User talk:Zahamey

It's not vandalism , according to tarikh askya Mohammed Father name is Abubakar at turi not baru mum Baru lum name is vandalism According to this page askya real name is Mohammed ibn abi bakar at- turi Not inn baru lum I'm from songhay and I'm know my ethnic group history We are not recognized baru lum in our historic traditions

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Soninke people, you may be blocked from editing. Adakiko (talk) 12:27, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Austronesier. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Nilo-Saharan languages, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Austronesier (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

thanks for the reminder I have all the sources at my disposal and I will add them Zahamey (talk) 16:59, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Songhai people‎, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. You say have sources at your disposal, yet you continue to add text without sources? Austronesier (talk) 17:15, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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Content must be verifiable

Content added to Wikipedia needs to be wp:verifiable. People now or in the future may want to find more information on a topic or to check if it is correct. Without this policy, the article might read that the Songhai people live on the International Space Station. You need to wp:cite a wp:reliable source for your entries. Use of one's own knowledge is not verifiable and is classified as wp:original research. Your edits have been saved in the wp:page history. If you restore your content, it must be cited before you click on the "Publish changes" button. You can verify that your edits are correct by clicking on wp:Show preview. wp:Show changes will show you what edits you have made. If you don't add citations, you may be blocked from editing Thank you Adakiko (talk) 11:30, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you I'm new to this topic And I'm having trouble handling certain futures such as adding Sources I'm have them I don't know how to do it So I told myself to finish the additions first then find out how to put the sources and then put them The songhai people page is poor in information and several things concerning the songhai have been badly said, and our history is also stolen from us, like the emperor Askya Mohammed who has been classified as soninke for example I need a bit of coaching so I wouldn't refuse help I am a French speaker. The information I wrote was not wrong. Zahamey (talk) 14:22, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you blank out or remove content from Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Dosso Kingdom. echidnaLives - talk - edits 22:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Songhai People

Hello Friend! Welcome to Wikipedia! I came across the Songhai People article that you have been working on. One thing that I believe would tremendously help is if you could add a citation after each punctuation mark. Just click the "cite" button at the top of your editor screen and you can easily generate citations. Please keep in mind WP:COI when you are contributing to articles that you have a personal connection to. Regards, ShaveKongo (talk) 15:38, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

@Zahamey I noticed you are using the mobile editor. This is a bit more tricky than the visual editor that I use! You will need to review WP:Markup for a breakdown on wikitext ShaveKongo (talk) 15:49, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Your editing is problematic

Whether or not Askia Mohammad I is of the Soninke people is disputed. That he is Soninke appears to be more supported than not. Do you have a source supporting the latter? You need to discuss this on talk:Soninke people and get wp:consensus before replacing. Please don't wp:Edit war. Your edit here changed Sadio Gassama, from the singular "Malian politician" to the plural "Malian politicians". Why is one man two politicians? A superfluous asterisk " * " was left. Please be more careful with your edits.

two edits&oldid= to Songhai people are mostly unsourced. You did add one source, so you appear to know how to add them. See help:referencing for beginners - this is required reading. You now should know how to add citations and you have no excuse not to. If you can not find a source, please don't add that content. You did not capitalize proper nouns - example: Niger River (the R in river was not capped) "sonhay ganda", "ayneha ganda". If it is a formal name of a place, it would be a proper name and should be capped. Your addition of these and other "* kogori", "* Namari", "* Fakara", and others were not properly indented resulting in malformed text. Please check your edits with wp:Show preview before clicking "Publish changes".

There are many more issues with your editing which I won't bring up here.

As your edits are repeatedly problematic and you seem to not showing any improvement, you may find a discussion started on wp:Administrators Noticeboard/Incidents (ANI). This would be the next step to getting you wp:blocked. Adakiko (talk) 22:15, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Askia are emperor of Songhai Empire , son of kassey sister of sunni Ali ber and Songhai men abubakar at turi of sohankey Songhai subclan not from soninke

the soninke origin was only a hypothesis born from a bad interpretation of the tarikh sudan by Delafosse who did not master the Songhai language

you are making a rumor official

the songhai of whom he is the emperor have more right to claim him than anyone

our history is being usurped and we have realized this is where the campaign against misinformation against us that we are leading by restoring the truth

the purge was carried out on other sites but here you are preventing us from restoring the truth112 / 5 000

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the English can document on the French-speaking regions so it is easy for people to come and write what they want Zahamey (talk) 22:33, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Luckily, it is not "easy for people to come and write what they want" in Wikipedia. So far, you have a record of adding content in various articles without citing sources. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia based on reliable sources. Please comply with our standards of verifiability if you want to contribute here. –Austronesier (talk) 22:38, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

I would have liked to put a lot of sources but the English authors may have written about the Songhai, and I am only mainly French sources Zahamey (talk) 22:53, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

whoever wrote askia's name on the soninke page didn't put a source either Zahamey (talk) 22:59, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Please thread your edits per wp:THREAD.

Non-English wp:RS sources are perfectly acceptable. Adakiko (talk) 23:50, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

• See Verifiability, not truth Adakiko (talk) 00:05, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

He's soninke origins not sure and he is not he's official origins

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Askia Muhammad was born in Gao. His father, Baru Lum, was of Toucouleur or Soninke ancestry, with ancestors hailing from the Senegal River valley. His mother was named Kassey and is said in oral tradition to have been the sister of Sonni Ali. Zahamey (talk) 14:23, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

The main factions of the Songhai are the "Si Hamey" and the "Mamar Hamey". The Si Hamey (meaning: descendants of Sonni), as the name implies, are the descendants and partisans of the Sonnis, while the "Mamar Hamey" are the descendants and partisans of Askia Mohammad I whose vernacular name among the Songhai is "Mamar". It is also worth noting that both groups use the title surname "Maiga" (meaning, "King or Prince"). Zahamey (talk) 14:30, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Askia a Songhai

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tant qu'il n'a pas été trancher officiellement de l'origine de l'askia s'il est Songhai par son père où pas par les sources , les groupes suggérer n'ont droit à officialiser quoique ce soit de leur côté sa mère est Songhai , il est empereur de l'Empire Songhai , ces decsendants sont Songhai et utilise le patronyme Songhai Maiga le fait d'inclure l'askia dans la liste des personnalités soninke est du vandalisme historique clear

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as long as it has not been officially decided on the origin of the askia if he is Songhai by his father or not by the sources, the groups suggesting have no right to formalize anything on their side his mother is Songhai, he is Emperor of the Songhai Empire, these decsendants are Songhai and uses the surname Songhai Maiga including askia in the list of soninke personalities is historical vandalism Zahamey (talk) 14:42, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

I am sorry if I gave you the impression of leading an editorial war, such is not my intention, it is a serious site and I know that you only act to maintain the order and the authenticity of the information I am open to everyone but it is also my duty to denounce the false, the historical extrapolation, the theft of the history of others as a member especially when I have a link with those stealing Écouter content_copy

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Zahamey (talk) 14:49, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

The Songhai must be restored in their right concerning the askia Mohamed who is one of their ancestors I had the impression that you were more pro to a soninke origin of the askia than Songhai That's the impression I got, sorry if not. Écouter content_copy

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Zahamey (talk) 14:53, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you very much I will be careful to follow the editing rule Zahamey (talk) 15:44, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

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Let’s Collaborate

Dear Zaa Hamey,

I hope this message finds you well. I noticed that you have made several contributions to the Songhai history pages on Wikipedia and I wanted to reach out to you to discuss further. As someone who is also of Songhai heritage, I am deeply concerned about the accuracy of the information presented on these pages. I have made some corrections and added new pages, but I believe that together we can do even more to ensure that the history of the Songhai people is accurately represented.

Would you be interested in collaborating with me online to discuss and address any misinformation or gaps in the current Songhai history pages? I believe that with your in-depth knowledge of the subject, we can work together to make a positive impact on the accuracy and representation of our shared heritage.

Thank you for your time and I hope to hear back from you soon. You can alternatively send me an email (dawudibrahim100@gmail.com)

Ibdawud (talk) 16:07, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

thank you also for your efforts and contributions. I would be happy to work with you to write the history of Songhai correctly and rid it of inconsistencies. you speak French ? Zahamey (talk) 20:47, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Indeed I know a lot about our ethnicity and I will be happy to share it with you. things have taken a lot of our history and heritage to put it together, we have to put things back in order. Zahamey (talk) 20:50, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Send me an email dawudibrahim100@gmail.com Ibdawud (talk) 21:03, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion of your edits at ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 13:35, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

You need to stop adding unsourced text and respond to the above. The section heading says CIR editor?. CIR means competence is required. Doug Weller talk 19:15, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

January 2023

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for Continued additions of unsourced material after warnings, text such as “ The Guimi koy where guimey bani koy was the head of the ports.” Seems to be using oral material they are familiar with and finding sources that vaguely relate, acknowledged ANI discussion through “like”.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Doug Weller talk 18:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand you, yet I sourced everything I edited, everything, I mean everything. Admittedly, I am a novice in editing and putting the sources correctly is a bit of a problem for me, but this time if I was careful to source everything. I'm not in an edit war against anyone here like you think, I'm just contributing. I don't know where your problem is. guimi koy is the port manager and i put my source. Zahamey (talk) 07:53, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

http://www.ankhonline.com/civilisations_africaines/civilisations_africaines_songhai.htm. It's my source Zahamey (talk) 07:56, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Army organization ( Songhai empire, zarmatarey, Zabarma Emirate), war animals and other: https://www.jstor.org/stable/25653233.

file:///storage/emulated/0/Android/media/com.transsion.phoenix/Pages%20hors%20ligne/Les%20cavaliers%20aux%20vautours.%20Les%20conqu%C3%AAtes%20zerma%20dans%20le%20Gurunsi%20(1856-1900)%20-%20Pers%C3%A9e.mht

res1314277_VOLUME-4.pdf

all that is but Sources that I put you can go there to check the veracity of the contributions that I made. you talk about oral source, written sources come from many oral sources and I am not ignorant to publish oral sources. your blocking is an injustice to me.

I have provided more details and source than the previous one Zahamey (talk) 08:07, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

You need to use the unblock template. Doug Weller talk 08:48, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Link to the ANI discussion

[1] Doug Weller talk 08:48, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

good evening ,. I don't actually understand why I was blocked, if you think that some of the sources are taken from oral tradition, however, you will not refuse that they are still sources. the majority of what I edited is verifiable, you can check on the sources I put. you decided to block me for lack of source without taking into account the writings with credible sources. you even don't edit on the Songhai pages which I found very vague compared to the other pages, I just tried to make my contribution not to wage an editing war. you disregarded but attempt to explain to austronesier and adakiko that i am in no way here to offend anyone. I consider the sentence cruel compared to the error cordially. Zahamey (talk) 15:32, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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Request reason:

the reason for my blocking quote is the addition of writing as guimey bani koy responsible for the port while I had to quote the source of the information which is http://www.ankhonline.com/civilisations_africaines/civilisations_africaines_songhai.htm. my blocking was done based only on vague sources without taking into consideration others written with proven sources. I found the final decision to block me from wikipedia cruel in relation to the error of which I am accused

Decline reason:

You are blocked for not adding sources that verify everything you state in your edits. You need to acknowledge this failing, and commit to adding complete sources from now on. PhilKnight (talk) 18:34, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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Zahamey (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

I recognize my error and I promise to only write with verifiable source Zahamey (talk) 19:11, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I recognize my error and I promise to only write with verifiable source Zahamey (talk) 19:13, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I would want more than your promise; please given an example of a properly sourced edit you would make in a new request. 331dot (talk) 21:31, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I made a new request on my release following the request for own source of the admin 331. one of the examples is the military organization of the Zabarma Emirate whose source is: the vulture riders: the zerma conquests in the Gurunsi of jean rouch, page-16 .file:///storage/emulated/0/Android/media/com.transsion.phoenix/Pages%20hors%20ligne/Les%20cavaliers%20aux%20vautours.%20Les%20conqu%C3%AAtes%20zerma%20dans%20le%20Gurunsi%20(1856-1900)%20-%20Pers%C3%A9e.mht you can check it, I took the information concerning the organization that I ordered in a table. But sources still concerning the Zabarima Emirates is:Buluk bulsa history.https://buluk.de/new/?page_id=2376. the military organization of the Songhai empire has for Source the book: general history of Africa volume 4 - chapter 8 - page 213-236. res1314277_VOLUME-4.pdf., which deals with the Songhai empire. for those who speak of oral sources, the Sahelian peoples of Africa differ from other peoples of sub-Saharan Africa by their history which has been entirely transcribed in chronicles written by the contemporaries of these stories themselves natives of the region, the he history of the Songhai is part of the chronicles of Timbuktu such as the Tarikh al-Fattash and the Tarikh al sudan. the history of the emirate of Zabarma is entirely transcribed in the: asalin zabarmawa written by the secretary of the emir babatu, the book is currently kept in Berlin, you can carry out investigations there, we talk about it more in wikipedia Deutsche than in other Wikipedias. Zahamey (talk) 08:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Closing as stale, you may make a new request when you can respond to the comment below. 331dot (talk) 20:36, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Zahamey, thanks for providing some sources that you would like to use in the article. Before you are unblocked, I need to be convinced that you understand how to source content correctly on Wikipedia, and that what you are adding to an article is verified in the source that you cite. In an edit below, please pick an article that you would like to edit, and give an example of a short edit (one sentence will suffice) of something that you would add to the article. Ensure that you include the sourcing information (so that an editor can verify the information). Feel free to ping me if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2023 (UTC)