

Hey. I was wondering why you're seemingly removing en-masse the word teenager from many articles? I can see from Johanna Olson-Kennedy you're citing some "grammar law", and that you've used that justification on many other articles according to your edit history. Is there any reason supported by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or manual of style for doing so? Sideswipe9th (talk) 16:03, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm mainly doing it in the senses using "Children and teenagers"; other instances are because the articles are based on medicine or sociology and using "teenager" doesn't sound right since it is mostly a pop culture and marketing term. Plus, "minors" suffices in the more serious-concerned articles. Turboplate (talk) 16:07, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a valid reason to remove the words. I can see per User talk:Amaury#"Common_words" that others have tried to address similar issues with your removal of the words teen and tween. Please stop doing this, and self revert all of these edits as they are all controversial. Teenager is not a pop culture and marketing term, it has long been recognised as a stage of life, and is regularly used in medical and sociological sources that we use. Sideswipe9th (talk) 16:11, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, the term for the stage of life is adolescent. The teenager link even redirects to the Adolescence title. Teenager is only a numeric term which gives an imprecise age range of the development period between puberty and full adulthood, as many scholars have noted. If you did research on the words yourself, you'll find that teenager, teen, and teenage all only debuted in the 20th century in America, initially as slang underground terms used in newspaper articles pertaining to Sunday school classes, then only starting to be widely used by the public around the late 1940s and early 1950s as marketing neologisms used heavily by advertisers to attract a demographc of high school students with media (music, movies, literature, magazines) and merchandising, not yet recognized in everyday usage. See: The Teen Agers and Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers. Also see Harold Teen. These are all the earliest titles to use these terms.

I am strongly against the usage of teenager because it not only arbitrarily determines the end of childhood at 13 entirely based on the number representing one's age now following a numeric pattern, but also because it unfairly segregates anyone 12 years and 364 days old or 20 years and 0 days old just for that reason. Really, saying "Children and teenagers" unfairly lumps 12-year-olds - who are usually pubescent and have begun the cognitive changes occurring in adolescence + transitioned from elementary to secondary school - in the same category as little kids, not to mention arbitrarily lumps 13-year-olds with 17-year-olds just for the numeric-based reason.

I know a 1-year dividing line has to be made somewhere, but basing it primarily on a pattern of the numeral system used only in English is completely illogical and beyond ridiculous, and prematurely determines the end of childhood and entrance into non-childhood.

Adolescent perfectly suffices as an age category to cover young people in the physiological and mental process of transitioning from child to adult, so it doesn't have to make a precise reference to the numeric range to which people belong. Teenager is pretty much the only common noun to make this numeric-based distinction; we rarely use twentysomething outside of casual context.

But most importantly, child on its own works perfectly fine as a substitute since its primary definition is considered to be anyone under the age of 18 in American context and thus interchangeable with minor. Even in non-law or non-familial related articles it is common to see children extending very well up to teenage minors without specifying. Turboplate (talk) 16:40, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As editors, we do not just write for the American context, and in fact we have to be very careful when writing our articles not to take an Americocentric or Europocentric viewpoint in our content.

The edit where I became aware of your making this mass change was at Johanna Olson-Kennedy, a physician who specialises in the treatment of trans youth. Within that context, there are different treatment modalities for trans children and trans teens; for trans children treatment is limited to social transition and support for any concurrent mental health issues, for trans teens in addition to social transition, puberty blocking medication and cross-sex hormones become available depending on the jurisdiction. In the case of Olson-Kennedy's article, it is inaccurate to say "specialises in the care of minors" because there are two separate specialisations involved.

I can point out similar issues with a great many of the over 170 removals you have done today. I'm going to ask one more time, will you please stop making these edits and please self revert these changes? I am now the fourth editor to ask that you stop making changes like this since 19 July. I do not want to have to escalate this to one of the editor conduct boards. Sideswipe9th (talk) 17:01, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 2022

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Concern regarding Draft:Chronological age

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Your draft article, Draft:Chronological age

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:54, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]