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Move Crystal Radio

Need help again. The article "Crystal radio receiver" is not right. It should be "Crystal radio" I created an article "Crystal radio" and redirected it to "Crystal radio receiver" but we really need to get the word "receiver" out of the title. I tried to move it but it will not over write. Can we delete "Crystal radio" and move it there? Ideas? Thanks, John

John 04:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi John. The page you need is called Wikipedia:Requested moves (shortcut - WP:RM). -- zzuuzz (talk) 10:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Lock Romero Page

How do I formally put a lock on the Oscar Romero page? It has been vandalized almost every day since Nov. 16. Thanks. Carlos.

Carlos_X 16:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Carlos X. The page you need is called Wikipedia:Requests for page protection (shortcut - WP:RPP). -- zzuuzz (talk) 18:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

EBSuite Help

Would you give me a chance to correct my page for EBSuite. I may have made mistakes since I copied the information provided by Netsuite. And thougth I needed to include product information and such. All we really wanted was to mark in history how a small set of former Oracle and Stanford engineers without the aid of large VC's have created a successful company with two offices around the world. May we have a chance to fix it? JC Prenner 30 November 2006:

Hi JC Prenner. EBSuite was speedy deleted for being a blatant advert. Articles which look like adverts are usually going to get deleted. The key policies relevant to this are NPOV, verifiability, and conflict of interest. Articles need to cite reliable independent sources to substantiate all the content. Please also see WP:CORP. -- zzuuzz (talk) 02:47, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Zzuuzz, I will correct.

I dont know why, but your name puts me to sleep

And so does Wikipedia, incidently—The preceding unsigned comment was added by JOoO (talkcontribs).


Gots that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JOoO (talkcontribs) 14:28, December 1, 2006 (UTC)

JOoO has been indefinatly blocked as a vandalism only account. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 22:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Format Radio Waves

What is not Wikified about the article Radio waves? Suggestions? Thanks (again). John 16:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi John. It doesn't look too bad to me. The picture has made a difference. It could still do with some references, and probably a See also section. Interesting that the articles for Radio Waves and Radio wave point to two other different articles. -- zzuuzz (talk) 03:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

Removal of Sprotect on Relient K article

It was about to be removed, I put it up for a couple of days cause we were getting some vandalism all of a sudden and were trying to fix the article. Thanks for removing it, I was going to do that tomorrow. Maybe I didn't do it right in protecting the page. Oh well. Thanks again.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DJREJECTED (talkcontribs).

No problem. The template on its own has no effect on its own except to deter legitimate editors, which is why I remove it whenever it has been incorrectly applied. Protection can only be applied by admins, usually via WP:RPP. -- zzuuzz (talk) 02:43, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Removal of Sprotect Tests on my pages

I was just testing how the Sprotect thing looks on my pages. If you looked in the history of my pages, it said "TEST - DO NOT REMOVE". I was going to remove it in awhile, but forgot about it. Thanks for removing it for me, but in the future, please see the history page before making changes on my pages. I would really appreciate it. Thank you. :) INFORMATION CENTER© talk contribs 03:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- zzuuzz (talk) 03:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

List of Internet slang phrases

Just Stopping by to say thanks. I noticed that you reverted unsourced edits a few times today and wanted to let you know that I appreciate it. That's a hard article to keep control of. Thanks again. --Onorem 00:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

You're not wrong there. It is apparently in the top three articles I have edited most on Wikipedia, so the thanks are returned :) -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


All the links I added that you keep removing are relevant to the audio book industry. I salute you efforts to police pages on wikipedia but I disagree with your thoughts that these links are not relevant. --freeb26 6:56, 3 January 2007 (EST)

Relevant to the audio book industry is not criteria for inclusion of an external link on Wikipedia, especially when it is one person spamming a link to their own site which falls foul of the external link guidelines. Stop spamming, thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 12:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I personally have policed and added links to relevant companies within the audio book industry. I cannot understand you persistent discrimination to commercial links. Some sites are clearly not relevant and your efforts to keep this page clean are good. The links I added are all relevant. Perhaps we need this to go to some form of arbitration. --freeb26 09:19, 3 January 2007 (EST)

Discrimination is an essential part of editing, and the criteria are very clearly spelled out at WP:EL. You are welcome to solicit other opinions on your insistence on inserting your link - how about we ask at WP:WPSPAM ? -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I will back off and leave you to be the good Samaritan you are. I am sure you have better things to do than argue with me. I do believe that the sites I place were relevant to this industry. I just think that commercial links are as relevant as any open source links. I mean the one link left is for dmoz which is so out of date. The link was one I have some interest in perhaps for that reason you would consider it spam but I feel the site has real value. I did add several others links that are relevant and leaders within the audio book industry. --freeb26 09:50, 3 January 2007 (EST)

Merge Blewit articles proposal

There's a discussion at Talk:Wood blewit on merging that article with Lepista saeva into a new article Blewit. If you have an opinion, please weigh in. Peter G Werner 20:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the redirect

D'oh! I should have realized I was pasting in the URL when I should be pasting in the Wikilink! Thanks for the help! Karen | Talk | contribs 23:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Zzuuzz. Thank you for that lovely barnstar! I really appreciate the recognition. Have a good 2007. Best Wishes, Signaturebrendel 04:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

About adding Links.....

hi buddy, if i want to add a link to a article....what is the benefit of adding it to the talk page...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Probuzz (talkcontribs).

Adding links to your own site, particularly to promote a SEO website, is not allowed on Wikipedia. This is explained at the external links guidelines. Additionally, and this has not been pointed out to you yet, linking to copyright violations from Google's AdSense blog is also not permitted. If a link to your website is a fantastic relevant compliant resource which has not been identified by independent editors yet, then it can be suggested on the talk page so that an independent editor can add it if the community thinks it is appropriate. This is to comply with the official NPOV policy. Wikipedia is not for self-promotion, and repeat spammers are blocked from editing all the time. SEOs in particular are likely to get their site completely blacklisted. -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Why the edits?

Hi, I posted some very relevant useful and unique information about Scott Storch ( and it keeps getting deleted. The link is not affiliated with me at all It seems that a good amount of relevant information and media is being deleted unnecessary. Can you help me?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fr0zen2k7 (talkcontribs).

Hi. Your link on the ringtones article was just a link to a commercial service provider. It was neither relevant or unique. Take a look at WP:EL to find out why it will always be removed. Your link to Scott Storch is to a forum post which also appears to contain photos posted in breach of copyright (again see previous link on both counts). Hope this clarifies. -- zzuuzz (talk) 01:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I did not post any ringtone articles...How can I look at what I posted? I'm on a pretty large network, so there might be others spamming, unfortunetly. I did post the Scott Storch article. The images are all from the members of the forum, the post is just joined. There are 2-3 that are not by the members, and they are watermarked.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fr0zen2k7 (talkcontribs).

The contributions are the ones associated with your your account, and your IP address. Please read the guideline. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 10:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)



I am not sure what you did but somehow you deleted the entire Clear rolling papers page :(

It's gone now and I haven't been able to locate it.

I just had to spend 15 minutes re-writing it entirely :(

--Mrtobacco 18:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi. It was nothing to do with me, though I did move it as I suggested. The article was deleted as a spamvertisement (CSD). It didn't appear that way to me, but like you, I no longer have access to the contents. You might want to double-check with the deleting admin. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I wrote my reply before you restored it, and if it's the same content, I can see that it doesn't seem to meet the speedy deletion criteria. {{Db-spam}} is a widely misused template - I will try and keep an eye out for any future speedy deletion tags on the article, as I will contest it, as should you. If you see one in time, place a {{hangon}} on the article. You can also complain (politely please) to the deleting admin. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
HELP - it was deleted again instantly. I can't see who's doing it so I can't help. Could you please restore it - I think one of the Aleda guys must be outright deleting it somehow? --Mrtobacco 23:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
See [1]. I don't know if someone is placing a speedy deletion tag on it or not, but the deleting admin is the person who makes the decision. -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Invite to WikiProject Spam

Hey there! I saw you reverting or removing linkspam. Thanks! If you're interested, come visit us in Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam so we can work together in our efforts to clean spam from Wikipedia. Hu12 04:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Hu12. The project page and other related pages are on my watchlist, and I am with you in spirit and practice, if not in signature or userbox. -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Blanked nipple

Hey I am sorry i hurt the website but all i was doing was telling the truth which apparently you all are afraid of admitting—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Soccer624 (talkcontribs).

Please learn more about Wikipedia. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 01:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


Hey, thanks so much for supporting my recent RFA. A number of editors considered that I wasn't ready for the mop yet and unfortunately the RFA did not succeed (69/26/11). There are a number of areas which I will be working on (including changing my username) in the next few months in order to allay the fears of those who opposed my election to administrator.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you sincerely for your support over the past week. I've been blown away by the level of interest taken in my RFA and appreciate the time and energy dedicated by all the editors who have contributed to it, support, oppose and neutral alike. I hope to bump into you again soon and look forward to serving you and Wikipedia in any way I can. Cheers! The Rambling Man 18:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC) (the non-admin, formerly known as Budgiekiller)


I requested semi-protection for the Ban (law) article. Hopefully that will stop the would be vandals. --Wildnox(talk) 05:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


The Jeweler link I added was not spam, if you check the link it was educational resources and from a valid domain.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Theory test site


I was adding my link because it is not spam and related, please see it and allow me add it.It is related to DSA theory test. Waiting for your reply.


Searcharge —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Searcharge (talkcontribs).

There didn't appear to be any relevant content available. Please read the external links guidelines. Thanks. -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: American TESOL Institute

An article that you have been involved in editing, American TESOL Institute, has been listed by me at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American TESOL Institute. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. --A. B. (talk) 02:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC) --A. B. (talk) 02:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Spice Girls

Melanie C co-written 11 UK number-one singles, see the singles information. Geri Halliwell co-written 10 number-one UK singles, not 11, because "It's Raining Man" isn't Geri's song. You should know this before editing articles. Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Northern intentions (talkcontribs).

Please read our policy on verifiability. The reference clearly says she has had 11 number one records, and no one has mentioned Geri anywhere. If you can produce a reference to support your point of view, please do so. -- zzuuzz (talk) 14:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Official Melanie C's website says that she's co-writer. See the biography section. Good luck :)


My bad. --Regards, Darkest Hour Talkcontribs 21:41, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem. If you don't mind though I'm going to revert, or at least change your edit. We don't want newbies going to the WP:AN with their questions. I like the border though, and the help desk addition is a good idea. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

User warnings have been updated

Heya, check out WP:UTM. The old ones are being deprecated. --Brad Beattie (talk) 01:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks I noticed that. The new ones seem to have some teething problems. -- zzuuzz(talk) 01:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Debt Consolidation

Hello I put up an informational site about debt consolidation. It was edited by an editor before you yet it was deleted. It had quite a few pages written by a copy writer about Debt Consolidation and many of its facets. I was wondering why you took it off because it wasn't promotional if it was it would be on with it's many ads. Can you please answer this? Thanks, Medie—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Medie (talkcontribs).

Unfortunately the site was nothing but a big solicitation for customers by a direct marketing company who deliver "Internet Marketing Solutions for businesses targeting consumers". Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not an advertising forum. For more information please see the external link guidelines. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 18:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Xtreme server

The relivant links and notability for the information was added to it, but unfortunatly ive not been able to add other information to it since my net was reduced to nothing. I could do with a little help on the article to what can be classed as proper information. --Zion 12:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately there was only a single link to the website, and no independent sources at all. Please check WP:WEB and provide the independent sources which verify the notability the guideline talks about. Please also check out what constitutes a reliable source. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 13:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Race and intelligence cascading protection

Hrm. The edit war over Race and intelligence includes edit wars over images and multiple subpages. Can you give me a list of templates you need unprotected? --Ryan Delaney talk 19:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

No problem, it was one of the cleanup templates, but it wasn't that important. The full protection seemed so widespread for such an edit war I wondered if there might have been an oversight. I will check what the policy pages are saying. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 22:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


It seems you started at the bottom of this and I started at the top. It was nice to meet you on the way down, I didn't fancy doing them all really. Cheers, CiaranG 23:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


9 items on one page and four blanks before that - I gave a level 4 warning - if youre still watching - I'll leave it to you to put to AIV SatuSuro 14:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Magnetic Detector Ref help

Please help me make the "Rutherford" footnote reference in this article in the History sub heading work. Thanks, John 20:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


Hi. I noticed your previous RfA and how close you were to passing (and you probably would've if you didn't withdraw). From the looks of it most of the oppose votes have been dealt with, so I was wondering if I could nominate you for adminship. I figured I would ask first to see if you were interested due to the withdrawal. Let me know if you wish for me to nominate you :). --Wizardman 15:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Wizardman. Mmkay, I will accept the nomination. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 15:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Alright then, give me a couple days to create the nom.--Wizardman 13:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Alright, here you go.

Thanks Wizardman. It will probably take me a day or two to post it. -- zzuuzz(talk) 16:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

BTW, any chance that you could expand your answer to Question 2? No big deal since it looks like you're going to pass anyway, but maybe that'll change their minds and cause you to pass unanimously.--Wizardman 19:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


Dear editor, please see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 February 6, where I nominated a redirect created by you for deletion. Your input is appreciated. Regards, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 15:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

"Space blocks" :P [continued...]

Hi; thanks for your explanation regarding the <pre></pre> elements at WP:HD. I hope you don't mind me asking here, but I've been trying to figure this out for some time now and haven't really made any progress. I'm hoping that you might have some ideas.

My reason for asking was to try and figure out the best way (i.e., requiring the least amount of "work") to post a few lines of code, while also formatting it as code, and indenting everything correctly. So far, the only way I found of doing this is to use a rather messy combination of <code>, <nowiki>, maybe <blockquote>, maybe <pre>, and <br /> tags—and having to repeat (open and close) most of them multiple times (for each line) to get the desired effect. This is only a problem when I want to show more than just one line of code, because I seemingly need to use <br /> at the end of each line to start a new line, which obviously doesn't work in between <nowiki> tags, which is why I have to open and close <nowiki> for each line...and round and round we go.

I'm not sure if this makes any sense. Basically, I'm asking whether you have any better way of displaying the 4 lines of code here like it currently does, without having to use a mess such as this (between the <!-- Ugh! --> and <!-- End Ugh! --> comments).

I'm sorry to bother you with something this trivial. —XhantarTalk 01:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Pre is short for pre-formatted, which means that any spaces and line breaks within the element are treated as such. On Wiki we can create a Pre element with a leading space, and subsequent spaces and line-breaks are treated as being contained within the Pre element.
this is just a leading space
 this is two leading spaces
 and a new line with two leading spaces
 this is some code
   which must be formatted...
     like this, just using leading spaces

Now, the problem you have with displaying wikicode is that you usually have to <nowiki> it which makes the leading space ineffective and the Pre element not appear. You get:

{{#if:{{{hunger<includeonly>|</includeonly>}}}| ! Hunger/Thirst {{!}} {{{hunger}}} }}

but if you include the whole thing in a <pre> tag, you get this:

! Hunger/Thirst
   token extra-indented line
{{!}} {{{hunger}}}

Take a look at the page source for details. Does this help? -- zzuuzz(talk) 02:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, of course! That seems so blatantly obvious—I feel like kicking myself! But that brings me back to my original problem.
If I now want to indent that whole <pre> block, and its contents,
so it left aligns nicely with the start of
this sentence...would that be possible? —XhantarTalk 09:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

mmm, I think you will need CSS:

from pre block
from margin
 and indented again

and then:

indented to match other indents
indented to match other indents

-- zzuuzz(talk) 10:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Aaah, gotcha. Thank you so much! Sorry for messing up your talk page; feel free to remove all this, if you wish. Thanks again! —XhantarTalk 15:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for de-vandalizing my user page. :) --lightspeedchick 02:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Indef-block I'm told :) -- zzuuzz(talk) 02:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

thanks for reverting the vandlisum on my page--♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 20:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)



In less than half-an-hour your RfA will pass with 98% support, which is a great achievement! A Bureaucrat will be along shortly to issue you with a shiny new set of admin tools. If you need any assistance with using them then please don't hesitate to ask and I will do my best to answer. Well done and happy mopping! (aeropagitica) 21:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks (aeropagitica), and thanks for your support. Fell free to comment on my use of the tools anytime. -- zzuuzz(talk) 21:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Ah, congratualations. I must have been asleep or something. Yeah, I have been told but I'm not sure if I can be bothered to change it. --Robdurbar 16:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

About the Licencing

  • Image:2003_Istanbul_Bombings_Levent.jpg→ I saw this image in nearly every Turkish newpaper and in many websites. This is some kind of an iconic picture and it depicts a disasrter than my nation suffered.
  • Image:Ismail_cem.jpg→ This is only a simple cv photo that Mr. Cem used for his career at Bilgi University.
  • Image:Nejdet_Sancar.gif→ He is the hero of the Türkçülük Davası and this image can be seen in every Turkish nationalist magazines and websites. I don't get the problem.
  • Image:Turgut_Ozal.jpg→ This is the political picture which Mr. Ozal used when he was the president. We have the same image in the Turkish Wikipedia too.
  • Image:Fahri_Korutürk.GIF→ Former president with the presidency seal. Since we use it properly, there is no problem to use it.
  • Image:Cevdet_Sunay.GIF→ Former president with the presidency seal. Since we use it properly, there is no problem to use it.
  • Image:Celal_Bayar.GIF→ Former president with the presidency seal. Since we use it properly, there is no problem to use it.
  • Image:Sivas_Districts.jpg→ A creation of a Turkish website dedicated to open the doors of my homeland, Sivas, to different people. It is some kind of an amateur website, nothing to do with crazy licencing. Pure humanity...
  • Image:Menderes_Time_Magazine.jpg→ I guess there is a special format for the Time Magazine covers. It can be changed.
  • Image:Gok_Medresesi.jpg→ Well known angle, well known beauty... This is a favorite way to take the pictures of the legendary Gök Mendesesi. I see this picture covering a wall in my university everyday.
  • Image:Menderes_Speech.jpg→ This picture is at least 40-50 years old. I found it in a biographical website. It is a simple photo which depicts the support that Menderes once had. I don't know the motives behind the image. It can be a political one or maybe it is about some newspaper.
  • Image:1453_conquest2.jpg→ A modern depiction of the famous Turkish story. Byzantine fleet manages to beat Ottoman forces so they can easily enter Constantinople to help its people. Mehmet got so angry and tries to fight next the his fleet... I have this image in different styles and colours.
  • Image:1453_conquest.jpg→ This is a popular artwork by a western artist. I got many different versions of this art. Some of them were made by Turks and Muslims. Actually it is not a unique pattern.
  • Image:4murat.jpg→ We have this image of the English Wikipedia but it wasn't depicting the full size of the painting so I uploaded this one. I have this on my room's wall. It is artist possibly died hundreds of years a go and modern artist producing copies of it constantly.
  • Image:Fevzicakmak.JPG→ Popular photo of
  • Image:Avni_Lifij-Fevzi_Cakmak.jpg→ He was a talented artist who died 80 years a go. This picture can be seen in some schools, museums and in websites. Funny think is that General looks interestingly like Stalin in this picture ;) Still, this is a good depiction of a key figure in our independence struggle.
  • Image:EmperorSuleiman.jpg→ I have got a book which uses this image as its cover but there is no mention about any copyright. I think it is also very old and belongs to the Turkish heritage more than its creator.
Here I give some extra data about the images you mentioned. Look at their standings and help me to organize or, if it is really necessary, to delete them. See you, Deliogul 21:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Your RfA

I am pleased to let you know that, consensus reached, you are now an Administrator. You should find the following forums useful:

Congratulations on your promotion and the best of luck with your new charge! Redux 03:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful RfA!--Wikipedier (talk contribs) 04:20, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


Would you please comment on deletion debate of The Physical Society of Iran? Thanks. Sangak 17:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Helpme Reply

Thanks!How do you become an administrator? And could you reply on my talk page?JakeTheBlake 19:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Help zzuuzz

Hi zzuuzz - I recieved this message when I added to the affiliate marketing page. The article is from my webpage and is my own work. I didn't want to reference myself, just add content. What is the best way to denote the articles are of my own writings without looking like I'm self promoting or spamming? As you can see I'm pretty new at this! Thanks for all your help!!! Matt Bacak, The Powerful Promoter User: Mbacak 19:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Affiliate marketing We appreciate your contributions to the Affiliate marketing article, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. For this reason your edits have been reverted or removed. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the information in your own words. If you do, please remember to cite your source(s). For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 18:10, 22 February 2007 (UTC) Retrieved from ""

Hi Mbacak. The first requirement is that you indicate on the website that you license the text under the GFDL or an equivalent licence, so that others are allowed to modify it and use it for any purpose. But that is just part of it. The other issue is that the text is not encyclopaedic in tone. Phrases such as "if you’ve been on the Internet today" are not used in encyclopaedia (that is, the second person). It also makes recommendations, which are inappropriate ("As an affiliate manager, you want a system that..."). Wikipedia articles adhere to a neutral point of view. You can find more info at Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles. -- zzuuzz(talk) 19:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
See also MCB's comments on the article's talk page. -- zzuuzz(talk) 20:29, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Please check something...

Could you please check this out. Something seems fishy.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:47, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

A big thanks

Thank you so much, I promise, I will never do that again, is it ok if I remove the templates though, they may impede my reputation on wikipedia (more so). 1B6 13:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Loughborough Endowed Schools


The issue has now been resolved; could you possibly have a look at the discussion on User talk:Bubba hotep, and if you agree, remove the warning on my user page? Many thanks Tom s252 20:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


[Regarding the Kingdom of Great Britain,] 3RR does not apply when the other party is vandalising the page. AVD's edits are the consistent enforcement of a POV upon the article without discussion, despite warnings that he is in breach of WP:NPOV, hence fall into the category of vandalism per WP:VAND: "Though inappropriate, [POV editing] is not vandalism in itself unless persisted in after being warned."

Furthermore, I had established a RfC, against the wishes of the other participant in the dispute, before you warned me, so consider your decision to do so somewhat illogical and offensive to my position as a long-standing and dedicated Wikipedian. Bastin 15:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I take your point, however this is turning into a disruptive edit war. There is an exception to 3RR for obvious vandalism - ""Obvious vandalism" doesn't just mean obvious to you or obvious to editors of the page who are familiar with the subject matter; it means obvious to anyone looking at the last edit." There is clearly a legitimate dispute whether it is well-founded or not. -- zzuuzz(talk) 15:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

DCG Web Services

We at DCG Web Services are a fully-qualified provider of FREE(no-ads) Web-based Email services in the Philippines and by placing an ad I was only attempting to get some recognition. Can I place a link on Web-based Email? Thanks DCG Web Services —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Wikipedia is not a place for advertising, or a place to gain recognition, especially for "affordable web design solutions". Please read the external link guidelines. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 18:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Did you even visit the site to either confirm or deny what you are saying? -- Thanks dcg web services

Of course. I even quoted from it, but I will quote more - "a full service professional affordable Philippines web design company with internet marketing services. We are locally owned and operated in the Philippines and all of our work is done in-house. Our prices and services are simply UNBEATABLE! Free SEO included!!!". Did you even read the external links guidelines? -- zzuuzz(talk) 18:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, we do have a commercial aspect of our business as well as a non-commercial one. As does Yahoo, Google, MSN, etc. Would placing a link in Web-based email directly to the Sign-Up form be more appropriate? Dcgwebservices 18:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I really think you should read the guidelines. This is not the place to solicit any business. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 18:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you sir, this issue is resolved however my site is providing a public service as well as a commercial one. Dcgwebservices 18:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


Thank you for blacklisting the stuff. I was just about to scream for help. I don't know if it is possible, but is it possible to check if User:Bibliofil, User:JoJo35, User:Samrio2, User:Lokitoki, etc. are all the same guy? Or do spammers tend to use unsecured open proxies, negating the possibility of tying together sockpuppets via IP? —RP88 15:56, 26 February 2007 (UTC)


thanks for keep baning that loser I would have given him a warning but by the time I got it you baned him (god your fast) If he cant edit sailor moon pages or mine or masamage and his comments get reverted in seconds he will dissapere because he will try to get attention from somwere elece (hopefully well away from wikipedia)♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 21:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Haileybury, Melbourne


You've motioned for this before, but I've finally gone and done it. The 'Senior School Leadership' section on this article was a list of unverifiable, non-notable names subject to constant vandalism, so I removed it. Your feedback is welcome on the talk page. :) --gummAY 07:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

World History timelines

Zzuzz, following your advice of a few months ago I have today put into the discussion page of List of timelines an account of a large new Wikipedia-linked timeline that I have put online. I don't imagine anyone is very likely to see it on that particular page, and more relevant might be some of the discussion pages for specific history articles. We have also put online a lot of precisely focused timelines linking to Wikipedia (menu at Single-Subject Timelines)that I feel Wikipedians would find useful. Every one of these timelines shares a title with an article in Wikipedia. So advice welcome please on putting similar notes in the discussion pages of those articles.

In relation to the commercial aspect, these timelines will not carry ads. Bamber Gascoigne 11:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

This IP that just got blocked just tried to put an unblocked template on his page saying it was granted. Creative vandal I'll give them that. Anyway I'd see about getting it increased for something like this. --Xiahou 01:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I saw that, quite funny really. Let's see what he does when he returns. -- zzuuzz(talk) 01:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Aevum Obscurum

Why have you reverted back to the old, out of date wikipage of Aevum Obscurum? I am a member and admin of the game and have been making the edits for Chris (The maker of the game). Please revert the page back to the latest version. -=[Я0ADK!LL]=- 10:50, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The text was a copyright violation, not to mention quite unencyclopaedic - "So, will your place be in the history books or in the mud?". Please re-write it in your own words. Thanks. -- zzuuzz(talk) 11:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)